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Incorrect. Before DADT, you were asked DIRECTLY whether or not you were gay and if you answered yes, you were kicked out or not allowed to join. So, yes, DADT was brought about to allow gays to serve as long as they kept their sexuality to themselves.Get someone who isn't a clueless bigoted prick to explain it to you. Just because you say something is so, doesn't make it so. Go fuck yourself, asshole.
After you calm down, you might want to recheck your premise. DADT was brought into being to give Gay's a break.
No it wasn't. It was brought in because gays were being harrassed by straight bigots. How is forcing gays into anonymity and firing them for exposing their sexuality beneficial to anybody? State-sponsored discrimination is all that it was. And now it's gone. All of the crying from the bigoted right won't bring it back.
?You obviously have no idea how a modern military is run. You are EXPECTED to question irrational commands no matter how high the rank is that gave them to you.
That is 100% incorrect...
You have an AF symbol so I will assume that you are speaking from an AF perspective where questioning orders is tolerated to an extent but that is reserved for the technical fields in the AF. Go work with the army - you NEVER question an order no matter how screwy it sound. The answer that an army individual will give if you ask why you are doing something is usually "because we were ordered to." Usually, army members do not even understand why they are ordered to do what they are doing. Now, the ONLY order that you are ever expected to question (are required really) is an illegal order and usually those are not all that grey. Combat operations do not work when you have every ground soldier asking why for every order that they don't understand.
This is the part that most people missed. There are extremely few 'investigations' or costly trials to remove suspected gay individuals from the military. Usually, a person outs themselves when they are getting kicked out anyway and they are removed on that because it is far simpler. We had one such case in my own shop. They had been trying to kick the member out for months but it is a costly and long process. One day, he outed himself and then they were able to fast track his discharge on that basis. We all knew he was gay long before that but no one actually peruses that and one reason is that DATD did not allow you to peruse it.Still, most of the guys and gals discharged under DADT were people who outed themselves, when they figured out the military was the cool thing their recruiters told them it was. This was probably the case before DADT, which was my experience, that if you did your job and didn't cause trouble, no one cared what you did off duty.