Global Warming or Climate Change?

[wihosa]

It's both! Global warming induced climate change.

In the 1950's and '60's when scientists noticed carbon dioxide building up in the atmosphere due to increasing use of fossil fuels they predicted that the atmosphere would begin to warm. They were right.

They then predicted the increasing atmospheric temperatures would lead to more extreme weather events like heat waves, freezes, heavy rain, tornadoes, hurricanes, droughts and floods. Again, they were right.

In 1980 NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration began recording the data on extreme weather events, those in excess of $1 Billion.

Minimum to maximum per year Total per decade Cost per decade $Billions
1980's. 2 - 7 33. $219
1990's. 3 - 11. 57 $335
2000's 3 - 12. 67 $621
2010's. 7 - 21. 131. $994
2020's. 18 - 28.(5 years). 115. $746
The $ are inflation adjusted.
You can check the data NOAA Climate.org

The science is right and the trend line is devastating, we've gone from a minimum of 2 to a minimum of 18 every year! For the whole decade of the 2020's the losses will easily exceed $100 B. How many billion dollar losses can we sustain before we can't repair fast enough to keep up with new damage? As of 2019 New Orleans still hadn't fully recovered.

The good news is we know what to do and we've made a good start on it.

If you don't care about the Earth, or you don't have kids or enyone else who's future you care about, think about your wallet man! We all pay taxes, even 'you know who' paid $750 in 2016! Do you want your taxes spent on disaster clean up? ( yes, if need be but I can think of better uses)

And of course, if you are the victim of an extreme weather event you may lose everything you've worked for, or even your life!

Climate change disasters can strike anywhere...no where is immune.

Well that's just the facts. Climate change is real and it won't go away on its own .

 

[RetiredGySgt]

It's both! Global warming induced climate change.

In the 1950's and '60's when scientists noticed carbon dioxide building up in the atmosphere due to increasing use of fossil fuels they predicted that the atmosphere would begin to warm. They were right.

They then predicted the increasing atmospheric temperatures would lead to more extreme weather events like heat waves, freezes, heavy rain, tornadoes, hurricanes, droughts and floods. Again, they were right.

In 1980 NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration began recording the data on extreme weather events, those in excess of $1 Billion.

Minimum to maximum per year Total per decade Cost per decade $Billions
1980's. 2 - 7 33. $219
1990's. 3 - 11. 57 $335
2000's 3 - 12. 67 $621
2010's. 7 - 21. 131. $994
2020's. 18 - 28.(5 years). 115. $746
The $ are inflation adjusted.
You can check the data NOAA Climate.org

The science is right and the trend line is devastating, we've gone from a minimum of 2 to a minimum of 18 every year! For the whole decade of the 2020's the losses will easily exceed $100 B. How many billion dollar losses can we sustain before we can't repair fast enough to keep up with new damage? As of 2019 New Orleans still hadn't fully recovered.

The good news is we know what to do and we've made a good start on it.

If you don't care about the Earth, or you don't have kids or enyone else who's future you care about, think about your wallet man! We all pay taxes, even 'you know who' paid $750 in 2016! Do you want your taxes spent on disaster clean up? ( yes, if need be but I can think of better uses)

And of course, if you are the victim of an extreme weather event you may lose everything you've worked for, or even your life!

Climate change disasters can strike anywhere...no where is immune.

Well that's just the facts. Climate change is real and it won't go away on its own .

Once again for the truly slow and stupid, disasters cost more because millions of people moved into those zones with the increase in businesses also. and Infrastructure, It has almost zero to do with climate change.

 

[Contumacious]

It's both! Global warming induced climate change.

In the 1950's and '60's when scientists noticed carbon dioxide building up in the atmosphere due to increasing use of fossil fuels they predicted that the atmosphere would begin to warm. They were right.

PURE UNADULTERATED BULLSHIT , i.e. JUNK SCIENCE

Back them JUNK SCIENCE WAS PREDICTING GLOBAL COOLING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Global cooling​

Global cooling was a conjecture, especially during the 1970s, of imminent cooling of the Earth culminating in a period of extensive glaciation, due to the cooling effects of aerosols or orbital forcing. Some press reports in the 1970s speculated about continued cooling; these did not accurately reflect the scientific literature of the time, which was generally more concerned with warming from an enhanced greenhouse effect.[1]

In the mid 1970s, the limited temperature series available suggested that the temperature had decreased for several decades up to then. As longer time series of higher quality became available, it became clear that global temperature showed significant increases overall.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling

Global cooling - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Now go smoke another sinsemilla


AIn't that some shitsky ?

 

[Concerned American]

In the 1950's and '60's when scientists noticed carbon dioxide building up in the atmosphere due to increasing use of fossil fuels they predicted that the atmosphere would begin to warm.

If that was the case, we should have fried in the 60s as the air is much cleaner now than it was then.
You doomsday predictors have been wrong in every prediction. You are basing your theories on information collected over the past 70 years, LOL, a blink in the history of the earth. Wake up.

