Bob Woodward: Obama Lying about Sequester

[Procrustes Stretched]

Let's repeat this in case some missed it:

According to Bob Woodard:

The story Obama and the Democratic leadership in Congress is feeding to the media:

“There was an insistence on the part of Republicans in Congress for there to be some automatic trigger,” Lew said while campaigning in Florida. It “was very much rooted in the Republican congressional insistence that there be an automatic measure.”. . . .

The truth:

. . . .The president and Lew had this wrong. My extensive reporting for my book “The Price of Politics” shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of Lew and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors — probably the foremost experts on budget issues in the senior ranks of the federal government.

Obama personally approved of the plan for Lew and Nabors to propose the sequester to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). They did so at 2:30 p.m. July 27, 2011, according to interviews with two senior White House aides who were directly involved. . . .
Bob Woodward: Obama?s sequester deal-changer - The Washington Post

Kudos to WAPO for running this piece. Maybe, just maybe, the worm is starting to turn and some of the media sources are returning to competent journalism? Honest research? Reporting the whole story instead of just the part that makes somebody look good? Or bad?

But you see precious little of this kind of research and honest reporting in most of the mainstream media.

So Obama suggests something and the GOP just goes along?

The GOP led US House passed the bill:

The bill was the final chance in a series of proposals to resolve the 2011 United States debt-ceiling crisis, which featured bitter divisions between the parties and also pronounced splits within them. Earlier ideas included the Obama-Boehner $4 trillion "Grand Bargain",[13] the House Republican Cut, Cap and Balance Act, and the McConnell-Reid "Plan B" fallback. All eventually failed to gain enough general political or specific Congressional support to move into law, as the midnight August 2, 2011, deadline for an unprecedented U.S. sovereign default drew nearer and nearer.

...

The House passed the Budget Control Act[1] on August 1, 2011 by a vote of 269–161. 174 Republicans and 95 Democrats voted for it, while 66 Republicans and 95 Democrats voted against it.

The Senate passed the Act on August 2, 2011 by a vote of 74–26. 6 Democrats and 19 Republicans voted against it

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Presidential signature

President Obama signed the bill shortly after it was passed by the Senate. In doing so, the president said, "Is this the deal I would have preferred? No. But this compromise does make a serious down payment on the deficit reduction we need, and gives each party a strong incentive to get a balanced plan done before the end of the year."

Budget Control Act of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Foxfyre]

How does any of that discredit anything Woodward said? The quoted paragraphs were not dealing with the vote or who did or did not agree to it. The quoted paragraphs dealt with who came up with and pushed the idea. Obama and the Democrats are trying to blame that on the GOP. If you can show that Woodward is wrong in his research, go for it.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

How does any of that discredit anything Woodward said? The quoted paragraphs were not dealing with the vote or who did or did not agree to it. The quoted paragraphs dealt with who came up with and pushed the idea. Obama and the Democrats are trying to blame that on the GOP. If you can show that Woodward is wrong in his research, go for it.

Obama pushed Obamacare too.

US House of Representatives: David Dreier (R) California -
No Co-Sponsors

H.R.2693: Budget Control Act of 2011 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress

The Budget Control Act of 2011 (Pub.L. 112–25, S. 365, 125 Stat. 240, enacted August 2, 2011) is a federal statute in the United States that was signed into law by President Barack Obama on August 2, 2011. - Who controlled the US House?

 

[Foxfyre]

How does any of that discredit anything Woodward said? The quoted paragraphs were not dealing with the vote or who did or did not agree to it. The quoted paragraphs dealt with who came up with and pushed the idea. Obama and the Democrats are trying to blame that on the GOP. If you can show that Woodward is wrong in his research, go for it.

Obama pushed Obamacare too.

US House of Representatives: David Dreier (R) California -
No Co-Sponsors

H.R.2693: Budget Control Act of 2011 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress

The Budget Control Act of 2011 (Pub.L. 112–25, S. 365, 125 Stat. 240, enacted August 2, 2011) is a federal statute in the United States that was signed into law by President Barack Obama on August 2, 2011. - Who controlled the US House?

Your point? Did you read what you linked?

