I Believe It's Quite Possible That JD Vance Does Not Pay Taxes

[Billiejeens]

News stories: Many super wealthy have said the tax structure isn't fair and they can afford to pay more in taxes.

But they dont

 

[Harpy Eagle]

In some instances, yes.

It is far too common, and it should not happen at all.

 

[Billiejeens]

nobody is talking about child deductions, the topic is that Vance wants to use the tax code to punish those who do not have children

It makes sense actually.

 

[meaner gene]

Paying taxes is Patriotic, you commie bastard.

Actually it should be paying for services is patriotic. Whether done through income taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, or user fees.

 

[meaner gene]

It make sense actually.

Those without children are already punished by having to pay school taxes.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

JD Vance suggested America should 'punish' people for not having children

And you "suggested" we should do that to the successful.

 

[pknopp]

Those without children are already punished by having to pay school taxes.

Far less than an ignorant society would cost you.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Nobody has said taxes in general are punishing, just that they can be used that way.

OK, but it is the OP's claim I am using as my guideline.

It is not a punishment to pay taxes to maintain the roads I drive on.

It is if someone else is footing that bill for you...things like road taxes are the proper way to pay taxes for our roads, it actually makes my point... they are paid at the pump and you pay the same rate as everyone else, what could be more fair?

 

[meaner gene]

Far less than an ignorant society would cost you.

But you can see how much having children are already rewarded. From tax deductions, to free K-12 education for as many children as they can produce.

With that education paid for by mega-users, ordinary users and non-users equally.

 

[Billiejeens]

Those without children are already punished by having to pay school taxes.

Everyone profits from an educated populace.

 

[pknopp]

But you can see how much having children are already rewarded. From tax deductions, to free K-12 education for as many children as they can produce.

With that education paid for by mega-users, ordinary users and non-users equally.

I think that what is supposed to be the greatest country in the world should look after it's kids.

That's not what JD was going for though.

He just had this insane great need to put women down who decide not to have kids.

Creep.

 

[Billiejeens]

I think that what is supposed to be the greatest country in the world should look after it's kids.

That's not what JD was going for though.

He just had this insane great need to put women down who decide not to have kids.

Creep.

Why do you hate mothers?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Taxes were never based on how much work or effort went into making the money.

That's because it has nothing to do with paying ones "fair share"

A person working 60-80 hours a week to make $120,000 is taxed at the same rate as someone who does absolutely nothing and gets $120,000 a year from a trust fund.

Non sequitur

 

[meaner gene]

Everyone profits from an educated populace.

Everyone suffers from those children who grow up to be burdens on society.

Yet aren't responsible, but are still taxed to pay for it.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Your dementia needs to be addressed

I see you discovered your contradiction

 

[Frankeneinstein]

not every one believes taxes are punishment

Then I guess you don't see JD's claim as a punishment even if he does?

 

[meaner gene]

I think that what is supposed to be the greatest country in the world should look after it's kids.

That's not what JD was going for though.

He just had this insane great need to put women down who decide not to have kids.

Creep.

Women should be able to choose how many children they wish to have. To have as many as they feel they can successfully raise, or as few as they feel they can successfully raise. And most importantly choosing when they have or don't have those children.

 

[Crepitus]

I agree, those who can physically produce children, but don’t, should pay higher taxes.

"party of small government"

 

[Crepitus]

People without children use up less resources and do not produce criminals, drug addicts, mass shooters...

That's true, but they also don't produce the next George Washington or Carl Sagan.

 

[meaner gene]

That's because it has nothing to do with paying ones "fair share"

That goes to the heart of "fair share" That one should be able to benefit from the fruits of their labor. So to be fair, they should be able to keep, should be proportional to the amount of labor it took to make it. Since their labor benefits society.