Equity is not equality .

[John T. Ford]

Besides the obvious fact that you can't achieve equity without stealing from someone...

... it appears that none of them even bought a ticket to watch that game.

Which is exactly what Marxism is in theory ....

But, that's never how it really worls out is it?

According to Acts 4:35, it's exactly what Christianity is in theory.

Christianity is about free will.

A government forcing you to do things is NOT free will.

Then why did they put that in the Bible? Is Christianity about religious government forcing you to do things?

No, it is not. They never put government forcing folks to do things against their will in the bible. They had voluntarily come to that accord. You take that passage out of context. Further up, Acts 4: 32.

"And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common."

Most Christians have no problem with Mutual Societies. In fact, you will hear them advertised as an alternative to Health Insurance on conservative radio stations. Making a profit off of health care is pretty evil to a lot of conservative Christians.

Health care sharing ministry - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

There is nothing at all wrong with socialism, as long as it is not forced. Voluntary Socialism is the very root of Christian charity.

Christians have nothing against Energy Co-ops, Food Co-ops, Credit Unions, Mutual aid societies, etc.

It is when there is coercion, which is a form of violence? THAT is what is anti-Christian.

A lot of folks don't know this about the history of Socialism, but it was, actually, invented in America, (the idea from Robert Owen in England though,) NOT Europe. Marx stole the idea from the Native Americans and Owenism.

At one time, the left and the right got along well. Lysander Spooner and Josiah Warren were friends, and I believe acquainted with Owen, who for whatever reason, established his social experiments in the New World.

Marx would have been. . . what? Seven years old when this occurred? What a neophyte, Statist, Marx always was.

Only in America, do Americans know how to balance the rights of the individual, with the community. We have for a long time, and we learned it from the natives. Those silly, silly Eurotrash commies don't have a clue.

Owenism and New Harmony​

"In 1825, Warren became aware of the "social system" of Robert Owen and began to talk with others in Cincinnati about founding a communist colony.[8] When this group failed to come to agreement about the form and goals of their proposed community, Warren "sold his factory after only two years of operation, packed up his young family, and took his place as one of 900 or so Owenites who had decided to become part of the founding population of New Harmony, Indiana."[2] The Cincinnati colony was attempted without Warren's involvement, but failed.[9] Warren traveled by flat-boat from Cincinnati, arriving in New Harmony in early May, 1825. By 1827, he had returned to Cincinnati, convinced that the complete individualization of interests was necessary to cooperation. He considered Owen's experiment "communism," which he rejected in no uncertain terms, but he developed a warm and lasting respect for Robert Owen and his sons. One of his earliest writings, published in The March of Mind in 1827, attests to this, as do later writings.[10]"

Josiah Warren - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Wow ...

What an incredible humble example of throwing pearls to swine.

Hat's off to you there.

I do it, not necessarily for Bulldog.

I know he hates me.

But for the love of our community, and for visitors who might happen to come by.

So many today do not really understand the basic facts about these words and ideas we throw around, or about our heritage as Americans.

USMB does have a pretty high Alexa search ranking for some things. . . so. . you never know.

(We certainly can't depend on our schools or our media to give an accurate picture of the past or of the reality of our world. . . )

I pray your pearls are fruitful .......

 

[BULLDOG]

Besides the obvious fact that you can't achieve equity without stealing from someone...

... it appears that none of them even bought a ticket to watch that game.

Which is exactly what Marxism is in theory ....

But, that's never how it really worls out is it?

According to Acts 4:35, it's exactly what Christianity is in theory.

Christianity is about free will.

A government forcing you to do things is NOT free will.

Then why did they put that in the Bible? Is Christianity about religious government forcing you to do things?

No, it is not. They never put government forcing folks to do things against their will in the bible. They had voluntarily come to that accord. You take that passage out of context. Further up, Acts 4: 32.

"And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common."

Most Christians have no problem with Mutual Societies. In fact, you will hear them advertised as an alternative to Health Insurance on conservative radio stations. Making a profit off of health care is pretty evil to a lot of conservative Christians.

Health care sharing ministry - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

There is nothing at all wrong with socialism, as long as it is not forced. Voluntary Socialism is the very root of Christian charity.

Christians have nothing against Energy Co-ops, Food Co-ops, Credit Unions, Mutual aid societies, etc.

It is when there is coercion, which is a form of violence? THAT is what is anti-Christian.

A lot of folks don't know this about the history of Socialism, but it was, actually, invented in America, (the idea from Robert Owen in England though,) NOT Europe. Marx stole the idea from the Native Americans and Owenism.

At one time, the left and the right got along well. Lysander Spooner and Josiah Warren were friends, and I believe acquainted with Owen, who for whatever reason, established his social experiments in the New World.