H.R.2693
Latest Title: Budget Control Act of 2011
Sponsor: Rep Dreier, David [CA-26] (introduced 7/28/2011) Cosponsors (None)
Related Bills: H.R.2482, H.R.2835, S.1522
Latest Major Action: 7/30/2011 Failed of passage/not agreed to in House. Status: On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill, as amended Failed by recorded vote (2/3 required): 173 - 246 (Roll no. 682).
Latest Action: 8/1/2011 Referred to the Subcommittee on Communications and Technology.
Bill Summary & Status - 112th Congress (2011 - 2012) - H.R.2693 - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

 

[Trajan]

In another thread, someone posited that Bohner originated the sequester concept.
Pretty sure there was a link provided.

here ya go- and if there is a link I'd like to see it, if you could direct me to it Ouwld appreciate it, thx.

snip-


The White House chief of staff at the time, Jack Lew, who had been budget director during the negotiations that set up the sequester in 2011, backed up the president two days later.

“There was an insistence on the part of Republicans in Congress for there to be some automatic trigger,” Lew said while campaigning in Florida. It “was very much rooted in the Republican congressional insistence that there be an automatic measure.”

The president and Lew had this wrong. My extensive reporting for my book “The Price of Politics” shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of Lew and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors — probably the foremost experts on budget issues in the senior ranks of the federal government.

Obama personally approved of the plan for Lew and Nabors to propose the sequester to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). They did so at 2:30 p.m. July 27, 2011, according to interviews with two senior White House aides who were directly involved.

Nabors has told others that they checked with the president before going to see Reid. A mandatory sequester was the only action-forcing mechanism they could devise. Nabors has said, “We didn’t actually think it would be that hard to convince them” — Reid and the Republicans — to adopt the sequester. “It really was the only thing we had. There was not a lot of other options left on the table.”

A majority of Republicans did vote for the Budget Control Act that summer, which included the sequester. Key Republican staffers said they didn’t even initially know what a sequester was — because the concept stemmed from the budget wars of the 1980s, when they were not in government.

At the Feb. 13 Senate Finance Committee hearing on Lew’s nomination to become Treasury secretary, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) asked Lew about the account in my book: “Woodward credits you with originating the plan for sequestration. Was he right or wrong?”

“It’s a little more complicated than that,” Lew responded, “and even in his account, it was a little more complicated than that. We were in a negotiation where the failure would have meant the default of the government of the United States.”

“Did you make the suggestion?” Burr asked.

“Well, what I did was said that with all other options closed, we needed to look for an option where we could agree on how to resolve our differences. And we went back to the 1984 plan that Senator [Phil] Gramm and Senator [Warren] Rudman worked on and said that that would be a basis for having a consequence that would be so unacceptable to everyone that we would be able to get action.”

In other words, yes.

But then Burr asked about the president’s statement during the presidential debate, that the Republicans originated it.

Lew, being a good lawyer and a loyal presidential adviser, then shifted to denial mode: “Senator, the demand for an enforcement mechanism was not something that the administration was pushing at that moment.”

Bob Woodward: Obama?s sequester deal-changer - The Washington Post

 

[Trajan]

Let's repeat this in case some missed it:

According to Bob Woodard:

The story Obama and the Democratic leadership in Congress is feeding to the media:

“There was an insistence on the part of Republicans in Congress for there to be some automatic trigger,” Lew said while campaigning in Florida. It “was very much rooted in the Republican congressional insistence that there be an automatic measure.”. . . .

The truth:

. . . .The president and Lew had this wrong. My extensive reporting for my book “The Price of Politics” shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of Lew and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors — probably the foremost experts on budget issues in the senior ranks of the federal government.

Obama personally approved of the plan for Lew and Nabors to propose the sequester to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). They did so at 2:30 p.m. July 27, 2011, according to interviews with two senior White House aides who were directly involved. . . .
Bob Woodward: Obama?s sequester deal-changer - The Washington Post

Kudos to WAPO for running this piece. Maybe, just maybe, the worm is starting to turn and some of the media sources are returning to competent journalism? Honest research? Reporting the whole story instead of just the part that makes somebody look good? Or bad?

But you see precious little of this kind of research and honest reporting in most of the mainstream media.

So Obama suggests something and the GOP just goes along?

The GOP led US House passed the bill:

The bill was the final chance in a series of proposals to resolve the 2011 United States debt-ceiling crisis, which featured bitter divisions between the parties and also pronounced splits within them. Earlier ideas included the Obama-Boehner $4 trillion "Grand Bargain",[13] the House Republican Cut, Cap and Balance Act, and the McConnell-Reid "Plan B" fallback. All eventually failed to gain enough general political or specific Congressional support to move into law, as the midnight August 2, 2011, deadline for an unprecedented U.S. sovereign default drew nearer and nearer.

...

