Haaretz: Israel Ordered "Hannibal Directive" on Oct. 7 and Deliberately Killed Hundreds of Israelis

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The Hannibal Directive is another well-known psychopathic Israeli policy of killing both hostages and terrorists rather than letting hostages be captured and become bargaining chips. It could also be a convenient way to jack up the Israeli casualty count to justify genocide. Haaretz is Israel's leading newspaper

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Israel admits it killed its own at Nova music festival.
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IDF ordered Hannibal directive on October 7 to prevent Hamas taking soldiers captive
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Vehicles in the parking lot of the Nova music festival, two days after Hamas attack. Source: Haaretz


IDF ordered Hannibal directive on October 7 to prevent Hamas taking soldiers captive


IDF Ordered Hannibal Directive on October 7 to Prevent Hamas Taking Soldiers Captive

'There was crazy hysteria, and decisions started being made without verified information': Documents and testimonies obtained by Haaretz reveal the Hannibal operational order, which directs the use of force to prevent soldiers being taken into captivity, was employed at three army facilities infiltrated by Hamas, potentially endangering civilians as well


Jul 7, 2024

Gaza Division operations and airstrikes in the first hours of October 7 were based on limited information. The first long moments after the Hamas attack was launched were chaotic. Reports were coming in, with their significance not always clear. When their meaning was understood, it was realized that something horrific had taken place.

Communication networks could not keep up with the flow of information, as was the case for soldiers sending these reports. However, the message conveyed at 11:22 A.M. across the Gaza Division network was understood by everyone. "Not a single vehicle can return to Gaza" was the order.

At this point, the IDF was not aware of the extent of kidnapping along the Gaza border, but it did know that many people were involved. Thus, it was entirely clear what that message meant, and what the fate of some of the kidnapped people would be.

This was not the first order given by the division with the intent of foiling kidnapping even at the expense of the lives of the kidnapped, a procedure known in the army as the "Hannibal procedure."


Hamas terrorists breach the Israel-Gaza border on the morning of October 7.

Documents obtained by Haaretz, as well as testimonies of soldiers, mid-level and senior IDF officers, reveal a host of orders and procedures laid down by the Gaza Division, Southern Command and the IDF General Staff up to the afternoon hours of that day, showing how widespread this procedure was, from the first hours following the attack and at various points along the border.

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Haaretz does not know whether or how many civilians and soldiers were hit due to these procedures, but the cumulative data indicates that many of the kidnapped people were at risk, exposed to Israeli gunfire, even if they were not the target.

At 6:43 A.M., at which time rocket barrages were launched at Israel and thousands of Hamas operatives were attacking army strongholds and the division's observation and communications capabilities, the division's commander Brig. Gen. Avi Rosenfeld declared that "the Philistines have invaded."

This is the procedure when an enemy invades Israeli territory, upon which a division commander can assume extraordinary authority, including the employment of heavy fire inside Israeli territory, in order to block an enemy raid.

A very senior IDF source confirmed to Haaretz that the Hannibal procedure was employed on October 7, adding that this was not used by the divisional commander. Who did give the order? This, said the source, will perhaps be established by post-war investigations.

In any case, says a defense official who is familiar with the October 7 operations at the Gaza Division, in the morning hours "no one knew what was going on outside." He says that Rosenfeld was in the war room, not emerging, "while outside a world war was raging."

Hamas terrorists driving to the Erez crossing in southern Israel on the morning of October 7.

"Everyone was shocked by the number of terrorists who had penetrated the base. Even in our nightmares, we didn't have plans for such an attack. No one had a clue about the number of people kidnapped or where army forces were. There was crazy hysteria, with decisions made without any verified information," he continued.

One of these decisions was made at 7:18 A.M., when an observation post at the Yiftah outpost reported that someone had been kidnapped at the Erez border crossing, adjacent to the IDF's liaison office. "Hannibal at Erez" came the command from divisional headquarters, "dispatch a Zik." The Zik is an unmanned assault drone, and the meaning of this command was clear.

This wasn't the last time that such an order was heard over the communications network. Over the next half hour, the division realized that Hamas terrorists had managed to kill and abduct soldiers serving at the crossing and at the adjacent base. Then, at 7:41 A.M., it happened again: Hannibal at Erez, an assault on the crossing and the base, just so that no more soldiers be taken. Such commands were given later as well.

The Erez border crossing was not the only place this happened. Information obtained by Haaretz and confirmed by the army shows that throughout that morning, the Hannibal procedure was employed at two other locations penetrated by terrorists: the Re'im army base, where the divisional headquarters were located, and the Nahal Oz outpost in which female spotters were based. This did not prevent the kidnapping of seven of them or the killing of 15 other spotters, as well as 38 other soldiers.


Over the next few hours, division headquarters started putting the pieces of the puzzle together, realizing the extent of the Hamas attack, but missing the invasion of Kibbutz Nir Oz, which the first army forces reached only after the terrorists had left. Regarding the frequency of employing the Hannibal procedure, it seems that nothing changed. Thus, for example, at 10:19 A.M. a report reached divisional headquarters indicating that a Zik had attacked the Re'im base.

