I respect Ms. Bush for coming out in support of people who want to love and belong, and not hate and divide.
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I did not say she doesn't have a computer or an email. I said she doesn't waste her time on one, emailing and chatting up strangers.
thats not what you posted earlier.....you said YOU dont allow her to E-Mail FRIENDS....here your saying SHE doesnt E-Mail STRANGERS......you have just turned the whole tone of this conversation....from a strict Domineering Dad to a not so Domineering one....now most of what was said before may be moot....
Liberalism has Jack to do with it....if you dont let a 16 year old breath a little bit.....your going to suffocate her.....and then when she is on her own and finds out that those "Boundaries" that Daddy erected for her safety are now not there.....well lets just say that one possibility is what Artie was suggesting.....when you said this........I do not base adult decisions on what she thinks or feels, however.I care about her feelings and what she thinks. When asked, she is entitled to share her opinion. I do not base adult decisions on what she thinks or feels, however.
And one is not entitled to everything they want. Isn't that funny how you can teach them through action at an early age?
If you think that makes her unhappy, you would be wrong. People like boundaries and structure. It provides a sense of safety.
If it makes you feel better to think that she hates me because of my rigidity, or doesn't love me as much as the liberal parent down the street, please feel free. You would be wrong.
.....thats telling me that your final decision will be what you want not what she wants.....and a 16 year old is kinda old for YOU to be telling her what she wants or thinks.....she is no longer an 8 year old....im beginning to think that is she going to Med School because she wants too...or is this what you want?...
RW continues to prove that he a complete and utter moron.
The Cheneys also support gay marriage.
Cell phone is communication. I would not want to hire anyone, including a teenager, that did not have the trust of her parents to be responsible in using one.
Same with e-mails and a computer.
Not judging what a parent believes is appropriate if you do not trust a 16 year old to use a computer and cell phone then how can you trust them to work any place other than behind closed doors at home?
I wonder how teenagers got a job before cell phones existed.
By the way, how would you know if they have a cell phone or not? Do you only hire teens that walk into the interview talking on the phone or testing? If so, my guess is you get very few repeat customers.
SCOTUS disagrees with you, which is why laws against bigamy are constitutional.
So you say it's only a states rights issue?
I can get behind that. I've been a firm believer in states rights for a long time.
You don't like the laws here, move there.
No, I am saying that SCOTUS has already said that marriage is a constitutional issue, and states, and the federal government, have the power, and a compelling interest, in defining it any way they want. They also pointed out that the law has long defined marriage as being between one man and one woman, dating all the way back to the days of King James. That is why DOMA, among other laws, is constitutional.
I did not say she doesn't have a computer or an email. I said she doesn't waste her time on one, emailing and chatting up strangers.
thats not what you posted earlier.....you said YOU dont allow her to E-Mail FRIENDS....here your saying SHE doesnt E-Mail STRANGERS......you have just turned the whole tone of this conversation....from a strict Domineering Dad to a not so Domineering one....now most of what was said before may be moot....
She doesn't email anyone other than for school business (such as teachers), academic club participants, and family, on very rare occasion. Hope I cleared that up, as if it mattered.
She doesn't email anyone other than for school business (such as teachers), academic club participants, and family, on very rare occasion. Hope I cleared that up, as if it mattered.
Cell phone is communication. I would not want to hire anyone, including a teenager, that did not have the trust of her parents to be responsible in using one.
Same with e-mails and a computer.
Not judging what a parent believes is appropriate if you do not trust a 16 year old to use a computer and cell phone then how can you trust them to work any place other than behind closed doors at home?
I wonder how teenagers got a job before cell phones existed.
By the way, how would you know if they have a cell phone or not? Do you only hire teens that walk into the interview talking on the phone or testing? If so, my guess is you get very few repeat customers.
She doesn't email anyone other than for school business (such as teachers), academic club participants, and family, on very rare occasion. Hope I cleared that up, as if it mattered.
sure it matters.....you said one thing and then far into the conversation your story changed...
