Happy 4th of July......Dont forget to thank a Liberal

[DigitalDrifter]

Here is another that's unfamiliar with the Civil Rights Act of 1865, or of Senator Robert Byrd and which party or ideology persuasion he supports. Perhaps you should take the time to see where your beloved senator stood during that time in history before coming up with a response.

Ideology? You mean conservatives who were confederates and fought EVERY civil rights push?

They had Confederates in the 1960s? You're full of shit.

Not exactly, but the last widow of a confederate soldier didn't die until 2004.

 

[Clementine]

On the anniversary of our country, it is time to remember the greatest liberals of their day........our founding fathers

All men are created equal.....what a liberal concept

BULLSHIT! Liberals want us to go back to what our founding fathers hated.

The liberals are bringing back the shit that our founding fathers ran from in the first place. If any liberal deserves thanks, it's only because they prompted our forefathers to commit treason in order to escape the unfair taxes and oppressive government.

The right knows that we are all created equal and that is why we prefer to treat people that way. It's the left that puts forth policies that show their belief that minorities are not as good. They even want white people to feel guilty for being privileged. Only people who believe that whites are better would think that way.

Liberals want to force equal outcomes, which is impossible.

Democrats were against freeing the slaves and against equal rights for minorities. They never saw them as equals and still don't. They see them as helpless, ignorant being who need to be guided constantly.

Love the way you liberals are trying to rewrite history because you are ashamed of the past. You should be ashamed of the present, too. You can't keep patting yourself on the back for what you claim are your intentions. The results of liberalism are disastrous.

 

[Dad2three]

The MAJORITY of people that served and now serve are conservative, period.

I went to a well known liberal university, not one of my fellow ROTC cadets was a liberal, zero.

No liberal back in the early 90s was going to join the military from my university, a top 5 public university in the US.

You didn't serve, my point is made.

Given the majority of Vets and current military are conservative not liberal.....liberals should shut the fuck up about being better Americans than conservatives.

My 20 years in the military and my father's 22 years in the military....gives me the experience to know the make-up of military and their families.

You mean conservatives are more willing and compliant, therefore make up a larger portion of the military? True...

My Dad had 22 years also, grew up next to Ft Ord, in the Legion/VFW AND?

Various yardsticks suggest the U.S. military – or at least the officer corps, which accounts for 17% of the 1.4 million-strong active-duty force – leans Republican. But they’re not the monolithic bloc many believe.




Outsiders tend to think the U.S. military is made up entirely of blood-and-gut conservatives, à la John Wayne, but there’s little real evidence to back that up. When the Iraq war was launched, the consensus among U.S. military officers interviewed at the time was that one in three officers opposed it, suggesting they all weren’t gun ho.



“The officers by and large are more conservative,” says an Army sergeant just back from Afghanistan. “But the enlisted tend to be more liberal.”



But the U.S. military plainly tilts toward the GOP. That’s largely because today’s military is an all-volunteer force increasingly drawn from the Sunbelt, where the Pentagon has focused its recruiting efforts since the draft ended 40 years ago. And traits the military prizes — like aggressiveness and respect for authority — tend to be more pronounced in conservatives.

Does the Military Vote Really Lean Republican? | TIME.com


LIKE I SAID, COMPLIANT

 

[Dad2three]

On the anniversary of our country, it is time to remember the greatest liberals of their day........our founding fathers

All men are created equal.....what a liberal concept

BULLSHIT! Liberals want us to go back to what our founding fathers hated.

The liberals are bringing back the shit that our founding fathers ran from in the first place. If any liberal deserves thanks, it's only because they prompted our forefathers to commit treason in order to escape the unfair taxes and oppressive government.

The right knows that we are all created equal and that is why we prefer to treat people that way. It's the left that puts forth policies that show their belief that minorities are not as good. They even want white people to feel guilty for being privileged. Only people who believe that whites are better would think that way.

Liberals want to force equal outcomes, which is impossible.

Democrats were against freeing the slaves and against equal rights for minorities. They never saw them as equals and still don't. They see them as helpless, ignorant being who need to be guided constantly.

Love the way you liberals are trying to rewrite history because you are ashamed of the past. You should be ashamed of the present, too. You can't keep patting yourself on the back for what you claim are your intentions. The results of liberalism are disastrous.