Marx would have been. . . what? Seven years old when this occurred? What a neophyte, Statist, Marx always was.

Only in America, do Americans know how to balance the rights of the individual, with the community. We have for a long time, and we learned it from the natives. Those silly, silly Eurotrash commies don't have a clue.

Owenism and New Harmony​

"In 1825, Warren became aware of the "social system" of Robert Owen and began to talk with others in Cincinnati about founding a communist colony.[8] When this group failed to come to agreement about the form and goals of their proposed community, Warren "sold his factory after only two years of operation, packed up his young family, and took his place as one of 900 or so Owenites who had decided to become part of the founding population of New Harmony, Indiana."[2] The Cincinnati colony was attempted without Warren's involvement, but failed.[9] Warren traveled by flat-boat from Cincinnati, arriving in New Harmony in early May, 1825. By 1827, he had returned to Cincinnati, convinced that the complete individualization of interests was necessary to cooperation. He considered Owen's experiment "communism," which he rejected in no uncertain terms, but he developed a warm and lasting respect for Robert Owen and his sons. One of his earliest writings, published in The March of Mind in 1827, attests to this, as do later writings.[10]"

Josiah Warren - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If America knows how to balance the rights of the individual with the community, why haven't we done that? Did you know that in the 1960s a woman couldn't get a credit card without her husband cosigning for it? Or that women were excluded from juries? No need to go into separate schools or places to eat for the different races. Only a few years ago, it was legal to fire someone if they were gay. Today, a black person is more likely to be sentenced to a much longer sentence than a white person FOR THE SAME CRIME. Tell me more about how the US is uniquely able to balance the rights of individuals with the rights of society.

 

[BULLDOG]

Besides the obvious fact that you can't achieve equity without stealing from someone...

... it appears that none of them even bought a ticket to watch that game.

Which is exactly what Marxism is in theory ....

But, that's never how it really worls out is it?

According to Acts 4:35, it's exactly what Christianity is in theory.

Christianity is about free will.

A government forcing you to do things is NOT free will.

Then why did they put that in the Bible? Is Christianity about religious government forcing you to do things?

No, it is not. They never put government forcing folks to do things against their will in the bible. They had voluntarily come to that accord. You take that passage out of context. Further up, Acts 4: 32.

"And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common."

Most Christians have no problem with Mutual Societies. In fact, you will hear them advertised as an alternative to Health Insurance on conservative radio stations. Making a profit off of health care is pretty evil to a lot of conservative Christians.

Health care sharing ministry - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

There is nothing at all wrong with socialism, as long as it is not forced. Voluntary Socialism is the very root of Christian charity.

Christians have nothing against Energy Co-ops, Food Co-ops, Credit Unions, Mutual aid societies, etc.

It is when there is coercion, which is a form of violence? THAT is what is anti-Christian.

A lot of folks don't know this about the history of Socialism, but it was, actually, invented in America, (the idea from Robert Owen in England though,) NOT Europe. Marx stole the idea from the Native Americans and Owenism.

At one time, the left and the right got along well. Lysander Spooner and Josiah Warren were friends, and I believe acquainted with Owen, who for whatever reason, established his social experiments in the New World.

Marx would have been. . . what? Seven years old when this occurred? What a neophyte, Statist, Marx always was.

Only in America, do Americans know how to balance the rights of the individual, with the community. We have for a long time, and we learned it from the natives. Those silly, silly Eurotrash commies don't have a clue.

Owenism and New Harmony​

"In 1825, Warren became aware of the "social system" of Robert Owen and began to talk with others in Cincinnati about founding a communist colony.[8] When this group failed to come to agreement about the form and goals of their proposed community, Warren "sold his factory after only two years of operation, packed up his young family, and took his place as one of 900 or so Owenites who had decided to become part of the founding population of New Harmony, Indiana."[2] The Cincinnati colony was attempted without Warren's involvement, but failed.[9] Warren traveled by flat-boat from Cincinnati, arriving in New Harmony in early May, 1825. By 1827, he had returned to Cincinnati, convinced that the complete individualization of interests was necessary to cooperation. He considered Owen's experiment "communism," which he rejected in no uncertain terms, but he developed a warm and lasting respect for Robert Owen and his sons. One of his earliest writings, published in The March of Mind in 1827, attests to this, as do later writings.[10]"

Josiah Warren - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Wow ...

What an incredible humble example of throwing pearls to swine.

Hat's off to you there.

You might want to double check some of those pearls. They turn out to be just little balls of bullshit.

 

[BULLDOG]

Besides the obvious fact that you can't achieve equity without stealing from someone...

... it appears that none of them even bought a ticket to watch that game.

Which is exactly what Marxism is in theory ....

