Charles Martel The Hammer

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I was wondering, during the era of DEI, would a statue of Charles Martel erected in France be considered racist and xenophobic and torn down? Maybe you don’t know who Charles Martel was—he was a Frankish warlord who drove the Muslims out of France and saved Western Europe for Christianity. He was a brilliant military leader, but he was an individual of his time—very brutal, very vicious, and very successful. If someone wanted to erect a statue of him in a Muslim neighborhood as a statement of 'This is France,' would you consider it objectionable? There are already several statues of him across France.

I'm being transparent with you other posters—I’m letting you all know what I’m up to. I’m not trying to bait anyone; I just want to gauge how well you all understand history.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Erect statues of him anywhere in
France

 

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Sometimes I agree with the left, and sometimes I agree with the right. However, when it comes to history, it seems to me that conservatives have a better understanding of it—whether or not they've ever heard of the term 'zeitgeist.' I don't know how common this opinion is among the left, but I recall an individual once suggesting that the Washington Monument should be renamed for someone more deserving than a slave owner, that Washington's image should be removed from the $1 bill, and that Washington, D.C., should be renamed. The problem is that individuals like this often have a poor understanding of history. They might know historical facts and dates, but they fail to grasp the mindset of the times, which is crucial to understanding the lessons of history.

 

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“ Charles Martel was—he was a Frankish warlord who drove the Muslims out of France and saved Western Europe for Christianity”

Damn. Long overdue for a statue.

 

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“ Charles Martel was—he was a Frankish warlord who drove the Muslims out of France and saved Western Europe for Christianity”

Damn. Long overdue for a statue.

It's a French decision. What do you think? Does he deserve one in every city?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

That's up to the French.

 

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It's a French decision. What do you think? Does he deserve one in every city?

Every city in France. Heck. Every city in Europe.

In fact, we should put a few up in America, too.

 

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Every city in France. Heck. Every city in Europe.

In fact, we should put a few up in America, too.

Every city in France. Heck. Every city in Europe.

In fact, we should put a few up in America, too.

I think you're right. If one stops and considers it, Charles Martel did not only save the Frankish Kingdom (France) and Western Europe but also the Western world. If not for his courage, skill, and abilities, we might be Muslim today, and we would not have the religious tolerance that we now enjoy. So, you're right—we should have statues of him in our country as well, even in Dearborn, Michigan, to demonstrate to the Islamic residents there that they are now part of the Western world, where religious tolerance is expected.


The Battle of Tours (also called the Battle of Poitiers) took place on October 10, 732 and was a pivotal moment in European history. It was fought between the Frankish forces, led by Charles Martel, and the Umayyad Caliphate, led by Abd al-Rahman al-Ghafiqi.


Key Aspects of the Battle

• Tactics Used: Charles Martel relied on his heavy infantry, forming a strong defensive position against the Umayyad cavalry. His troops maintained their formation, resisting repeated cavalry charges.
• Outcome: The Franks emerged victorious, and Abd al-Rahman was killed in battle. The Umayyad forces retreated, marking the end of their expansion into Western Europe.

Consequences of the Battle

• Stopped Muslim Expansion: The victory halted the northward advance of the Umayyads into Europe, preventing further incursions beyond Spain.
• Strengthened Frankish Power: Charles Martel’s success solidified his control over the Frankish kingdom, paving the way for the rise of the Carolingian Empire.
• Shaped European History: Many historians view the battle as a defining moment that preserved Christian dominance in Western Europe.