 

[JGalt]

It's both! Global warming induced climate change.

In the 1950's and '60's when scientists noticed carbon dioxide building up in the atmosphere due to increasing use of fossil fuels they predicted that the atmosphere would begin to warm. They were right.

They then predicted the increasing atmospheric temperatures would lead to more extreme weather events like heat waves, freezes, heavy rain, tornadoes, hurricanes, droughts and floods. Again, they were right.

In 1980 NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration began recording the data on extreme weather events, those in excess of $1 Billion.

Minimum to maximum per year Total per decade Cost per decade $Billions
1980's. 2 - 7 33. $219
1990's. 3 - 11. 57 $335
2000's 3 - 12. 67 $621
2010's. 7 - 21. 131. $994
2020's. 18 - 28.(5 years). 115. $746
The $ are inflation adjusted.
You can check the data NOAA Climate.org

The science is right and the trend line is devastating, we've gone from a minimum of 2 to a minimum of 18 every year! For the whole decade of the 2020's the losses will easily exceed $100 B. How many billion dollar losses can we sustain before we can't repair fast enough to keep up with new damage? As of 2019 New Orleans still hadn't fully recovered.

The good news is we know what to do and we've made a good start on it.

If you don't care about the Earth, or you don't have kids or enyone else who's future you care about, think about your wallet man! We all pay taxes, even 'you know who' paid $750 in 2016! Do you want your taxes spent on disaster clean up? ( yes, if need be but I can think of better uses)

And of course, if you are the victim of an extreme weather event you may lose everything you've worked for, or even your life!

Climate change disasters can strike anywhere...no where is immune.

Well that's just the facts. Climate change is real and it won't go away on its own .

Carbon dioxide building up in the atmosphere was in no way due to the increased use of fossil fuels. It's nothing but pure narcissism to believe that puny humankind can have a single iota of control over global climate. Studies of the ice layers show that there were even higher levels of CO2 during times when no humans inhabited the earth. The idea of "man-made global warming" is just junk science.

 

[wihosa]

Once again for the truly slow and stupid, disasters cost more because millions of people moved into those zones with the increase in businesses also. and Infrastructure, It has almost zero to do with climate change.

Once again for the truly slow and stupid, disasters cost more because millions of people moved into those zones with the increase in businesses also. and Infrastructure, It has almost zero to do with

Once again for the truly slow and stupid, disasters cost more because millions of people moved into those zones with the increase in businesses also. and Infrastructure, It has almost zero to do with climate change.

Well that's brilliant Sarge! If we make sure no one lives where there is likely to be an extreme weather event then it won't cost anything! All we gotta' do is move 20 million people out of Southern California. .

Look at the data man! You've been brainwashed by billionaires. The weather is getting more extreme. Insurance companies are pulling out because they believe the data.

Pacific Palisades is one of the oldest neighborhoods in LA, dating back to the 1920's. It was completely built out by the 1960's., so twenty thousand people lived there for over fifty years with no catastrophic fires .so what was different ? There's been about 1/8" of rain in LA county since last June and 60 - 80 mph winds. Both weather extremes...

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Well that's brilliant Sarge! If we make sure no one lives where there is likely to be an extreme weather event then it won't cost anything! All we gotta' do is move 20 million people out of Southern California. .

Look at the data man! You've been brainwashed by billionaires. The weather is getting more extreme. Insurance companies are pulling out because they believe the data.

Pacific Palisades is one of the oldest neighborhoods in LA, dating back to the 1920's. It was completely built out by the 1960's., so twenty thousand people lived there for over fifty years with no catastrophic fires .so what was different ? There's been about 1/8" of rain in LA county since last June and 60 - 80 mph winds. Both weather extremes...

wrong the conditions there have not changed what changed was the idiots in charge of fire prevention.

 

[wihosa]

PURE UNADULTERATED BULLSHIT , i.e. JUNK SCIENCE

Back them JUNK SCIENCE WAS PREDICTING GLOBAL COOLING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Global cooling​

Global cooling was a conjecture, especially during the 1970s, of imminent cooling of the Earth culminating in a period of extensive glaciation, due to the cooling effects of aerosols or orbital forcing. Some press reports in the 1970s speculated about continued cooling; these did not accurately reflect the scientific literature of the time, which was generally more concerned with warming from an enhanced greenhouse effect.[1]

In the mid 1970s, the limited temperature series available suggested that the temperature had decreased for several decades up to then. As longer time series of higher quality became available, it became clear that global temperature showed significant increases overall.
Global cooling - Wikipedia

Global cooling - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Now go smoke another sinsemilla


AIn't that some shitsky ?

Carbon dioxide building up in the atmosphere was in no way due to the increased use of fossil fuels. It's nothing but pure narcissism to believe that puny humankind can have a single iota of control over global climate. Studies of the ice layers show that there were even higher levels of CO2 during times when no humans inhabited the earth. The idea of "man-made global warming" is just junk science.