Weird how you want to conflate party with ideology? Oh right a conservative CAN'T be honest because they've NEVER stood on the correct side of history in the US

False premises, distortions and LIES is the ONLY thing right wingers have today


Why Thomas Jefferson Favored Profit Sharing
By David Cay Johnston

The founders, despite decades of rancorous disagreements about almost every other aspect of their grand experiment, agreed that America would survive and thrive only if there was widespread ownership of land and businesses.

George Washington, nine months before his inauguration as the first president, predicted that America "will be the most favorable country of any kind in the world for persons of industry and frugality, possessed of moderate capital, to inhabit." And, he continued, "it will not be less advantageous to the happiness of the lowest class of people, because of the equal distribution of property."

The second president, John Adams, feared "monopolies of land" would destroy the nation and that a business aristocracy born of inequality would manipulate voters, creating "a system of subordination to all... The capricious will of one or a very few" dominating the rest. Unless constrained, Adams wrote, "the rich and the proud" would wield economic and political power that "will destroy all the equality and liberty, with the consent and acclamations of the people themselves."

James Madison, the Constitution's main author, described inequality as an evil, saying government should prevent "an immoderate, and especially unmerited, accumulation of riches." He favored "the silent operation of laws which, without violating the rights of property, reduce extreme wealth towards a state of mediocrity, and raise extreme indigents towards a state of comfort."

Alexander Hamilton, who championed manufacturing and banking as the first Treasury secretary, also argued for widespread ownership of assets, warning in 1782 that, "whenever a discretionary power is lodged in any set of men over the property of their neighbors, they will abuse it."

Late in life, Adams, pessimistic about whether the republic would endure, wrote that the goal of the democratic government was not to help the wealthy and powerful but to achieve "the greatest happiness for the greatest number."



http://www.newsweek.com/2014/02/07/why-thomas-jefferson-favored-profit-sharing-245454.html



Neo-Liberalism/Conservatives is/has destroyed the American Economy in favor of the so called "Job Creator"... In reality are "Job Exporters"...



Conservatives only seem to have one solution to any problem - make life harder for those on the bottom.

 

[Statistikhengst]

On the anniversary of our country, it is time to remember the greatest liberals of their day........our founding fathers

All men are created equal.....what a liberal concept

BULLSHIT! Liberals want us to go back to what our founding fathers hated.

The liberals are bringing back the shit that our founding fathers ran from in the first place. If any liberal deserves thanks, it's only because they prompted our forefathers to commit treason in order to escape the unfair taxes and oppressive government.

The right knows that we are all created equal and that is why we prefer to treat people that way. It's the left that puts forth policies that show their belief that minorities are not as good. They even want white people to feel guilty for being privileged. Only people who believe that whites are better would think that way.

Liberals want to force equal outcomes, which is impossible.

Democrats were against freeing the slaves and against equal rights for minorities. They never saw them as equals and still don't. They see them as helpless, ignorant being who need to be guided constantly.

Love the way you liberals are trying to rewrite history because you are ashamed of the past. You should be ashamed of the present, too. You can't keep patting yourself on the back for what you claim are your intentions. The results of liberalism are disastrous.

Weird how you want to conflate party with ideology? Oh right a conservative CAN'T be honest because they've NEVER stood on the correct side of history in the US

False premises, distortions and LIES is the ONLY thing right wingers have today


Why Thomas Jefferson Favored Profit Sharing
By David Cay Johnston

The founders, despite decades of rancorous disagreements about almost every other aspect of their grand experiment, agreed that America would survive and thrive only if there was widespread ownership of land and businesses.

George Washington, nine months before his inauguration as the first president, predicted that America "will be the most favorable country of any kind in the world for persons of industry and frugality, possessed of moderate capital, to inhabit." And, he continued, "it will not be less advantageous to the happiness of the lowest class of people, because of the equal distribution of property."

The second president, John Adams, feared "monopolies of land" would destroy the nation and that a business aristocracy born of inequality would manipulate voters, creating "a system of subordination to all... The capricious will of one or a very few" dominating the rest. Unless constrained, Adams wrote, "the rich and the proud" would wield economic and political power that "will destroy all the equality and liberty, with the consent and acclamations of the people themselves."

James Madison, the Constitution's main author, described inequality as an evil, saying government should prevent "an immoderate, and especially unmerited, accumulation of riches." He favored "the silent operation of laws which, without violating the rights of property, reduce extreme wealth towards a state of mediocrity, and raise extreme indigents towards a state of comfort."

