Allen West Delivers Epic Speech On GOP's Proud History Fighting For Black Equality...

[NYcarbineer]

What's better than seeing people who now support the idea of secession trying to portray themselves as the party of Lincoln.

 

[NYcarbineer]

If this were 1862, Ron Paul would be a Confederate colonel.

 

[paulitician]

White Liberals pretending to be Black or know what's best for Blacks, sure are pathetically hilarious. There's a lot of those kooks on this very Board. They don't know shit about being Black, yet they pretend they do. They really do believe they should be the judges on who's a 'Good' African American and who's a 'Bad' African American. They're so arrogant and pompous. White Liberals really are the dumbest people in this country, but they are entertaining.

 

[ClosedCaption]

White Liberals pretending to be Black or know what's best for Blacks, sure are pathetically hilarious. There's a lot of those kooks on this very Board. They don't know shit about being Black, yet they pretend they do. They really do believe they should be the judges on who's a 'Good' African American and who's a 'Bad' African American. They're so arrogant and pompous. White Liberals really are the dumbest people in this country, but they are entertaining.

Nice Strawman

PS. I'm black

 

[paulitician]

White Liberals pretending to be Black or know what's best for Blacks, sure are pathetically hilarious. There's a lot of those kooks on this very Board. They don't know shit about being Black, yet they pretend they do. They really do believe they should be the judges on who's a 'Good' African American and who's a 'Bad' African American. They're so arrogant and pompous. White Liberals really are the dumbest people in this country, but they are entertaining.

Nice Strawman

PS. I'm black

Well, bully for you. Why did you reply? I wasn't referring to you obviously.

 

[MeBelle]

Actually what you just proved is that numbers CAN be skewed.

No, it did not get more GOP votes

The original House version:[13]
Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%-39%)
Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)
Cloture in the Senate:[14]
Democratic Party: 44-23 (66%–34%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%–18%)
The Senate version:[13]
Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%–31%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%–18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:[13]
Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%–37%)
Republican Party: 136-35 (80%–20%)
Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You're kidding, right? Your own citation proves you wrong.

Each version of the bill got a higher percentage of GOP "yes" votes than Democrat "yes" votes.

No I'm not kidding. Maybe you need to learn some basic math, like the fact that higher percentage doesn't always mean higher number. If you look at the CRA purely from a Democratic Republican perspective, which is silly because it wasn't split on that grounds, then yes the Republicans voted for it at a higher percentage. But if you look at it from a regional perspective, which is logical because the split was regional, then the Democrats voted for it at a higher percentage.

The original House version:
Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7%–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0%–100%)
Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%–15%)

The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5%–95%)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0%–100%)
Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%–2%)
Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%–16%)

Only 7% of southern Democrats in the House and 5% of southern Democrats in the Senate voted yes. On the southern Republican side it was even worse at 0% in both chambers. Not one single yes vote by southern Republicans

On the northern side the numbers are 94% and 98% on the Democratic side and 85% and 84% on the Republican side

One final note on the numbers, because I'm always amazed, shocked even, when cons claim that the 1964 Civil Rights act was divided by party and not by region. I don't know how accurate these numbers are because the House has more members and I got them by adding the four numbers and then dividing by four but it has to be pretty close I would say, plus the difference is so vast that there's lots of room for error.
3% of the south voted yes. 90% of the north voted yes

 

[paulitician]

Repetitive over-the-top 'Racism' accusations always come from the same ole sources...Dumb White Liberals and racist African American Democrats. So next time you hear that stale shite, just consider the source and have a good laugh.

 

[Mustang]

If this were 1862, Ron Paul would be a Confederate colonel.

...and he wouldn't deny authorship of his old newsletters.

 

[ClosedCaption]

White Liberals pretending to be Black or know what's best for Blacks, sure are pathetically hilarious. There's a lot of those kooks on this very Board. They don't know shit about being Black, yet they pretend they do. They really do believe they should be the judges on who's a 'Good' African American and who's a 'Bad' African American. They're so arrogant and pompous. White Liberals really are the dumbest people in this country, but they are entertaining.

Nice Strawman

PS. I'm black

Well, bully for you. Why did you reply? I wasn't referring to you obviously.

You werent referring to anyone specifically Because a strawman has no race.

 

[paulitician]

Nice Strawman

PS. I'm black

Well, bully for you. Why did you reply? I wasn't referring to you obviously.

You werent referring to anyone specifically Because a strawman has no race.

Yes i was. I was referring to dumb White Liberals who think they should be the judges on who's a 'Good' African American and who's a 'Bad' African American. Now, i'm not sure if you're an average racist African American Democrat yet. But keep posting, and i'll give you my assessment on you.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Well, bully for you. Why did you reply? I wasn't referring to you obviously.

You werent referring to anyone specifically Because a strawman has no race.

Yes i was. I was referring to dumb White Liberals who think they should be the judges on who's a 'Good' African American and who's a 'Bad' African American. Now, i'm not sure if you're an average racist African American Democrat yet. But keep posting, and i'll give you my assessment on you.

Guess, I should be on my toes..not. Racism means thinking one races is inferior to another. What racist black dems are you referring too?

 

[Pheonixops]

So true.

