I invite anyone who believes the admin's allegations against Garcia to read this article.

[berg80]

Abrego Garcia and MS-13: What Do We Know?​

On April 24, 2019—after nearly a month in custody—Abrego Garcia was taken to his removal hearing before Immigration Judge Elizabeth A. Kessler. His then-attorney, Chicas, applied for his release on bail. ICE opposed the application, arguing that Abrego Garcia presented a danger to the community because local police had identified him as a “verified” active gang member.

“I attended his bond hearing,” Jennifer writes in her declaration, “and was shocked when the government said he should stay detained because Kilmar is an MS-13 gang member. Kilmar is not and has never been a gang member. I’m certain of that.”

The allegation appears to stem from two documents that were introduced before Judge Kessler: a federal I-213 form (Record of Deportable/Inadmissible Alien), filled out by ICE, and a form generated by the Prince George’s Police Department, called a Gang Field Interview Sheet (GFIS). The latter had been entered into the Prince George’s Police Department database at 6:47 p.m. on March 28, 2019—about four hours after police met Abrego Garcia for the first time—according to Abrego Garcia’s recent complaint.

The government has not introduced either the I-213 or GFIS form in its defense of Abrego Garcia’s recent legal proceedings. The descriptions of those documents provided here are based on characterizations of them provided by Kessler in her ruling and Abrego Garcia’s current attorney in his complaint.

Apparently relying on the assertions of the I-213 form, which, in turn, apparently relied on the assertions of the GFIS, Kessler wrote: “The Respondent was arrested in the company of other ranking gang members and was confirmed to be a ranking member of the MS-13 gang by a proven and reliable source.” There is no factual evidence to support that conclusion.

But Kessler—even while crediting the government’s claim of gang membership—acknowledged that the two documents were, in at least one respect, glaringly “at odds” with one another. The federal I-213 form claimed that Abrego Garcia had been detained “in connection with a murder investigation,” while the GFIS form said he and the others had been arrested because they were “loitering outside of a Home Depot,” as Kessler wrote.

Kessler found that both documents were admissible in immigration court, notwithstanding the objection of Abrego Garcia’s then-attorney, Chicas, who protested that he’d not been permitted to cross-examine the detective whose accusations seemed to underlie both.

Abrego Garcia and MS-13: What Do We Know?

The allegation seems to stem from double hearsay in a document authored by a later suspended police detective.

www.lawfaremedia.org

I copied and pasted as much of the article as I think board rules allow for. There is more content worth reading.

Everyone can draw their own opinions. But at least they will be based on the facts. Not the spin the admin and RWM have put on the story.

As an aside, IMO, Judge Kessler she be disbarred for her grotesquely incompetent handling of Garcia's case.

 

[SweetSue92]

Abrego Garcia and MS-13: What Do We Know?​

On April 24, 2019—after nearly a month in custody—Abrego Garcia was taken to his removal hearing before Immigration Judge Elizabeth A. Kessler. His then-attorney, Chicas, applied for his release on bail. ICE opposed the application, arguing that Abrego Garcia presented a danger to the community because local police had identified him as a “verified” active gang member.

“I attended his bond hearing,” Jennifer writes in her declaration, “and was shocked when the government said he should stay detained because Kilmar is an MS-13 gang member. Kilmar is not and has never been a gang member. I’m certain of that.”

The allegation appears to stem from two documents that were introduced before Judge Kessler: a federal I-213 form (Record of Deportable/Inadmissible Alien), filled out by ICE, and a form generated by the Prince George’s Police Department, called a Gang Field Interview Sheet (GFIS). The latter had been entered into the Prince George’s Police Department database at 6:47 p.m. on March 28, 2019—about four hours after police met Abrego Garcia for the first time—according to Abrego Garcia’s recent complaint.

The government has not introduced either the I-213 or GFIS form in its defense of Abrego Garcia’s recent legal proceedings. The descriptions of those documents provided here are based on characterizations of them provided by Kessler in her ruling and Abrego Garcia’s current attorney in his complaint.

Apparently relying on the assertions of the I-213 form, which, in turn, apparently relied on the assertions of the GFIS, Kessler wrote: “The Respondent was arrested in the company of other ranking gang members and was confirmed to be a ranking member of the MS-13 gang by a proven and reliable source.” There is no factual evidence to support that conclusion.

But Kessler—even while crediting the government’s claim of gang membership—acknowledged that the two documents were, in at least one respect, glaringly “at odds” with one another. The federal I-213 form claimed that Abrego Garcia had been detained “in connection with a murder investigation,” while the GFIS form said he and the others had been arrested because they were “loitering outside of a Home Depot,” as Kessler wrote.

Kessler found that both documents were admissible in immigration court, notwithstanding the objection of Abrego Garcia’s then-attorney, Chicas, who protested that he’d not been permitted to cross-examine the detective whose accusations seemed to underlie both.

Abrego Garcia and MS-13: What Do We Know?

The allegation seems to stem from double hearsay in a document authored by a later suspended police detective.

www.lawfaremedia.org

I copied and pasted as much of the article as I think board rules allow for. There is more content worth reading.

Everyone can draw their own opinions. But at least they will be based on the facts. Not the spin the admin and RWM have put on the story.

As an aside, IMO, Judge Kessler she be disbarred for her grotesquely incompetent handling of Garcia's case.

He's a gang-banging wife beater.

You all sure know how to champion real winners.

 

[Anathema]

The MS-13 thing is a red herring in my mind. He wasn’t here legally, so he needs to go, immediately and permanently. Simple as that.

 

[berg80]

He's a gang-banging wife beater.

You all sure know how to champion real winners.

Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, accused Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia at a news conference of being “an apparent woman beater” and abusing his spouse, Jennifer Vasquez Sura. Shortly after Leavitt’s accusation, Vasquez Sura released a statement acknowledging that she had filed for an order of protection against him in 2021 but also saying that she never took the case any further.

“After surviving domestic violence in a previous relationship, I acted out of caution after a disagreement with Kilmar by seeking a civil protective order in case things escalated,” Vasquez Sura said in the statement. “Things did not escalate and I decided not to follow through with the civil court process. We were able to work through this situation privately as a family.”

Judges Challenge White House Over Disregard for Court Orders

www.nytimes.com

You're a real piece of shit. And so is Karoline Leavitt.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, accused Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia at a news conference of being “an apparent woman beater” and abusing his spouse, Jennifer Vasquez Sura. Shortly after Leavitt’s accusation, Vasquez Sura released a statement acknowledging that she had filed for an order of protection against him in 2021 but also saying that she never took the case any further.

“After surviving domestic violence in a previous relationship, I acted out of caution after a disagreement with Kilmar by seeking a civil protective order in case things escalated,” Vasquez Sura said in the statement. “Things did not escalate and I decided not to follow through with the civil court process. We were able to work through this situation privately as a family.”

Judges Challenge White House Over Disregard for Court Orders

www.nytimes.com

You're a real piece of shit. And so is Karoline Leavitt.

if biden had done this you would be defending him saying this guy is guilty...you aint fooling anyone berg...

 

[The Breeze]

Just a Maryland man bringing in more Marylander's, lol!​

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Biden administration flagged deported El Salvadoran as illegal alien suspected of ‘human smuggling'​

Biden administration flagged deported El Salvadoran as illegal alien suspected of ‘human smuggling'

Kilmar Abrego Garcia was stopped in Tennessee driving with an expired license and also was subject of a domestic abuse protective order requested by his wife, records show. Now she is making television appearances and participating in fundraising efforts, so far netting almost $200,000.

justthenews.com

 

[berg80]

if biden had done this you would be defending him saying this guy is guilty...you aint fooling anyone berg...

That's a pathetic whataboutism, even for a trumple.

 

[SeaMajor7]

This enormous struggle that the demented LEFT are campaigning has got to be the greatest example of the lack of self-awareness from these anti-American FREAKS.
By all means, CARRY ON!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[berg80]

Just a Maryland man bringing in more Marylander's, lol!​

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Biden administration flagged deported El Salvadoran as illegal alien suspected of ‘human smuggling'​

Biden administration flagged deported El Salvadoran as illegal alien suspected of ‘human smuggling'

Kilmar Abrego Garcia was stopped in Tennessee driving with an expired license and also was subject of a domestic abuse protective order requested by his wife, records show. Now she is making television appearances and participating in fundraising efforts, so far netting almost $200,000.

justthenews.com

Gee, what a coincidence. The trump regime fucked up, broke the law, is now refusing to comply with multiple court orders, so there's a smear campaign being launched against Garcia.

 

[Modern Messiah]

Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, accused Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia at a news conference of being “an apparent woman beater” and abusing his spouse, Jennifer Vasquez Sura. Shortly after Leavitt’s accusation, Vasquez Sura released a statement acknowledging that she had filed for an order of protection against him in 2021 but also saying that she never took the case any further.

“After surviving domestic violence in a previous relationship, I acted out of caution after a disagreement with Kilmar by seeking a civil protective order in case things escalated,” Vasquez Sura said in the statement. “Things did not escalate and I decided not to follow through with the civil court process. We were able to work through this situation privately as a family.”

Judges Challenge White House Over Disregard for Court Orders

www.nytimes.com

You're a real piece of shit. And so is Karoline Leavitt.

When you resort to mindless name calling and childish outbursts it means you have no facts or evidence to back up what you are saying.

 

[Modern Messiah]

That's a pathetic whataboutism, even for a trumple.

Your entire thread is a "pathetic whataboutism".

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

When you resort to mindless name calling and childish outbursts it means you have no facts or evidence to back up what you are saying.

Like your dear leader...............

 

[Modern Messiah]

Gee, what a coincidence. The trump regime fucked up, broke the law, is now refusing to comply with multiple court orders, so there's a smear campaign being launched against Garcia.

No smear campaign.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 Gang member with a History of Violence | Homeland Security

The mainstream media has peddled a sob story about Kilmar Abrego Garcia. The facts are he is an illegal alien from El Salvador, a MS-13 gang member, and has a history of violence.

www.dhs.gov

 

[Mac-7]

Gee, what a coincidence. The trump regime fucked up, broke the law, is now refusing to comply with multiple court orders, so there's a smear campaign being launched against Garcia.

You even quote the wife confirming that garcia beat her up in 2019

 

[Modern Messiah]

Like your dear leader...............

Again, with the childish antics.
You have nothing but mindless insults.
I find you to be shallow and pedantic.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Again, with the childish antics.
You have nothing but mindless insults.
I find you to be shallow and pedantic.

Like your dear leader.........................

 

[Modern Messiah]

Like your dear leader.........................

Again,
You have nothing

 

[berg80]

You even quote the wife confirming that garcia beat her up in 2019

You're delusional. That isn't what she said. But hey, I understand you guys would prefer to talk about allegations rather than facts.

 

[luiza]

Abrego Garcia and MS-13: What Do We Know?​

We know it is more Bugger 86 FAKE NEWS.

A novice Troll Bot that denies simple hard facts and therefore suffers from Mass Formation Psychosis .

Go seek Help, Troll Bot

 

[Mac-7]

You're delusional. That isn't what she said. But hey, I understand you guys would prefer to talk about allegations rather than facts.

Thats what she said then although she is changing her story now

Plus there is the news that Tenn police picked him up in 2022 and could have arrested him for possible human trafficking, but the corrupt biden FBI had him released