kiwiman127
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What a bulshit avatar you have, you just condoned a Navy Vet, who was not aggressive or threatening, getting repeatedly clubbed and pepper sprayed by Trump’s Gestapo.
You are a absolutely pathetic subhuman being.
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Feds in Portland Brutalize Navy Vet.
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You are a absolutely pathetic subhuman being.
SavannahMann
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Part of the problem facing Democrats in 1968 that helped Nixon get elected, was the response to the Protests and riots. Almost immediately, the final night was known as the Police Riot, when the cops went hog wild on the protestors. The longer term aftermath was that the police had overreacted, the Democrats could not come together to condemn the abuses, and they left the convention looking fractured and with incompatible ideals.
Of course, the same thing happened at the Ferguson Riots. The Cops, standing in armor and all that, snarling on camera to the Protestors. Bring it you fucking animals. The cops looked out of control, and as violent as we are told the "baddies" are.
So to this year, all the lessons of the past have been thrown out the window. It is too good an opportunity for the racists and morons of the Right to pass up. They want blood and they'll have it. Even if they have to send in Feds to do the brutality that the locals won't do.
Yes, the rioters are doing damage. Yes people are being hurt, and all that. But as long as the police are controlled, it is the Rioters who look bad on TV, and their message is lost to that image. However, when the Feds go brutal on a man standing there, or on people wearing Red Cross markers to show they are there to help the injured, then the message of the Rioters, the protestors, or whatever you want to call them is amplified.
So all of you thinking that Trump will win easily if he puts down the riots with brutality, You are losing ground on that issue mate. More people, including people who have never gone to a protest before, are showing up. Mothers are showing up to stand between the police and the kids. People are stepping up to oppose the brutality. They have had enough of the idiotic excuses and promises of reform that never materialize. They are tired of the internal investigations that take years. While those who dare touch a cop are already in prison serving long sentences for their horrendous crime in months instead of years of investigation.
The old excuses just aren't working anymore. And the people closest to the riots and protests, the city officials, are aware of it. That is why they keep pushing for restraint on the part of the police they have influence over. And those who are farthest from the area, are the most out of touch, are the ones demanding brutality to bring the masses in line.
It is backfiring. Unlike the RW heroes who demand live ammunition, those opposing the Police Brutality are showing up. While the Heroes stay safe at home, clutching their guns, and dreaming of the day that someone announces it is open season on the rioters. Of course, even then they would be the last ones in, they might get hurt if they're first in.
There is no good way to handle it. But you might want to take stock of Prisons which have riots. At Attica they charged in guns blazing, and lost tons of respect. Since that time, they set up a cordon outside the prison, and wait while the prisoners calm down and negotiate an agreement. Patience and honest dialogue goes farther than fury and firearms in solving problems. Especially when the State Police, in retaking the prison, killed ten of the hostages and four times that number in prisoners.
Rockefeller assumed he would look strong and resolute, and instead insured he would never achieve his real goal, the Presidency. Think about that for a minute.
Of course, the same thing happened at the Ferguson Riots. The Cops, standing in armor and all that, snarling on camera to the Protestors. Bring it you fucking animals. The cops looked out of control, and as violent as we are told the "baddies" are.
So to this year, all the lessons of the past have been thrown out the window. It is too good an opportunity for the racists and morons of the Right to pass up. They want blood and they'll have it. Even if they have to send in Feds to do the brutality that the locals won't do.
Yes, the rioters are doing damage. Yes people are being hurt, and all that. But as long as the police are controlled, it is the Rioters who look bad on TV, and their message is lost to that image. However, when the Feds go brutal on a man standing there, or on people wearing Red Cross markers to show they are there to help the injured, then the message of the Rioters, the protestors, or whatever you want to call them is amplified.
So all of you thinking that Trump will win easily if he puts down the riots with brutality, You are losing ground on that issue mate. More people, including people who have never gone to a protest before, are showing up. Mothers are showing up to stand between the police and the kids. People are stepping up to oppose the brutality. They have had enough of the idiotic excuses and promises of reform that never materialize. They are tired of the internal investigations that take years. While those who dare touch a cop are already in prison serving long sentences for their horrendous crime in months instead of years of investigation.