Quote: Originally Posted by Provocateur View Post
I did not say she doesn't have a computer or an email. I said she doesn't waste her time on one, emailing and chatting up strangers.
thats not what you posted earlier.....you said YOU dont allow her to E-Mail FRIENDS....here your saying SHE doesnt E-Mail STRANGERS......you have just turned the whole tone of this conversation....from a strict Domineering Dad to a not so Domineering one....now most of what was said before may be moot....
You are lying now, Prov. You changed the characteristic of your statement. Now you are deliberately falsifying. Admit it. Stop it. Let's get back on track.
this is typical for jokey, he reads something and doesnt actually understand what he read, then carries on and on about how he owned you and dances around never actually answering ANY question you ask himYou are lying now, Prov. You changed the characteristic of your statement. Now you are deliberately falsifying. Admit it. Stop it. Let's get back on track.
If you say so.
Apparently you will read a sentence to fit some agenda you have. Have fun with that. I feel zero need to hold your hand through reading comprehension. Perhaps you have a friend that can help walk you through my posts and see that NADA changed in my discussion.
I'm done discussing this with you. I have actually bored myself, so i can imagine how others must feel at this point.
this is typical for jokey, he reads something and doesnt actually understand what he read, then carries on and on about how he owned you and dances around never actually answering ANY question you ask himYou are lying now, Prov. You changed the characteristic of your statement. Now you are deliberately falsifying. Admit it. Stop it. Let's get back on track.
If you say so.
Apparently you will read a sentence to fit some agenda you have. Have fun with that. I feel zero need to hold your hand through reading comprehension. Perhaps you have a friend that can help walk you through my posts and see that NADA changed in my discussion.
I'm done discussing this with you. I have actually bored myself, so i can imagine how others must feel at this point.
he makes claims about you, with not a tittle of proof and then claims "everyone" can see he is right
you just keep proving me correct in calling you jokeythis is typical for jokey, he reads something and doesnt actually understand what he read, then carries on and on about how he owned you and dances around never actually answering ANY question you ask himIf you say so.
Apparently you will read a sentence to fit some agenda you have. Have fun with that. I feel zero need to hold your hand through reading comprehension. Perhaps you have a friend that can help walk you through my posts and see that NADA changed in my discussion.
I'm done discussing this with you. I have actually bored myself, so i can imagine how others must feel at this point.
he makes claims about you, with not a tittle of proof and then claims "everyone" can see he is right
divecon is bubbling again.
Go back and read the original statement and defenses. I correctly challenged them and demonstrated they were false comparisons. The original statements and defenses were biased and poorly supported..
For those of you who don't understand critical thinking skills: drop a note to Dr. Newt Gingrich, the historian, about whether this is a liberal or a conservative or a martian only principle. I am sure he will be glad to help you out.
this is typical for jokey, he reads something and doesnt actually understand what he read, then carries on and on about how he owned you and dances around never actually answering ANY question you ask himYou are lying now, Prov. You changed the characteristic of your statement. Now you are deliberately falsifying. Admit it. Stop it. Let's get back on track.
If you say so.
Apparently you will read a sentence to fit some agenda you have. Have fun with that. I feel zero need to hold your hand through reading comprehension. Perhaps you have a friend that can help walk you through my posts and see that NADA changed in my discussion.
I'm done discussing this with you. I have actually bored myself, so i can imagine how others must feel at this point.
he makes claims about you, with not a tittle of proof and then claims "everyone" can see he is right
this is typical for jokey, he reads something and doesnt actually understand what he read, then carries on and on about how he owned you and dances around never actually answering ANY question you ask himIf you say so.
Apparently you will read a sentence to fit some agenda you have. Have fun with that. I feel zero need to hold your hand through reading comprehension. Perhaps you have a friend that can help walk you through my posts and see that NADA changed in my discussion.
I'm done discussing this with you. I have actually bored myself, so i can imagine how others must feel at this point.
he makes claims about you, with not a tittle of proof and then claims "everyone" can see he is right
divecon is bubbling again.
Go back and read the original statement and defenses. I correctly challenged them and demonstrated they were false comparisons. The original statements and defenses were biased and poorly supported..
For those of you who don't understand critical thinking skills: drop a note to Dr. Newt Gingrich, the historian, about whether this is a liberal or a conservative or a martian only principle. I am sure he will be glad to help you out.