The House passed the Budget Control Act[1] on August 1, 2011 by a vote of 269–161. 174 Republicans and 95 Democrats voted for it, while 66 Republicans and 95 Democrats voted against it.

The Senate passed the Act on August 2, 2011 by a vote of 74–26. 6 Democrats and 19 Republicans voted against it

---

Presidential signature

President Obama signed the bill shortly after it was passed by the Senate. In doing so, the president said, "Is this the deal I would have preferred? No. But this compromise does make a serious down payment on the deficit reduction we need, and gives each party a strong incentive to get a balanced plan done before the end of the year."

Budget Control Act of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

sure they voted for it, and why is this even a question? and they are going thru with it.....whos trying to snake their way out?



the left wanted defense cut, it has been cut under gates and panetta, and will be even further. you shhould be happy.


obama got 650Bn in revenue as in the tax iincreaes, its his turn to fill in the remaining $1.8 Trillion in spending cuts, the 3-1 formula ala Simpson bowles...so, wheres the cuts dante?right now we are stuck at 85 Bn with the sequester this year( 850 bn over the 10 year window), and obama doesn't even want to do that.....

 

[westwall]

How does any of that discredit anything Woodward said? The quoted paragraphs were not dealing with the vote or who did or did not agree to it. The quoted paragraphs dealt with who came up with and pushed the idea. Obama and the Democrats are trying to blame that on the GOP. If you can show that Woodward is wrong in his research, go for it.

Obama pushed Obamacare too.

US House of Representatives: David Dreier (R) California -
No Co-Sponsors

H.R.2693: Budget Control Act of 2011 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress

The Budget Control Act of 2011 (Pub.L. 112–25, S. 365, 125 Stat. 240, enacted August 2, 2011) is a federal statute in the United States that was signed into law by President Barack Obama on August 2, 2011. - Who controlled the US House?

Your point? Did you read what you linked?

H.R.2693
Latest Title: Budget Control Act of 2011
Sponsor: Rep Dreier, David [CA-26] (introduced 7/28/2011) Cosponsors (None)
Related Bills: H.R.2482, H.R.2835, S.1522
Latest Major Action: 7/30/2011 Failed of passage/not agreed to in House. Status: On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill, as amended Failed by recorded vote (2/3 required): 173 - 246 (Roll no. 682).
Latest Action: 8/1/2011 Referred to the Subcommittee on Communications and Technology.
Bill Summary & Status - 112th Congress (2011 - 2012) - H.R.2693 - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

I don't think he did...

 

[Charles_Main]

"“There was an insistence on the part of Republicans in Congress for there to be some automatic trigger,” Lew said while campaigning in Florida. It “was very much rooted in the Republican congressional insistence that there be an automatic measure.”

The president and Lew had this wrong. My extensive reporting for my book “The Price of Politics” shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of Lew and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors — probably the foremost experts on budget issues in the senior ranks of the federal government."

Bob Woodward: Obama?s sequester deal-changer - The Washington Post

How will Liberals continue to believe his lies?

Bob Woodward is a right wing radical, Gun touting, Gay hating, Racist, Homophobic, Islamobashing ingrate who should be taken to a re-education camp.

 

[Paulie]

"“There was an insistence on the part of Republicans in Congress for there to be some automatic trigger,” Lew said while campaigning in Florida. It “was very much rooted in the Republican congressional insistence that there be an automatic measure.”

The president and Lew had this wrong. My extensive reporting for my book “The Price of Politics” shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of Lew and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors — probably the foremost experts on budget issues in the senior ranks of the federal government."

Bob Woodward: Obama?s sequester deal-changer - The Washington Post

How will Liberals continue to believe his lies?

Do you not want spending to be cut?

 

[Stephanie]

Obama is just doing what he normally does, lies lies lies

and his sheep cheer and clap and then spreads his lies

 

[Charles_Main]

Obama is just doing what he normally does, lies lies lies

and his sheep cheer and clap and then spreads his lies

The sad thing is most of them truly do not think they are lies. They are so blindly faithful to their party, and Ideology that they simply can not see the lies for what they are.

 

[SFC Ollie]

And they don't mention that the Military has already absorbed most if not all the cuts. They have increase Tricare fees, Are taking Tricare Prime away from thousands of Retirees, they are laying off 800,000, and they have done multiple other things like cutting complete airshows and flyovers for special ceremonies. I just got an E-mail yesterday informing me that the Airbase cannot approve my flyover request for Memorial Day this year....

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Yeah but will this get any mention outside FOX ?