PLYMCO_PILGRIM
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Obama's record? You mean like 22 months of positive economic growth?
Divisive rhetoric? Asking millionaires to pay the same tax rate as their gardeners is divisive?
Inflation ?
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Golly, it's lower NOW that it was under Bush, huh?
The reason there are fewer net jobs is that government jobs have been cut, huh?
Added more to the debt?
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Bush's policies added 5 TIMES as much to the debt and what did we get for those tax cuts and Iraq? Oh, NOTHING!
Whining about the pre-bush tax rates? How about we go back to the top tax rates like they had under that PINKO COMMIE EISENHOWER and you pay frickin 90%? How'd you LIKE THAT? The rich have seen their tax rates cut from over 90% to under 35% today and you WHINE about having to give 3% back? Well, I guess as long as YOU get what you want, to HELL with the country, right? Good thing that while YOU were growing up, people didn't think that way or you couldn't have enjoyed all the benefits of government spending gave you.
Not passing job-creating bills passed in the house?
Boo hoo. Do you even UNDERSTAND how the legislative process in our country WORKS? Apparently not. If you want to pass your house bill in the Senate, you have to NEGOTIATE...not simply write what you want and demand they pass it.
Your ignorance on the issues seems to be boundless. Perhaps we would BOTH be better served if you went back and did some basic research into the assumptions you've put forth and see if they have ANY basis in reality other than being repeated ad nauseum on right wing radio and internet.
1) Your first chart shows the inflation RATE but the overall level of inflation is what I was referring to....things are roughly 20% more expensive from socks to milk to fuel.
For example, fuel prices under obama
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you can see the same results of costs of food and cloathing too
2) the 2nd chart also fails to include the wars in egypt/libya. It also doesn't include cash for clunkers, the 2nd stimulus (smaller one), the unemployemnt insurance extensions....amongst other things. Total dishonest chart, lame.
3) Yeah I'm whining about 3%, I make a 5 figure income, you know 10's of thousands in a year, not 100's of thousands or millions.....bush gave me a 3% tax cut, obama wants to give me a 3% tax hike on top of the inflation i'm paying under his leadership.
4) The republicans tried, they put up dozens of bills and got a couple passed but the presidents allies in the senate blocked some other bills that would have helped a lot. Its the truth, i'm not whining about the dems being obstructionist I'm just stating the facts
5) Your last paragraph leads me to believe you knew your information was hackish or else you wouldn't have needed to use insults to try and drive your point home.
Yes, you can definitely feel the squeeze when you go to grocery. It is painful. Wouldn't the price of fuel have a lot to do with this...I mean...along with the decline in the value of the American dollar. But the price of fuel for the trucks who haul these things to the grocery store. I'm sure this is a big chunk of it. So what is the solution? Drill here? Where? Is ANWAR the gold mine that we're waiting on?
Yeah the higher fuel prices are definately a big part of the problem IMO as is the decline in value of our dollar due to the fed printing too much money.
Solutions....now thats the trillion dollar question
Me personally I think investing in alternative energy sources while also investing in traditional fossil fuels (drilling anwar, offshore, fracking, and all that other stuff people legitimately don't like due to environmental risks) would go a LONG way to helping us.
I mean if we, as a country, start producing more of our own oil we will keep our wealth here instead of sending it to other countries to buy their oil and we will also create new wealth by tapping the resources.
I'm sure there are lots of other things to do, raising interest rates for one, reducing planned money printing is another.
What ideas do you have in mind?