Escalating gun crime in New Zealand...but, they just banned guns....right? Didn't criminals get the message?

So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives
.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.


No, they haven't banned guns.
Does that answer your question?


Yes...they have...

No...they really haven't...
Nearly 300,000[1] licensed firearm owners own and use New Zealand's estimated 1.5 million[1] firearms.[2] Gun licences are issued at the discretion of the police provided they consider the person to be of good standing[3][4] and without criminal, psychiatric or drug issues; as well as meeting other conditions such as having suitable storage facilities. Several different categories of licence are permitted, with the most common, "A Category", permitting access to sporting configuration rifles and shotguns.



Again...

It outlaws military-style semiautomatic weapons and assault rifles, and some gun parts, and violators face five years in prison.

These guns are banned.......

And fully automatic weapons are effectively banned here. What is your point?


The rifles they banned in Australia are not military weapons......they are semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns......

But they are banned...he said they weren't banned......
You said guns are banned...they're not banned.
300,000 firearms owners in a population of 4.5M is a sizeable proportion of the citizens owning supposedly banned items.
 
So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives
.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.


No, they haven't banned guns.
Does that answer your question?


Yes...they have...

No...they really haven't...
Nearly 300,000[1] licensed firearm owners own and use New Zealand's estimated 1.5 million[1] firearms.[2] Gun licences are issued at the discretion of the police provided they consider the person to be of good standing[3][4] and without criminal, psychiatric or drug issues; as well as meeting other conditions such as having suitable storage facilities. Several different categories of licence are permitted, with the most common, "A Category", permitting access to sporting configuration rifles and shotguns.



Again...

It outlaws military-style semiautomatic weapons and assault rifles, and some gun parts, and violators face five years in prison.

These guns are banned.......

And fully automatic weapons are effectively banned here. What is your point?


The rifles they banned in Australia are not military weapons......they are semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns......

But they are banned...he said they weren't banned......
You said guns are banned...they're not banned.
300,000 firearms owners in a population of 4.5M is a sizeable proportion of the citizens owning supposedly banned items.


Those guns are banned.....regular guns. Banned, and now confiscated.
 
So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives
.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.


No, they haven't banned guns.
Does that answer your question?


Yes...they have...

No...they really haven't...
Nearly 300,000[1] licensed firearm owners own and use New Zealand's estimated 1.5 million[1] firearms.[2] Gun licences are issued at the discretion of the police provided they consider the person to be of good standing[3][4] and without criminal, psychiatric or drug issues; as well as meeting other conditions such as having suitable storage facilities. Several different categories of licence are permitted, with the most common, "A Category", permitting access to sporting configuration rifles and shotguns.



Again...

It outlaws military-style semiautomatic weapons and assault rifles, and some gun parts, and violators face five years in prison.

These guns are banned.......

And fully automatic weapons are effectively banned here. What is your point?


The rifles they banned in Australia are not military weapons......they are semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns......

But they are banned...he said they weren't banned......
You said guns are banned...they're not banned.
300,000 firearms owners in a population of 4.5M is a sizeable proportion of the citizens owning supposedly banned items.


Those guns are banned.....regular guns. Banned, and now confiscated.
You said "...but, they just banned guns....right?".
It's in your thread title.
They haven't banned guns.
 
So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives
.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.


No, they haven't banned guns.
Does that answer your question?


Yes...they have...

No...they really haven't...
Nearly 300,000[1] licensed firearm owners own and use New Zealand's estimated 1.5 million[1] firearms.[2] Gun licences are issued at the discretion of the police provided they consider the person to be of good standing[3][4] and without criminal, psychiatric or drug issues; as well as meeting other conditions such as having suitable storage facilities. Several different categories of licence are permitted, with the most common, "A Category", permitting access to sporting configuration rifles and shotguns.



Again...

It outlaws military-style semiautomatic weapons and assault rifles, and some gun parts, and violators face five years in prison.

These guns are banned.......

And fully automatic weapons are effectively banned here. What is your point?


The rifles they banned in Australia are not military weapons......they are semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns......

But they are banned...he said they weren't banned......
You said guns are banned...they're not banned.
300,000 firearms owners in a population of 4.5M is a sizeable proportion of the citizens owning supposedly banned items.


Those guns are banned.....regular guns. Banned, and now confiscated.
You said "...but, they just banned guns....right?".
It's in your thread title.
They haven't banned guns.


Yes...they did.........
 
So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives
.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.


No, they haven't banned guns.
Does that answer your question?


Yes...they have...

No...they really haven't...
Nearly 300,000[1] licensed firearm owners own and use New Zealand's estimated 1.5 million[1] firearms.[2] Gun licences are issued at the discretion of the police provided they consider the person to be of good standing[3][4] and without criminal, psychiatric or drug issues; as well as meeting other conditions such as having suitable storage facilities. Several different categories of licence are permitted, with the most common, "A Category", permitting access to sporting configuration rifles and shotguns.