Alexander Hamilton, who championed manufacturing and banking as the first Treasury secretary, also argued for widespread ownership of assets, warning in 1782 that, "whenever a discretionary power is lodged in any set of men over the property of their neighbors, they will abuse it."

Late in life, Adams, pessimistic about whether the republic would endure, wrote that the goal of the democratic government was not to help the wealthy and powerful but to achieve "the greatest happiness for the greatest number."



http://www.newsweek.com/2014/02/07/why-thomas-jefferson-favored-profit-sharing-245454.html



Neo-Liberalism/Conservatives is/has destroyed the American Economy in favor of the so called "Job Creator"... In reality are "Job Exporters"...



Conservatives only seem to have one solution to any problem - make life harder for those on the bottom.

 

[Dad2three]

On the anniversary of our country, it is time to remember the greatest liberals of their day........our founding fathers

All men are created equal.....what a liberal concept

BULLSHIT! Liberals want us to go back to what our founding fathers hated.

The liberals are bringing back the shit that our founding fathers ran from in the first place. If any liberal deserves thanks, it's only because they prompted our forefathers to commit treason in order to escape the unfair taxes and oppressive government.

The right knows that we are all created equal and that is why we prefer to treat people that way. It's the left that puts forth policies that show their belief that minorities are not as good. They even want white people to feel guilty for being privileged. Only people who believe that whites are better would think that way.

Liberals want to force equal outcomes, which is impossible.

Democrats were against freeing the slaves and against equal rights for minorities. They never saw them as equals and still don't. They see them as helpless, ignorant being who need to be guided constantly.

Love the way you liberals are trying to rewrite history because you are ashamed of the past. You should be ashamed of the present, too. You can't keep patting yourself on the back for what you claim are your intentions. The results of liberalism are disastrous.

Your 'quote' is bullshit BTW, he was talking about getting rid of the Gov't supported health insurance and instead forcing them onto the exchanges, without the subsidies they had received for decades, as COMPENSATION....

 

[PixieStix]

Let us declare January 20 (the day that Obama was sworn in as prez) as Dependence Day.

We could celebrate by giving free abortions and hand out condoms and birth control pills out like candy and then bill the people for all of it. Oh wait, we all ready do that everyday.

We could also have orgies and gay and lesbian parades and burn effigies of straight,white, Christian males. Wouldn't that be a hoot

 

[dilloduck]

Let us declare January 20 (the day that Obama was sworn in as prez) as Dependence Day.

We could celebrate by giving free abortions and hand out condoms and birth control pills out like candy and then bill the people for all of it. Oh wait, we all ready do that everyday.

We could also have orgies and gay and lesbian parades and burn effigies of white males. Wouldn't that be a hoot

 

[Freewill]

who said anything about democrats?

This thread is about liberals

that's an interesting point. At one time there were many liberal republicans in the gop replaced by moderates and finally tea party radicals.

that's an interesting point, at one point there were american loving patriots in the democrat party.

No. Really. There were.

i call bs.

 

[regent]

Given the majority of Vets and current military are conservative not liberal.....liberals should shut the fuck up about being better Americans than conservatives.

My 20 years in the military and my father's 22 years in the military....gives me the experience to know the make-up of military and their families.

You mean conservatives are more willing and compliant, therefore make up a larger portion of the military? True...

My Dad had 22 years also, grew up next to Ft Ord, in the Legion/VFW AND?

I remember well the close opportunity we had to vote while I was at Sansapor New Guinea. The Republicans fought the bill to allow servicemen overseas to vote. The feeling was, if the bill passed white servicemen would vote Democratic, as usual, and worse, Blacks servicemen would be allowed to vote for the first time.
There was also a rumor that there was a Republican in K company so a number of walked over to K company see what a Republican looked like. We didn't see any Republican just GI's like ourselves.

 

[Moonglow]

Think of a time when we actually had a class of people who were born to rule. By blood, they were considered better than you. They had more rights and they had a birthright to power. That was the concept of royalty

Our liberal founding fathers were appalled by the concept of royalty......conservatives of the day defended it

back then, if you weren't a land owner male, you weren't shit..

 

[Moonglow]

Given the majority of Vets and current military are conservative not liberal.....liberals should shut the fuck up about being better Americans than conservatives.