The old excuses just aren't working anymore. And the people closest to the riots and protests, the city officials, are aware of it. That is why they keep pushing for restraint on the part of the police they have influence over. And those who are farthest from the area, are the most out of touch, are the ones demanding brutality to bring the masses in line.
It is backfiring. Unlike the RW heroes who demand live ammunition, those opposing the Police Brutality are showing up. While the Heroes stay safe at home, clutching their guns, and dreaming of the day that someone announces it is open season on the rioters. Of course, even then they would be the last ones in, they might get hurt if they're first in.
There is no good way to handle it. But you might want to take stock of Prisons which have riots. At Attica they charged in guns blazing, and lost tons of respect. Since that time, they set up a cordon outside the prison, and wait while the prisoners calm down and negotiate an agreement. Patience and honest dialogue goes farther than fury and firearms in solving problems. Especially when the State Police, in retaking the prison, killed ten of the hostages and four times that number in prisoners.
Rockefeller assumed he would look strong and resolute, and instead insured he would never achieve his real goal, the Presidency. Think about that for a minute.
SavannahMann
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It's my understanding they tore down the barricade to the building. Am I incorrect on this?So why did they shoot a man, who was only holding a boom box, in the head?
Why are they kidnapping people off the street?
It's my understanding that the uhh.. Rioters, are coming to the FEDERAL BUILDING looking for a fight. Am I incorrect on this?
If that was the case, then the Federal Cops would surround the buildings, and defend it against the Rioters. In that case they would not need unmarked vans to go around and snatch people off the street would they? They could and would build a fence or a wall around the building, and grab people who tried to come over the fence or wall right? Instead they are going out into the streets, and that means the excuse of defending the building, is a little hollow.
The reason they are turning many of those they snatch off the streets loose is that they are not committing a federal crime, and the Feds do not have the authority to enforce State or city laws. They are empowered to enforce various Federal Laws. They are trained and given the authority to enforce Federal Law. We don't want to see Federal Agents patrolling the roads and byways do we? They could claim that they were fine, the roads were built with Federal Dollars right?
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The intimidation factor of running around in unmarked vans, with unmarked uniforms, and unidentifiable Federal Agents, seems to be backfiring. As anyone with a brain could have figured out it would.
As I mentioned before the Conservative Website Hot Air, founded by Michelle Malkin who was attacked at a Blue Lives Matter event this weekend, has another story on the Federal Agents in Camouflage that are running amok in Portland.
There is video at the link, and it is disturbing. A retired naval officer was beaten by the Feds for asking why they were violating their oath.
For a long time now, people have been warning about the dangers of militarized police, and instead of heeding those warnings, the Feds seem to be embracing them in an effort to intimidate the protestors. Instead, more are showing up, outraged at the uniforms absent identification, and the bullying tactics of the agents who are obviously instructed to do so by their superiors.
You can't file a complaint against Agent Jones. If you have no idea it was Jones who bashed your skull in. You can't file a lawsuit complaining that Agent number 9596 cracked your skull if there is no way to know who did it. In Fiction, James Bond and the rest of the 00 Agents had a License to Kill. In reality, it looks like the Federal Agents have that license, and the enemy is anyone who doesn't bow down.
Those of you cheering this brutality, ask yourself this. If Biden wins, are you ready for that machine to be turned on you? Think about it.
I've reserved judgement on this because all we have is one side of the story. He walks up to them in the middle of absolute chaos and asks them why they are "dishonoring their oath". Ok, it's plausible. But he just as easily could have said "I'm going to kill every single on of you fuckers" or something equally provocative. The truth of the matter is we have no idea what was said. It's just his word at this point.
If it actually went down as he says it did then the Feds were in the wrong and should be charged accordingly. However we mustn't lose sight of the fact that these Antifa shitlords have been attacking these guys for weeks. Everyone has a breaking point. Law enforcement is no exception.
justinacolmena
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No you can't. They're fuckers, fakers. Every city cop on the beat has a badge number, too, and they appear in court without the I.D. they demand of the defendants to their charges and allegations.You can't file a complaint against Agent Jones. If you have no idea it was Jones who bashed your skull in. You can't file a lawsuit complaining that Agent number 9596 cracked your skull if there is no way to know who did it.