Again...

It outlaws military-style semiautomatic weapons and assault rifles, and some gun parts, and violators face five years in prison.

These guns are banned.......

And fully automatic weapons are effectively banned here. What is your point?


The rifles they banned in Australia are not military weapons......they are semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns......

But they are banned...he said they weren't banned......
You said guns are banned...they're not banned.
300,000 firearms owners in a population of 4.5M is a sizeable proportion of the citizens owning supposedly banned items.


Those guns are banned.....regular guns. Banned, and now confiscated.

Do you ever just shut up and think about the goofy shit you constantly post? You should.
 
So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives
.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.


No, they haven't banned guns.
Does that answer your question?


Yes...they have...

No...they really haven't...
Nearly 300,000[1] licensed firearm owners own and use New Zealand's estimated 1.5 million[1] firearms.[2] Gun licences are issued at the discretion of the police provided they consider the person to be of good standing[3][4] and without criminal, psychiatric or drug issues; as well as meeting other conditions such as having suitable storage facilities. Several different categories of licence are permitted, with the most common, "A Category", permitting access to sporting configuration rifles and shotguns.



Again...

It outlaws military-style semiautomatic weapons and assault rifles, and some gun parts, and violators face five years in prison.

These guns are banned.......

And fully automatic weapons are effectively banned here. What is your point?


The rifles they banned in Australia are not military weapons......they are semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns......

But they are banned...he said they weren't banned......
You said guns are banned...they're not banned.
300,000 firearms owners in a population of 4.5M is a sizeable proportion of the citizens owning supposedly banned items.


Those guns are banned.....regular guns. Banned, and now confiscated.
You said "...but, they just banned guns....right?".
It's in your thread title.
They haven't banned guns.


Yes...they did.........
Do some research.
 
So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives
.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.


No, they haven't banned guns.
Does that answer your question?


Yes...they have...

No...they really haven't...
Nearly 300,000[1] licensed firearm owners own and use New Zealand's estimated 1.5 million[1] firearms.[2] Gun licences are issued at the discretion of the police provided they consider the person to be of good standing[3][4] and without criminal, psychiatric or drug issues; as well as meeting other conditions such as having suitable storage facilities. Several different categories of licence are permitted, with the most common, "A Category", permitting access to sporting configuration rifles and shotguns.



Again...

It outlaws military-style semiautomatic weapons and assault rifles, and some gun parts, and violators face five years in prison.

These guns are banned.......

And fully automatic weapons are effectively banned here. What is your point?


The rifles they banned in Australia are not military weapons......they are semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns......

But they are banned...he said they weren't banned......
You said guns are banned...they're not banned.
300,000 firearms owners in a population of 4.5M is a sizeable proportion of the citizens owning supposedly banned items.


Those guns are banned.....regular guns. Banned, and now confiscated.

Do you ever just shut up and think about the goofy shit you constantly post? You should.


That all you have? I post truth, facts and reality.....you post....that.

Not impressed.
 
So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives
.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.


No, they haven't banned guns.
Does that answer your question?


Yes...they have...

No...they really haven't...
Nearly 300,000[1] licensed firearm owners own and use New Zealand's estimated 1.5 million[1] firearms.[2] Gun licences are issued at the discretion of the police provided they consider the person to be of good standing[3][4] and without criminal, psychiatric or drug issues; as well as meeting other conditions such as having suitable storage facilities. Several different categories of licence are permitted, with the most common, "A Category", permitting access to sporting configuration rifles and shotguns.



Again...

It outlaws military-style semiautomatic weapons and assault rifles, and some gun parts, and violators face five years in prison.

These guns are banned.......

And fully automatic weapons are effectively banned here. What is your point?


The rifles they banned in Australia are not military weapons......they are semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns......

But they are banned...he said they weren't banned......
You said guns are banned...they're not banned.
300,000 firearms owners in a population of 4.5M is a sizeable proportion of the citizens owning supposedly banned items.


Those guns are banned.....regular guns. Banned, and now confiscated.

Do you ever just shut up and think about the goofy shit you constantly post? You should.


That all you have? I post truth, facts and reality.....you post....that.

Not impressed.

You post the same crap every day. If it was stupid when you posted it a year ago, it's still stupid
 
So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives
.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.


No, they haven't banned guns.
Does that answer your question?


Yes...they have...

No...they really haven't...
Nearly 300,000[1] licensed firearm owners own and use New Zealand's estimated 1.5 million[1] firearms.[2] Gun licences are issued at the discretion of the police provided they consider the person to be of good standing[3][4] and without criminal, psychiatric or drug issues; as well as meeting other conditions such as having suitable storage facilities. Several different categories of licence are permitted, with the most common, "A Category", permitting access to sporting configuration rifles and shotguns.



Again...

