Delta Wye

[Grumblenuts]

Tesla (Nikola, that is) simply had a beautiful mind. He intrinsically understood electricity and showed how we could all put it to practical use like no other. But he lacked the patience to illustrate the roots well enough for even other geniuses to equally understand. More showman / engineer / scientist than teacher.

Eric Dollard is just the opposite. He never tires of explaining and trying to explain better in detail. In this very recent video he appears to pinpoint what has gone awry with our power transmission systems (grid) and why (wye?). We'll always feed grid power to urban districts. It makes no sense not to. Long distances shall continue requiring high voltage AC conversion and transmission lines which drastically reduce costs by using relatively thin wires with strategically placed transformers.

Eric shows that we need to stop now and rethink some of what we've been doing.. because we messed up some details early on and we're not doing ourselves any favors by neglecting the resultant errors any longer. Oh, and don't sweat the versor algebra

Eric Dollard discusses Versor algebra part 3 and/or fortescue part 2 - Eric P. Dollard - Official Homepage

This video is from a visit to EPD Laboratories, Inc. down in Nevada early October 2020. Eric Dollard is discussing the material coming together for Versor Algebra 3, which is related to his upcoming presentation on Fortescue, which would be part 2 coming to the 2021 Energy Science & Technology...

ericpdollard.com

 

[toobfreak]

Tesla (Nikola, that is) simply had a beautiful mind. He intrinsically understood electricity and showed how we could all put it to practical use like no other. But he lacked the patience to illustrate the roots well enough for even other geniuses to equally understand. More showman / engineer / scientist than teacher.

Eric Dollard is just the opposite. He never tires of explaining and trying to explain better in detail. In this very recent video he appears to pinpoint what has gone awry with our power transmission systems (grid) and why (wye?). We'll always feed grid power to urban districts. It makes no sense not to. Long distances shall continue requiring high voltage AC conversion and transmission lines which drastically reduce costs by using relatively thin wires with strategically placed transformers.

Eric shows that we need to stop now and rethink some of what we've been doing.. because we messed up some details early on and we're not doing ourselves any favors by neglecting the resultant errors any longer. Oh, and don't sweat the versor algebra

Eric Dollard discusses Versor algebra part 3 and/or fortescue part 2 - Eric P. Dollard - Official Homepage

This video is from a visit to EPD Laboratories, Inc. down in Nevada early October 2020. Eric Dollard is discussing the material coming together for Versor Algebra 3, which is related to his upcoming presentation on Fortescue, which would be part 2 coming to the 2021 Energy Science & Technology...

ericpdollard.com

Aren't we just talking basic motor and x-former design here? HV-AC is cheaper because it minimizes LOSSES. There are minimal losses in HV-AC because there is minimal HEATING due to the fact that you are really moving PRESSURE through the lines rather than CURRENT FLOW.

Where there is minimal electron flow, there is minimal internal impedance to drop voltage across.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Aren't we just talking basic motor and x-former design here? HV-AC is cheaper because it minimizes LOSSES. There are minimal losses in HV-AC because there is minimal HEATING due to the fact that you are really moving PRESSURE through the lines rather than CURRENT FLOW.

Where there is minimal electron flow, there is minimal internal impedance to drop voltage across.

If so, what difference does the "AC" make? Why not just use "HV" DC and forget motors? That's how Edison thought.

While electromotive "PRESSURE" does develop, there is never "CURRENT FLOW" "through the lines" since electrons aren't real. That's not how it works. Electricity flows along or between "conductors" i.e. through the "insulator" or "dielectric" material outside. Coaxial cable works by maximizing the actual conductivity of the dielectric. The inner plastic layer in this case. There's obviously no "conductor" evident within a vacuum tube or fluorescent bulb. Where's the supposed "current" of electrons in a wave guide? We were taught silliness. Gotta try to forget that crap and start fresh.

Reality is not just quantum bullshit flitting in and out of some zero point energy field. It involves constant exchange between the magnetic (the tangible) and the dielectric (the "imaginary" or counterspace). Both are equally real despite the "imaginary" numbers seemingly required to describe reality in counterspace. I always just picture crystal bismuth (undeniably real) to help visualize counterspace.

 

[mamooth]

Tesla (Nikola, that is) simply had a beautiful mind. He intrinsically understood electricity and showed how we could all put it to practical use like no other.