They attempted to capture me once, and later fired at me, attempting to kill me in Portland, Oregon. Their actions, no matter how vile, appear to have the full support, complicity, and cooperation of local law enforcement everywhere.
justinacolmena
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They're hauling us into court, falsifying, and fabricating such details as the time, date, place, and cause of the arrests.A couple of the catch and release folks were released from the Federal Courthouse. Unless Vigilantes or local cops have the authority to transport prisoners there.
You've got too many buddies and this is not appearing in a good light at court martial.Damn right! Who gave this vet the idea that the could exercise his constitutional right of free speech Trump's America?
Mac-7
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It does not disturb meThere is video at the link, and it is disturbing.
he was participating in a riot
when the mob engages in violence it sometimes rebounds on the mobsters
JimBowie1958
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And what happens to the Constitutional right to due process for the vast majority in these little marxistvilles?I say don't send federal law enforcement to any of these cities if the state and local leaders want to let mobs burn there city to the ground so be it. This also means no federal bailout money those who sat back and let it happen can pay for it themselves.
The Federalis should just ignore their rights and let BLM and ANTIFA walk all over everyone else?
You sound to me like a wimp using any excuse to abandon Americans to chaos and violence.
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JimBowie1958
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That pretty much says it all for the ANTIFA fellow travelers.Yes, the rioters are doing damage. Yes people are being hurt, and all that.
You compare looting and rioting to mere 'protest'.
While Federalis who are arresting people as suspects in federal crimes then letting them go unharmed are 'brutalizing' them?
ROFLMAO, now THAT is a skewed framework of perception if I ever saw one.
TroglocratsRdumb
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They are there to protect federal property.
If the Democrat Party's Antifa Terrorist and their BLM Racist do not attack a Federal facility they will be fine.
If the Democrat Party's Antifa Terrorist and their BLM Racist do not attack a Federal facility they will be fine.
Deplorable Yankee
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Speech has consequences or so we're toldAnd who made him go to the riots....NOT PROTESTS.............he should have stayed home and he will be just fine........
Shore Patrol would smack you down while in the Navy...........OH WELL.............Portland escalated this........this is what they wanted......
Damn right! Who gave this vet the idea that the could exercise his constitutional right of free speech Trump's America?
Free speech lefties
Lesh
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That Navy Vet was none of those things.They are there to protect federal property.
If the Democrat Party's Antifa Terrorist and their BLM Racist do not attack a Federal facility they will be fine.
Those Moms that were gassed were none of those things
gipper
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The right wing media is portraying Portland as some kind of commie insurrection and cons are buying the propaganda.That Navy Vet was none of those things.They are there to protect federal property.
If the Democrat Party's Antifa Terrorist and their BLM Racist do not attack a Federal facility they will be fine.
Those Moms that were gassed were none of those things
Ricky LIbtardo
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The intimidation factor of running around in unmarked vans, with unmarked uniforms, and unidentifiable Federal Agents, seems to be backfiring. As anyone with a brain could have figured out it would.
As I mentioned before the Conservative Website Hot Air, founded by Michelle Malkin who was attacked at a Blue Lives Matter event this weekend, has another story on the Federal Agents in Camouflage that are running amok in Portland.
There is video at the link, and it is disturbing. A retired naval officer was beaten by the Feds for asking why they were violating their oath.
For a long time now, people have been warning about the dangers of militarized police, and instead of heeding those warnings, the Feds seem to be embracing them in an effort to intimidate the protestors. Instead, more are showing up, outraged at the uniforms absent identification, and the bullying tactics of the agents who are obviously instructed to do so by their superiors.
You can't file a complaint against Agent Jones. If you have no idea it was Jones who bashed your skull in. You can't file a lawsuit complaining that Agent number 9596 cracked your skull if there is no way to know who did it. In Fiction, James Bond and the rest of the 00 Agents had a License to Kill. In reality, it looks like the Federal Agents have that license, and the enemy is anyone who doesn't bow down.
Those of you cheering this brutality, ask yourself this. If Biden wins, are you ready for that machine to be turned on you? Think about it.
The intimidation factor of running around in unmarked vans, with unmarked uniforms, and unidentifiable Federal Agents, seems to be backfiring. As anyone with a brain could have figured out it would.
As I mentioned before the Conservative Website Hot Air, founded by Michelle Malkin who was attacked at a Blue Lives Matter event this weekend, has another story on the Federal Agents in Camouflage that are running amok in Portland.