Three minutes later, another such report arrived. At that time, Shaldag commando forces were already on the base fighting the terrorists. To this day, it's not clear whether one of them was hurt in the drone attack. What is known is that over the communications network there was a message asking everyone to make sure no soldier was outdoors on the base, since IDF forces were about to enter and drive out or kill remaining terrorists.


The decision to conduct attacks inside outposts, says a senior defense official, will haunt senior commanders all their lives. "Anyone making such a decision knew that our combatants in the area could be hit as well."

But such attacks took place, it turns out, not only inside outposts or bases. At 10:32 A.M., a new order was issued, according to which all battalions in the area were ordered to fire mortars in the direction of the Gaza Strip. Internal discussions in the army noted that this order, attributed to Brig. Gen. Rosenfeld, was heavily criticized, since at that time, the IDF did not have a complete picture of all the forces in the area, including soldiers and civilians. Some of these were in open areas or in woods along the border, trying to hide from the terrorists.

At that point, the army did not know the number of people who had been kidnapped. "We thought they numbered dozens at that stage," a military source told Haaretz. Firing mortars at the Gaza Strip would endanger them as well. Furthermore, another order given at 11:22 A.M., according to which no vehicle would be allowed to return to Gaza, took this a step further.

"Everyone knew by then that such vehicles could be carrying kidnapped civilians or soldiers," a source in Southern Command told Haaretz. "There was no case in which a vehicle carrying kidnapped people was knowingly attacked, but you couldn't really know if there were any such people in a vehicle. I can't say there was a clear instruction, but everyone knew what it meant to not let any vehicles return to Gaza."

A new development occurred at 2:00 P.M. All the forces were instructed not to exit border communities toward the west, in the direction of the border, with an emphasis on not chasing terrorists. At that point, the border area was under intense fire, directed at anyone in that area, making it a danger zone.

"The instruction," says the source in Southern Command, "was meant to turn the area around the border fence into a killing zone, closing it off toward the west."

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One case in which it is known that civilians were hit, a case that received wide coverage, took place in the house of Pessi Cohen at Kibbutz Be'eri. 14 hostages were held in the house as the IDF attacked it, with 13 of them killed. In the coming weeks, the IDF is expected to publish the results of its investigation of the incident, which will answer the question of whether Brig. Gen. Barak Hiram, the commander of Division 99 who was in charge of operations in Be'eri on October 7, was employing the Hannibal procedure. Did he order the tank to move ahead even at the cost of civilian casualties, as he stated in an interview he gave later to the New York Times?

Over all the months that have passed, the IDF has refused to say whether this procedure was employed against civilians who had been taken hostage. It now seems that even if the answer is positive, the question may have been only a partial one. The actions of Hiram may have simply been congruent with the way the IDF operated that day....
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The source?

Is the NYT of Israel. . . The paper of record for the entire region

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That is the narrative. That is what the IDF is telling the journalists in Isreal.

Are you calling the IDF liars?


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IDF Ordered Hannibal Directive on October 7 to Prevent Hamas Taking Soldiers Captive​


The OP source you blabbering fuckwit.

Just"a senior IDF official stated ..."
 
The OP source you blabbering fuckwit.

Just"a senior IDF official stated ..."
Yoar name calling doesn't make your point any more cogent.

The OP's sourcing of that FACTS came from another source. . . just like places like, for instance. . Drudge.

If a member here, linked to Drudge, or Zero Hedge, which Limbagh used a lot, it does not make the story any less true. That is what is known as an ad hominem/poisoning the well fallacy, attacking the source, not the facts.

I am simply trying to tell your low IQ brainless mind, where the information originally came from.

And now that you know? You STILL seem to be too dumb to understand what the hell is going on.

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Yoar name calling doesn't make your point any more cogent.

The OP's sourcing of that FACTS came from another source. . . just like places like, for instance. . Drudge.

If a member here, linked to Drudge, or Zero Hedge, which Limbagh used a lot, it does not make the story any less true. That is what is known as an ad hominem/poisoning the well fallacy, attacking the source, not the facts.

I am simply trying to tell your low IQ brainless mind, where the information originally came from.

And now that you know? You STILL seem to be too dumb to understand what the hell is going on.

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Gfy. The source is Israel's "NYSlimes", leftwing... probably what you read and why you're fuckin stupid

Now run along
 
Gfy. The source is Israel's "NYSlimes", leftwing... probably what you read and why you're fuckin stupid

Now run along
My aim? Is to be logically consistent, regardless of the source of reporting.

If a source reports one thing, and then another, we take that at face value.

Now? You on the other hand, pick and choose what you want to bleev based on yoar politics.

If the IDF says a bunch of Mooslim terrorists burned innocent women and children. . . you bleev them. If that same source tells the same Israeli paper of record, THE SAME DAMN people, that it fired on those same innocent people?

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Well? You'll just pick and choose yoar own damn facts, and construct yoar own fucking reality, won't you? ๐Ÿคช


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The same people that run Israel also run Hamas.

If the 10/7 attacks were legit, they would have lasted 10 minutes. There was a stand down. Both sides are being played by the same masters.
This is interesting, and it is important to note, the only power in the region, whose military is stronger than the IDF, is Turkey, but. . . they don't dare do anything with the war going on so close to the Bosporus. That is probably closer to their strategic interests. It is almost like the Ukraine war and the Gaza war were purposely planned at the same time to put them in a vice. . .

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