Tesla was a stellar engineer, and most electrical motors are still based on what he designed. He failed badly at some of the physics. The big example there is his "broadcast energy through the ground! Free energy for everyone!" system, which wouldn't have worked in any form. That doesn't stop conspiracy theorists from claiming that TheMan is suppressing that technology.

 

[Grumblenuts]

The big example there is his "broadcast energy through the ground! Free energy for everyone!" system, which wouldn't have worked in any form. That doesn't stop conspiracy theorists from claiming that TheMan is suppressing that technology.

Of course it would have worked, did, and still does. It just creates other problems, the first and foremost being that it can't be metered making no billing possible. That's why Westinghouse ("TheMan" most definitely) pulled the plug as soon as Tesla made that very clear to him. Beyond that, the electric "noise" generated would critically interfere with current forms of electronics and communication.. ironically, as do the shortcuts being commonly applied to our grid infrastructure today. In any case, major adjustments would have been required to make that (seemingly "free") model work with our current uses of electricity. Then again, it likely would have enabled us to do far more much faster and at much less environmental cost.

Developing induced alternating current motors and generators practically from scratch in his mind was only the beginning. He was so far beyond that (so far ahead of us even now) that there was nowhere left for him to turn mentally without first being able to demonstrate his Wardenclyffe Tower technology.

 

[ProfessorHawthorne]

I'm not so sure his wireless method would be a very good environment to live in. The intense EM fields generated would have been at a minimum bad for health and possibly life-threatening. And kudos for the reference to "quantum bullshit". I couldn't agree more.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Tesla has an undeserved cult following.

 

[mamooth]

Of course it would have worked, did, and still does.

No, it doesn't. Not at all. If you pump electricity into the ground, it just goes into the ground and vanishes. If you pump it into the air, you just get some electrical arcs.

And if you want to fall back on EM waves ... nope. Tesla flat out stated that radio waves do not exist.

He was all about "earth resonance". You see, if you pump electricity into the ground at just the right frequency, you tap the planet's electrical energy, which will manifest as standing waves that anyone can drill down and tap into ... and that's pure pseudoscience mumbo-jumbo. Wardenclyffe Tower never worked at all.

Celebrate Tesla as an awesome engineer, but a sucky physicist.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Tesla flat out stated that radio waves do not exist.

Did he? Quote? Link?

He was all about "earth resonance". You see, if you pump electricity into the ground at just the right frequency, you tap the planet's electrical energy, which will manifest as standing waves that anyone can drill down and tap into ... and that's pure pseudoscience mumbo-jumbo.

I see you've bought into popular establishment smear. You're a smart guy and I've greatly appreciated many of your posts so I have no desire to just blow you off. Faict, Tesla never believed in nor advocated for getting something from nothing. He was always about maximizing efficiency,.. like using resonance (high Q) circuitry (air gapped coils), sudden interruption (spark gaps), and cheap (air gapped) capacitance. Inspired by Tesla, Eric Dollard has replicated many of Tesla's designs and built Earth resonant systems that detect earthquakes well in advance among other things.

The following shows who understood radio first:

Marconi is said to have read, while on vacation in 1894, about the experiments that Hertz did in the 1880s. Marconi also read about Tesla's work.[101] It was at this time that Marconi began to understand that radio waves could be used for wireless communications.

Marconi understood and invented squat compared to Tesla. Scroll down to the timeline provided at the bottom..
"Tesla demonstrates his wireless power techniques at St. Louis, Mo."
years prior to..
"Marconi sends wireless signals to Salisbury Plain to Bath, a distance of 34 miles (55km)."

Tesla's ideas for a World Wireless system grew out of experiments beginning in the early 1890s after learning of Hertz's ... radio waves making skywave communication of shortwave frequency bands possible over long distances.

"a sucky physicist" LOL
Truth is physics has yet to catch up with Tesla, mainly because Einstein grabbed center stage and proceeded to confuse himself with nonsense for far too long.

 

[toobfreak]

Tesla flat out stated that radio waves do not exist.

Did he? Quote? Link?

He was all about "earth resonance". You see, if you pump electricity into the ground at just the right frequency, you tap the planet's electrical energy, which will manifest as standing waves that anyone can drill down and tap into ... and that's pure pseudoscience mumbo-jumbo.