There is video at the link, and it is disturbing. A retired naval officer was beaten by the Feds for asking why they were violating their oath.
For a long time now, people have been warning about the dangers of militarized police, and instead of heeding those warnings, the Feds seem to be embracing them in an effort to intimidate the protestors. Instead, more are showing up, outraged at the uniforms absent identification, and the bullying tactics of the agents who are obviously instructed to do so by their superiors.
You can't file a complaint against Agent Jones. If you have no idea it was Jones who bashed your skull in. You can't file a lawsuit complaining that Agent number 9596 cracked your skull if there is no way to know who did it. In Fiction, James Bond and the rest of the 00 Agents had a License to Kill. In reality, it looks like the Federal Agents have that license, and the enemy is anyone who doesn't bow down.
Those of you cheering this brutality, ask yourself this. If Biden wins, are you ready for that machine to be turned on you? Think about it.
So why is a vet part of a Marxist mob trying to attack a federal building? He was intentionally trying to antagonize those agents. And just because he was a vet doesn't exonerate him from committing a crime. And you don't know if he was doing damage to the building before the agents smacked him.
Those Marxists are trying to occupy the federal building like they did the police building in Seattle. And the feds wouldn't have to be there protecting OUR property if the Portland police would do their job.
And IF Bidum wins these mobs will be in the suburbs destroying your property. These are not peaceful protests.
I can't believe you're defending the Marxist ANTIFA anarchists over our Federal police. You have been brainwashed by Fake News.
Ricky LIbtardo
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That Navy Vet was none of those things.They are there to protect federal property.
If the Democrat Party's Antifa Terrorist and their BLM Racist do not attack a Federal facility they will be fine.
Those Moms that were gassed were none of those things
Bullshit, he was part of a Marxist mob attacking Federal property which has been going on two months.
LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!!!!That Navy Vet was none of those things.They are there to protect federal property.
If the Democrat Party's Antifa Terrorist and their BLM Racist do not attack a Federal facility they will be fine.
Those Moms that were gassed were none of those things
Bullshit, he was part of a Marxist mob attacking Federal property which has been going on two months.
Ricky LIbtardo
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The intimidation factor of running around in unmarked vans, with unmarked uniforms, and unidentifiable Federal Agents, seems to be backfiring. As anyone with a brain could have figured out it would.
As I mentioned before the Conservative Website Hot Air, founded by Michelle Malkin who was attacked at a Blue Lives Matter event this weekend, has another story on the Federal Agents in Camouflage that are running amok in Portland.
There is video at the link, and it is disturbing. A retired naval officer was beaten by the Feds for asking why they were violating their oath.
For a long time now, people have been warning about the dangers of militarized police, and instead of heeding those warnings, the Feds seem to be embracing them in an effort to intimidate the protestors. Instead, more are showing up, outraged at the uniforms absent identification, and the bullying tactics of the agents who are obviously instructed to do so by their superiors.
You can't file a complaint against Agent Jones. If you have no idea it was Jones who bashed your skull in. You can't file a lawsuit complaining that Agent number 9596 cracked your skull if there is no way to know who did it. In Fiction, James Bond and the rest of the 00 Agents had a License to Kill. In reality, it looks like the Federal Agents have that license, and the enemy is anyone who doesn't bow down.
Those of you cheering this brutality, ask yourself this. If Biden wins, are you ready for that machine to be turned on you? Think about it.
So I guess you think these are "peaceful" protests. They are not, they are riots. You have been brainwashed by Marxist propaganda.
Ricky LIbtardo
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LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!!!!That Navy Vet was none of those things.They are there to protect federal property.
If the Democrat Party's Antifa Terrorist and their BLM Racist do not attack a Federal facility they will be fine.
Those Moms that were gassed were none of those things
Bullshit, he was part of a Marxist mob attacking Federal property which has been going on two months.
We know you're ANTIFA Marxist so go pound sand.
Ricky LIbtardo
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LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!!!!That Navy Vet was none of those things.They are there to protect federal property.
If the Democrat Party's Antifa Terrorist and their BLM Racist do not attack a Federal facility they will be fine.
Those Moms that were gassed were none of those things
Bullshit, he was part of a Marxist mob attacking Federal property which has been going on two months.
Anyone you know or was one one of these "peaceful" protesters you?
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