But, that's never how it really worls out is it?

According to Acts 4:35, it's exactly what Christianity is in theory.

Christianity is about free will.

A government forcing you to do things is NOT free will.

Then why did they put that in the Bible? Is Christianity about religious government forcing you to do things?

No, it is not. They never put government forcing folks to do things against their will in the bible. They had voluntarily come to that accord. You take that passage out of context. Further up, Acts 4: 32.

"And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common."

Most Christians have no problem with Mutual Societies. In fact, you will hear them advertised as an alternative to Health Insurance on conservative radio stations. Making a profit off of health care is pretty evil to a lot of conservative Christians.

Health care sharing ministry - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

There is nothing at all wrong with socialism, as long as it is not forced. Voluntary Socialism is the very root of Christian charity.

Christians have nothing against Energy Co-ops, Food Co-ops, Credit Unions, Mutual aid societies, etc.

It is when there is coercion, which is a form of violence? THAT is what is anti-Christian.

A lot of folks don't know this about the history of Socialism, but it was, actually, invented in America, (the idea from Robert Owen in England though,) NOT Europe. Marx stole the idea from the Native Americans and Owenism.

At one time, the left and the right got along well. Lysander Spooner and Josiah Warren were friends, and I believe acquainted with Owen, who for whatever reason, established his social experiments in the New World.

Marx would have been. . . what? Seven years old when this occurred? What a neophyte, Statist, Marx always was.

Only in America, do Americans know how to balance the rights of the individual, with the community. We have for a long time, and we learned it from the natives. Those silly, silly Eurotrash commies don't have a clue.

Owenism and New Harmony​

"In 1825, Warren became aware of the "social system" of Robert Owen and began to talk with others in Cincinnati about founding a communist colony.[8] When this group failed to come to agreement about the form and goals of their proposed community, Warren "sold his factory after only two years of operation, packed up his young family, and took his place as one of 900 or so Owenites who had decided to become part of the founding population of New Harmony, Indiana."[2] The Cincinnati colony was attempted without Warren's involvement, but failed.[9] Warren traveled by flat-boat from Cincinnati, arriving in New Harmony in early May, 1825. By 1827, he had returned to Cincinnati, convinced that the complete individualization of interests was necessary to cooperation. He considered Owen's experiment "communism," which he rejected in no uncertain terms, but he developed a warm and lasting respect for Robert Owen and his sons. One of his earliest writings, published in The March of Mind in 1827, attests to this, as do later writings.[10]"

Josiah Warren - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Wow ...

What an incredible humble example of throwing pearls to swine.

Hat's off to you there.

I do it, not necessarily for Bulldog.

I know he hates me.

But for the love of our community, and for visitors who might happen to come by.

So many today do not really understand the basic facts about these words and ideas we throw around, or about our heritage as Americans.

USMB does have a pretty high Alexa search ranking for some things. . . so. . you never know.

(We certainly can't depend on our schools or our media to give an accurate picture of the past or of the reality of our world. . . )

What a load of shit. Do you hate our government as much as the other RWNJs here do? Do you whine about the so called DEEP STATE or complain that our education system is a communist indoctrination center?

 

[fncceo]

Did you know that in the 1960s a woman couldn't get a credit card without her husband cosigning for it?

I believe that problem has been corrected.

Next?

 

[BULLDOG]

Did you know that in the 1960s a woman couldn't get a credit card without her husband cosigning for it?

I believe that problem has been corrected.

Next?

Yes, it has, relatively recently. I was responding to the claim that the US is the only country that knows how to balance the rights of individuals with the right's of society. Is this some recent bit of knowledge, only being uncovered within the last few years, since it has obviously not been practiced in the past? Even today there are huge inequalities. Did you know doctors routinely accept lower payments for the same procedures from insurance companies than they do from patients without insurance?

 

[MisterBeale]

If America knows how to balance the rights of the individual with the community, why haven't we done that? Did you know that in the 1960s a woman couldn't get a credit card without her husband cosigning for it? Or that women were excluded from juries? No need to go into separate schools or places to eat for the different races. Only a few years ago, it was legal to fire someone if they were gay. Today, a black person is more likely to be sentenced to a much longer sentence than a white person FOR THE SAME CRIME. Tell me more about how the US is uniquely able to balance the rights of individuals with the rights of society.

You might want to double check some of those pearls. They turn out to be just little balls of bullshit.

What a load of shit. Do you hate our government as much as the other RWNJs here do? Do you whine about the so called DEEP STATE or complain that our education system is a communist indoctrination center?

Yes, it has, relatively recently. I was responding to the claim that the US is the only country that knows how to balance the rights of individuals with the right's of society. Is this some recent bit of knowledge, only being uncovered within the last few years, since it has obviously not been practiced in the past? Even today there are huge inequalities. Did you know doctors routinely accept lower payments for the same procedures from insurance companies than they do from patients without insurance?