The republican party changed and continues to change, consider too their constant criticism of Affirmative action after 300 years of discrimination. If there is any thing that gives you a clear idea of which party supports all people of all colors etc etc, it is the party they vote for. The stats give a lie to West's cherry picking of history.

Affirmative Action is racist I can understand some favoritism based on economic circumstances but based on Race is racists

It's an interesting thing about modern day Republicans. It seems like the only time they really see racism is when they think white people are the victims of it.

It sure does seem that way for some of them.

 

[Pheonixops]

What's better than seeing people who now support the idea of secession trying to portray themselves as the party of Lincoln.

Excellent points. This is courtesy of Who:

 

[mmmjvpssm]

Actually what you just proved is that numbers CAN be skewed.

You're kidding, right? Your own citation proves you wrong.

Each version of the bill got a higher percentage of GOP "yes" votes than Democrat "yes" votes.

No I'm not kidding. Maybe you need to learn some basic math, like the fact that higher percentage doesn't always mean higher number. If you look at the CRA purely from a Democratic Republican perspective, which is silly because it wasn't split on that grounds, then yes the Republicans voted for it at a higher percentage. But if you look at it from a regional perspective, which is logical because the split was regional, then the Democrats voted for it at a higher percentage.

The original House version:
Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7%–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0%–100%)
Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%–15%)

The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5%–95%)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0%–100%)
Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%–2%)
Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%–16%)

Only 7% of southern Democrats in the House and 5% of southern Democrats in the Senate voted yes. On the southern Republican side it was even worse at 0% in both chambers. Not one single yes vote by southern Republicans

On the northern side the numbers are 94% and 98% on the Democratic side and 85% and 84% on the Republican side

One final note on the numbers, because I'm always amazed, shocked even, when cons claim that the 1964 Civil Rights act was divided by party and not by region. I don't know how accurate these numbers are because the House has more members and I got them by adding the four numbers and then dividing by four but it has to be pretty close I would say, plus the difference is so vast that there's lots of room for error.
3% of the south voted yes. 90% of the north voted yes

Then why don't you explain how exactly they've been "skewed"

 

[ABikerSailor]

White Liberals pretending to be Black or know what's best for Blacks, sure are pathetically hilarious. There's a lot of those kooks on this very Board. They don't know shit about being Black, yet they pretend they do. They really do believe they should be the judges on who's a 'Good' African American and who's a 'Bad' African American. They're so arrogant and pompous. White Liberals really are the dumbest people in this country, but they are entertaining.

Yeah............almost as stupid as a bunch of religious white men thinking they know about women's health issues.

 

[rightwinger]

White Liberals pretending to be Black or know what's best for Blacks, sure are pathetically hilarious. There's a lot of those kooks on this very Board. They don't know shit about being Black, yet they pretend they do. They really do believe they should be the judges on who's a 'Good' African American and who's a 'Bad' African American. They're so arrogant and pompous. White Liberals really are the dumbest people in this country, but they are entertaining.

Yeah............almost as stupid as a bunch of religious white men thinking they know about women's health issues.

Like the great Earl Butz once said..


You no playa da game......you no maka da rules

 

[francoHFW]

A lot of those Pubs only voted for it when it was obviously going to pass and they switched the day of the vote. This was when the two parties were switching sides, as far as which party the racists were in- see Nixon's "Southern strategy"...

 

[Unkotare]

White Liberals pretending to be Black or know what's best for Blacks, sure are pathetically hilarious. There's a lot of those kooks on this very Board. They don't know shit about being Black, yet they pretend they do. They really do believe they should be the judges on who's a 'Good' African American and who's a 'Bad' African American. They're so arrogant and pompous. White Liberals really are the dumbest people in this country, but they are entertaining.

Yeah............almost as stupid as a bunch of religious white men thinking they know about women's health issues.

There are more male than female OB/GYNs. Do you think they know something about women's health issues?

Of course the issue you are really alluding to is a moral one, understanding of which (like the medical one) is not gender-dependent any more than it is necessarily related to any particular religious beliefs.

 

[Unkotare]

A lot of those Pubs...

A lot of those 'what'? What the hell are you talking about? Do you ever intend to try and grow up and communicate like a big boy?

 

[Pheonixops]

Awwwwww! Isn't that wonderful! Did he venture into today's republican party? Did he venture into this:
"Bob Herbert, a New York Times columnist, reported a 1981 interview with Lee Atwater, published in Southern Politics in the 1990s by Alexander P. Lamis, in which Lee Atwater discussed politics in the South:
Lee Atwater

You start out in 1954 by saying, "******, ******, ******." By 1968 you can't say "******"—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites.[35]

And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "******, ******". "


"Some Republicans gave up on winning the African-American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization," Mehlman said at the annual convention of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. "I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong."


"During his remarks he also acknowledged that for decades the GOP pursued "'Southern Strategy' that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote in the South."

Steele was asked to explain why an African-American should vote Republican at a university-sponsored discussion on the conservative movement. The RNC chairman's response: "You really don't have a reason to, to be honest -- we haven't done a very good job of really giving you one. True? True."

Steele also discussed with students his own experience being the victim of racial discrimination -- a subject that the he has openly addressed in the past. Steele told TV One's Roland Martin in November that even some of his fellow Republicans are "scared" of him because of his race. "

Or did tom just gloss over the REALITY and ACCURATE account of the modern GOP?

Well?