My 20 years in the military and my father's 22 years in the military....gives me the experience to know the make-up of military and their families.

You mean conservatives are more willing and compliant, therefore make up a larger portion of the military? True...

My Dad had 22 years also, grew up next to Ft Ord, in the Legion/VFW AND?

I remember well the close opportunity we had to vote while I was at Sansapor New Guinea. The Republicans fought the bill to allow servicemen overseas to vote. The feeling was, if the bill passed white servicemen would vote Democratic, as usual, and worse, Blacks servicemen would be allowed to vote for the first time.
There was also a rumor that there was a Republican in K company so a number of walked over to K company see what a Republican looked like. We didn't see any Republican just GI's like ourselves.

When you are in a fox hole and the enemy is pressing hard to kill you and advance their military, you don't give a damn about what the guy fighting next to you votes for..

 

[Iceweasel]

Why? We Founded the US, not some conservative garbage like you!

And you did it to found a place of tolerance and respect for diversity of people and thought, right?

BTW, when you say "We Founded the US," the founding fathers actually were not authoritarian leftists. Just thought you might like to know.

Nope the USA Founders were the MOST RADICAL LIBERALS OF THEIR TIMES

Conservatives? They wee the Torrie's/Loyalists, mainly (except for those Anti Federalists types)....

You morons keep repeating that trying to make it true. They were not big government types, even the federalists didn't want that kind of central involvement, nor did they expect someone else to fight their fight.

 

[Iceweasel]

Conservatives only seem to have one solution to any problem - make life harder for those on the bottom.

No, just the libs. We want them to leave and corrupt some other part of the world.

 

[rightwinger]

Liberal scum trash the US 364 days a year, then wrap themselves in the flag claiming all the glory of the US on the 4th of July.....because they are scum.

Actually because we're right. We understand the dfference between the flag and the people it represents

American ideals are liberal ideas........

 

[rightwinger]

And you did it to found a place of tolerance and respect for diversity of people and thought, right?

BTW, when you say "We Founded the US," the founding fathers actually were not authoritarian leftists. Just thought you might like to know.

Nope the USA Founders were the MOST RADICAL LIBERALS OF THEIR TIMES

Conservatives? They wee the Torrie's/Loyalists, mainly (except for those Anti Federalists types)....

You morons keep repeating that trying to make it true. They were not big government types, even the federalists didn't want that kind of central involvement, nor did they expect someone else to fight their fight.

In 1780 there were no big governments anywhere in the world. Especially for a struggling nation deep in debt and with no industry.

 

[Rozman]

Don't understand why we just couldn't wish everyone a Happy 4th of July.
Take 24 hrs to put the BS aside.

 

[percysunshine]

Don't understand why we just couldn't wish everyone a Happy 4th of July.
Take 24 hrs to put the BS aside.

I think rightwinger stuck the word 'liberal' into the original post. It was pretty much a free for all after that.

 

[GHook93]

[QUO TE=rightwinger;9382027]On the anniversary of our country, it is time to remember the greatest liberals of their day........our founding fathers



All men are created equal.....what a liberal concept[/QUOTE]

Thank a liberal? Lol, liberals support high taxes and big government, they certainly support taxation without representation. The liberal idol Obama doesn't lie the separation of powers, he like unilateral measures like a King. Liberals are the freedom of religion, they prefer persecution of Christians. Liberals don't believe all men are created equally, they believe the black and the Brown man are so stupid, child like, that they need their white fathers to take care of them. They don't believe all men are created equally. Lastly, they despise the founding fathers!

You should phrase it thank god liberalism wasn't dominate during the revolutionary times.


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[rightwinger]

[QUO TE=rightwinger;9382027]On the anniversary of our country, it is time to remember the greatest liberals of their day........our founding fathers



All men are created equal.....what a liberal concept

Thank a liberal? Lol, liberals support high taxes and big government, they certainly support taxation without representation. The liberal idol Obama doesn't lie the separation of powers, he like unilateral measures like a King. Liberals are the freedom of religion, they prefer persecution of Christians. Liberals don't believe all men are created equally, they believe the black and the Brown man are so stupid, child like, that they need their white fathers to take care of them. They don't believe all men are created equally. Lastly, they despise the founding fathers!

You should phrase it thank god liberalism wasn't dominate during the revolutionary times.


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