 

[fncceo]

Did you know doctors routinely accept lower payments for the same procedures from insurance companies than they do from patients without insurance?

Yes. It's very common for any business to give discounts to customers who buy in bulk and pay their bills promptly.

Just think of how much a doctor's practice has to pay to recover debt from individuals who decide not to pay AFTER they've been cured.

They don't have the issue with insurance customers, hence the discount.

 

[fncceo]

Yes, it has, relatively recently.

To be fair, the decision not to give credit cards to a spouse without the consent of the bill-paying spouse is a sound business decision.

It wasn't government directives that caused the policy to change, but the realization that offering credit to anyone with an income (regardless of sex) was also a sound business decision in the changing social structure of two income families.

The market WILL correct itself, given time.

 

[BULLDOG]

If America knows how to balance the rights of the individual with the community, why haven't we done that? Did you know that in the 1960s a woman couldn't get a credit card without her husband cosigning for it? Or that women were excluded from juries? No need to go into separate schools or places to eat for the different races. Only a few years ago, it was legal to fire someone if they were gay. Today, a black person is more likely to be sentenced to a much longer sentence than a white person FOR THE SAME CRIME. Tell me more about how the US is uniquely able to balance the rights of individuals with the rights of society.

You might want to double check some of those pearls. They turn out to be just little balls of bullshit.

What a load of shit. Do you hate our government as much as the other RWNJs here do? Do you whine about the so called DEEP STATE or complain that our education system is a communist indoctrination center?

Yes, it has, relatively recently. I was responding to the claim that the US is the only country that knows how to balance the rights of individuals with the right's of society. Is this some recent bit of knowledge, only being uncovered within the last few years, since it has obviously not been practiced in the past? Even today there are huge inequalities. Did you know doctors routinely accept lower payments for the same procedures from insurance companies than they do from patients without insurance?

emotions have nothing to do with reality. Is that the best response you can come up with?

 

[yidnar]

If America knows how to balance the rights of the individual with the community, why haven't we done that? Did you know that in the 1960s a woman couldn't get a credit card without her husband cosigning for it? Or that women were excluded from juries? No need to go into separate schools or places to eat for the different races. Only a few years ago, it was legal to fire someone if they were gay. Today, a black person is more likely to be sentenced to a much longer sentence than a white person FOR THE SAME CRIME. Tell me more about how the US is uniquely able to balance the rights of individuals with the rights of society.

You might want to double check some of those pearls. They turn out to be just little balls of bullshit.

What a load of shit. Do you hate our government as much as the other RWNJs here do? Do you whine about the so called DEEP STATE or complain that our education system is a communist indoctrination center?

Yes, it has, relatively recently. I was responding to the claim that the US is the only country that knows how to balance the rights of individuals with the right's of society. Is this some recent bit of knowledge, only being uncovered within the last few years, since it has obviously not been practiced in the past? Even today there are huge inequalities. Did you know doctors routinely accept lower payments for the same procedures from insurance companies than they do from patients without insurance?

emotions have nothing to do with reality. Is that the best response you can come up with?

no.... emotions dont trump reality ! you act on emotions like the effeminate screeching little leftist you are !

 

[MisterBeale]

If America knows how to balance the rights of the individual with the community, why haven't we done that? Did you know that in the 1960s a woman couldn't get a credit card without her husband cosigning for it? Or that women were excluded from juries? No need to go into separate schools or places to eat for the different races. Only a few years ago, it was legal to fire someone if they were gay. Today, a black person is more likely to be sentenced to a much longer sentence than a white person FOR THE SAME CRIME. Tell me more about how the US is uniquely able to balance the rights of individuals with the rights of society.

You might want to double check some of those pearls. They turn out to be just little balls of bullshit.

What a load of shit. Do you hate our government as much as the other RWNJs here do? Do you whine about the so called DEEP STATE or complain that our education system is a communist indoctrination center?

Yes, it has, relatively recently. I was responding to the claim that the US is the only country that knows how to balance the rights of individuals with the right's of society. Is this some recent bit of knowledge, only being uncovered within the last few years, since it has obviously not been practiced in the past? Even today there are huge inequalities. Did you know doctors routinely accept lower payments for the same procedures from insurance companies than they do from patients without insurance?

emotions have nothing to do with reality. Is that the best response you can come up with?

no.... emotions dont trump reality ! you act on emotions like the effeminate screeching little leftist you are !

Bulldog doesn't even know he is a Marxist, and when it is pointed out to him, and he protests, he gets monumentally triggered. . . and in a Satire thread of all places.

. . . it is entertaining.