I see you've bought into popular establishment smear. You're a smart guy and I've greatly appreciated many of your posts so I have no desire to just blow you off. Faict, Tesla never believed in nor advocated for getting something from nothing. He was always about maximizing efficiency,.. like using resonance (high Q) circuitry (air gapped coils), sudden interruption (spark gaps), and cheap (air gapped) capacitance. Inspired by Tesla, Eric Dollard has replicated many of Tesla's designs and built Earth resonant systems that detect earthquakes well in advance among other things.

The following shows who understood radio first:

Marconi is said to have read, while on vacation in 1894, about the experiments that Hertz did in the 1880s. Marconi also read about Tesla's work.[101] It was at this time that Marconi began to understand that radio waves could be used for wireless communications.

Marconi understood and invented squat compared to Tesla. Scroll down to the timeline provided at the bottom..
"Tesla demonstrates his wireless power techniques at St. Louis, Mo."
years prior to..
"Marconi sends wireless signals to Salisbury Plain to Bath, a distance of 34 miles (55km)."

Tesla's ideas for a World Wireless system grew out of experiments beginning in the early 1890s after learning of Hertz's ... radio waves making skywave communication of shortwave frequency bands possible over long distances.

"a sucky physicist" LOL
Truth is physics has yet to catch up with Tesla, mainly because Einstein grabbed center stage and proceeded to confuse himself with nonsense for far too long.

Tesla invented the radio, not Marconi, and I believe the patent went back and forth a couple times. Tesla had a radio-controlled/operated boat long before Marconi, that interestingly, the military saw no use for.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Tesla was a stellar engineer, and most electrical motors are still based on what he designed. He failed badly at some of the physics. The big example there is his "broadcast energy through the ground! Free energy for everyone!" system, which wouldn't have worked in any form. That doesn't stop conspiracy theorists from claiming that TheMan is suppressing that technology.

A few more thoughts.. IIRC, they even had to beg Tesla to get the first transatlantic cable to work right. Wires: Corded telephones used(still use?) four. Telegraphy (along railways, for example) was a one wire system, meaning the current had no choice but to flow back through the ground.. i.e. "broadcast energy through the ground!" only cheap, not quite "Free." For "radio" we just use an antenna to broadcast over a specific region through the atmosphere and back through the ground. Thus "wireless" between antenna and receiver. The antenna signal can be fed by just one, two, or multiple wires, nonetheless a good ground is always required. Tesla understood all that before anyone else.

As far as "TheMan" goes, aside from George Westinghouse prematurely shutting Tesla down in his prime as previously mentioned, here's some other great examples of deliberate profiteering by TheMen shutting down better / cheaper technologies beginning around the same time and continuing to the present.

 

[mamooth]

A few more thoughts.. IIRC, they even had to beg Tesla to get the first transatlantic cable to work right.

Say what? The first transatlantic cable was laid 1858. Tesla was born in 1856. Quite the precocious toddler he was, apparently.

Wires: Corded telephones used(still use?) four. Telegraphy (along railways, for example) was a one wire system, meaning the current had no choice but to flow back through the ground.

Using earth as ground predates Tesla by at least 50 years.

i.e. "broadcast energy through the ground!" only cheap, not quite "Free."

"Not functional at all" isn't "free". If you broadcast througn the air or through the ground in all directions, the inverse square law applies to power density, making it impossible to get any significant power to anyone at a distance.

 

[Grumblenuts]

A few more thoughts.. IIRC, they even had to beg Tesla to get the first transatlantic cable to work right.

Say what? The first transatlantic cable was laid 1858. Tesla was born in 1856. Quite the precocious toddler he was, apparently.

Laid? Cyrus Field went broke and they only finished laying it across the Atlantic in July of 1866. I said "to get the first transatlantic cable to work right." Marconi isn't even credited with sending the first "cable" across until 1902. Haven't found my source (yet), but (again iirc) it said Tesla's help was crucial to getting Morse's dits and dahs across quickly. Tesla did recommend a very different transmission method than Marconi which was soon ignored by all the moneyed interests. Watch this super nerdy old video from Eric about 100 times to develop some small bit of understanding. Warning, forgetting all that nonsense you've been taught about electricity shall be required.

i.e. "broadcast energy through the ground!" only cheap, not quite "Free."

"Not functional at all" isn't "free". If you broadcast througn the air or through the ground in all directions, the inverse square law applies to power density, making it impossible to get any significant power to anyone at a distance.

Talk is cheap for sure. True, the type of radial broadcasting we still rely upon for "free" reception of through the air TV and radio transmissions consumes tons more energy than a pure Tesla design would ever use. Never said otherwise.