It outlaws military-style semiautomatic weapons and assault rifles, and some gun parts, and violators face five years in prison.

These guns are banned.......

And fully automatic weapons are effectively banned here. What is your point?


The rifles they banned in Australia are not military weapons......they are semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns......

But they are banned...he said they weren't banned......
You said guns are banned...they're not banned.
300,000 firearms owners in a population of 4.5M is a sizeable proportion of the citizens owning supposedly banned items.


Those guns are banned.....regular guns. Banned, and now confiscated.

Do you ever just shut up and think about the goofy shit you constantly post? You should.


That all you have? I post truth, facts and reality.....you post....that.

Not impressed.
You haven't posted facts in this case.
Try again.
 
So...Australia is dumping violent criminals into New Zealand......and those criminals are using guns to commit crimes.....

But....I thought it was guns that caused crime...not criminals....

Worsening gun violence linked to gang turf wars, illicit drugs and the insidious cancer of organised crime has left more than 350 people with firearms injuries across Auckland in five years.

More than half of the wounded were treated at Middlemore Hospital as violence in South Auckland spilled over into bloodshed, leaving numerous people dead and scores of others fighting for their lives
.

Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has serious concerns about the growing use of firearms.

He has written to the Police Minister and will meet Deputy Police Commissioner John Tims next week to discuss how to tackle the spate of shootings and toxic impact of gangs

These 501s have swamped the domestic crime scene with a level of violence that is far in excess of what the domestic NZ gangs use and with their South American Cartel links, the 501s are importing a purer and cheaper meth that is causing enormous damage in our communities.




But.....but........I thought if you banned and confiscated guns....especially those "Assault" Rifles that aren't "assault" rifles.....peace would reign..........right?

Why is gun crime going up in New Zealand?

This should only be surprising to those idealistic and gullible supporters of gun confiscation who really believe that criminals are going to abide by gun control laws even though they don’t seem to care much about any other laws on the books.

A new report by Radio New Zealand shows that even after the government’s ban and compensated confiscation of tens of thousands of semi-automatic firearms, “gun crime hit a new peak” in the country last year.
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Police had told her that “guns were increasingly present”, Ardern said.

“We have removed a particular form of weapon from circulation. But that does not mean of course that there are not still weapons in use by gangs, or that they are not available. … These are things that are going to take some time to turn around.”


 
Their gun confiscation has had no impact on gun crime.....you know, since criminals ignore laws....

But Radio New Zealand reported on Monday that the reform “has had no impact on a rise in gun crime and violence”, pointing to police statistics that show charges reached a new peak in 2020. Nearly 2,400 people were charged with 4,542 firearms-related offences, nearly double that of a decade earlier, while 1,862 firearms were seized under the Search and Surveillance Act, compared with 860 10 years ago.
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“We do have an increasing issue with gun use, particularly amongst our organised criminals so, for me, that is more rationale for the kinds of legislation we already put in place.”

Police had told her that “guns were increasingly present”, Ardern said.
 
Their gun confiscation has had no impact on gun crime.....you know, since criminals ignore laws....

But Radio New Zealand reported on Monday that the reform “has had no impact on a rise in gun crime and violence”, pointing to police statistics that show charges reached a new peak in 2020. Nearly 2,400 people were charged with 4,542 firearms-related offences, nearly double that of a decade earlier, while 1,862 firearms were seized under the Search and Surveillance Act, compared with 860 10 years ago.
-----------
“We do have an increasing issue with gun use, particularly amongst our organised criminals so, for me, that is more rationale for the kinds of legislation we already put in place.”

Police had told her that “guns were increasingly present”, Ardern said.


You should hook up with that goober in another thread who keeps whining about filling buckets with air to make a perpetual motion machine. Your logic is the same, and you would probably become BFFs
 
Australia is deporting NZ citizens who some people call "slow learners" back to their homeland.
"Slow learners" with serious criminal records.
Said people are not being deported because they have a lot of parking tickets.
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Gun crime and violent gangs on the increase in NZ?
No surprise...sleepy hollow was always going to have to face the challenge one day...that day is now.
The Australian man responsible for the "mosque massacres" did not bring the weapons from Australia, he simply bought them legally at gun shops in NZ.
NZ did not ban the sale and possession of such weapons at the same time Australia did.
It should have.
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What should NZ do now?...in these times of "peace, love and harmony...everyone in the world is a lovely person".
Get serious, very serious about the matter.
Ban all guns except bolt-action rifles. Said bolt-action rifles only available to registered farmers and registered hunters...who are sane.
Break the gun laws...very serious penalties for the offenders.
Have a gun amnesty.
Then, when it expires...
early am one day, the NZ army surrounds the trouble spots, no one in or out. Every house and person searched for illegal weapons.
Army soldiers dressed for combat.
Cop SWAT teams.
The trouble areas cleaned out.
All sinners arrested and locked up.
 

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