Zone1 Four Beliefs of Christian Doctrine - What If Any are Taken Away?

[onefour1]

That's not what the Bible or Martin Luther said. Mary was not stained with original sin. She was full of Grace and without sin.

Where in the Bible does it teach that Mary was not mortal and without sin? Martin Luther is not one I look to for true teaches about God, Jesus or Mary. Mary was mortal and subject to sin and death.

 

[surada]

Where in the Bible does it teach that Mary was not mortal and without sin? Martin Luther is not one I look to for true teaches about God, Jesus or Mary. Mary was mortal and subject to sin and death.

There's no where that claims Mary isn't mortal... and I never said she wasn't mortal. Learn to think when you read.

 

[onefour1]

There's no where that claims Mary isn't mortal... and I never said she wasn't mortal. Learn to think when you read.

No, but you claimed that she was without sin. Jesus is the only one who ever walked the earth that was without sin.

Romans 3:23-24
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Mary is part of the all that have sinned. All mankind, including Mary, have fallen and are in need of the redemption through grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Jesus is the only one who ever was born on this earth that did no sin.

1 Peter 2:21-25
21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:
23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:
24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

Nowhere in the Bible, as you claimed, does it ever teach that Mary was without sin.

 

[surada]

No, but you claimed that she was without sin. Jesus is the only one who ever walked the earth that was without sin.

Romans 3:23-24
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Mary is part of the all that have sinned. All mankind, including Mary, have fallen and are in need of the redemption through grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Jesus is the only one who ever was born on this earth that did no sin.

1 Peter 2:21-25
21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:
23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:
24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

Nowhere in the Bible, as you claimed, does it ever teach that Mary was without sin.

Believe whatever you like... Full of Grace means there was no room for sin.


The sinlessness of Mary refers to the doctrine in which Mary, mother of Jesus chose not to sin. It is upheld by the Catholic Church, Oriental Orthodox Churches, Eastern Orthodox Churches, as well as by high church Lutherans.