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ok, so half a million years before humans even appeared on Earth CO2 was higher...what do you think this is evidence of?
The science is accepted by the vast majority of scientists, but I'm sure you understand the data better than they do.

You've been brainwashed by billionaires....wake up man!

 

[elektra]

CO2 is at a historic low!
CO2 is just a bit above the level that supports life!

When the politically-biased scientist cite the historical "record" they only look at .001% of Earth's history

 

[ColonelAngus]

When these lefties are more concerned about my Suburban than the air pollution from China and India, you know it is all bullshit grift for money and power.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

ok, so half a million years before humans even appeared on Earth CO2 was higher...what do you think this is evidence of?
The science is accepted by the vast majority of scientists, but I'm sure you understand the data better than they do.

You've been brainwashed by billionaires....wake up man!

Why won’t your paid alarmists discuss this issue publicly with atmospherics experts who dissent?

 

[wihosa]

wrong the conditions there have not changed what changed was the idiots in charge of fire prevention.

The brainwashing will wear off, if you stop injecting your mind.

Let me guess the lesbian fire chief doesn't know how t do the job she spent 30 years working her way up to?

Or the fire hydrants ran dry? Because like all fire hydrant systems they are designed to fight a structure fire or even multiple structure fires, but not dozens or hundreds of fires at once. Also when a structure burns down the copper water main melts and the pipe is open until someone shuts off the main at the meter. Few people think to shut the meter valve when fleeing a fire. Some people even leave sprinklers running when they flee, in hopes of stopping the fire. Hydrants and domestic water are fed by the same water mains so open-domestic lines reduce pressure.

 

[wihosa]

When these lefties are more concerned about my Suburban than the air pollution from China and India, you know it is all bullshit grift for money and power.

The brainwashing is strong in this one. Don't worry, you'll be fine! All you have to do is stop injesting the brainwashing .
Give it a month or two.

Brainwashed by billionaires

 

[ColonelAngus]

The brainwashing is strong in this one. Don't worry, you'll be fine! All you have to do is stop injesting the brainwashing .
Give it a month or two.

Brainwashed by billionaires

China and India do not contribute to climate change?

Explain that to the class.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The brainwashing is strong in this one. Don't worry, you'll be fine! All you have to do is stop injesting the brainwashing .
Give it a month or two.

Brainwashed by billionaires

Why would the brainwashers burn down their own homes?

 

[wihosa]

Why won’t your paid alarmists discuss this issue publicly with atmospherics experts who dissent?

The only ones who dissent work for oil corps. Hardly an option unbiased opinion.

 

[ColonelAngus]

The brainwashing will wear off, if you stop injecting your mind.

Let me guess the lesbian fire chief doesn't know how t do the job she spent 30 years working her way up to?

Or the fire hydrants ran dry? Because like all fire hydrant systems they are designed to fight a structure fire or even multiple structure fires, but not dozens or hundreds of fires at once. Also when a structure burns down the copper water main melts and the pipe is open until someone shuts off the main at the meter. Few people think to shut the meter valve when fleeing a fire. Some people even leave sprinklers running when they flee, in hopes of stopping the fire. Hydrants and domestic water are fed by the same water mains so open-domestic lines reduce pressure.

Dozens or hundreds of fires at once?

Huh?

The Palisades fire started in dozens or hundreds of places?

 

[wihosa]

If that was the case, we should have fried in the 60s as the air is much cleaner now than it was then.
You doomsday predictors have been wrong in every prediction. You are basing your theories on information collected over the past 70 years, LOL, a blink in the history of the earth. Wake up.

Poorly reasoned.

Smog reduces visibility because of particulate matter. Air pollution controls reduce particulate matter, a good thing., but CO2 is a clear odorless gas. It is a part of smog but only reduced partially by air pollution controls on vehicles and power plants. There has been a large increase in the use of natural gas, a cleaner fossil fuel than others, not producing the soot and other particulate matter found in coal and oil. It is a fossil fuel however and does produce CO2. So while our skies are clearer now than in the sixties, CO2 in the atmosphere is increasing.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The only ones who dissent work for oil corps. Hardly an option unbiased opinion.

That’s what Marxist alarmists always insist.
Shoe on entirely wrong foot.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Poorly reasoned.

Smog reduces visibility because of particulate matter. Air pollution controls reduce particulate matter, a good thing., but CO2 is a clear odorless gas. It is a part of smog but only reduced partially by air pollution controls on vehicles and power plants. There has been a large increase in the use of natural gas, a cleaner fossil fuel than others, not producing the soot and other particulate matter found in coal and oil. It is a fossil fuel however and does produce CO2. So while our skies are clearer now than in the sixties, CO2 in the atmosphere is increasing.

Plants are loving it.
Get back to your Frankfurt school.