I phones suck....

[justoffal]

I've always been an Android man. For the brief time that I had an iPhone I found an impossibly difficult to access almost all of my favorite software.

Then every time you sneeze, laugh or fart Apple wants a nickel for it. Most of my stuff on the Android is free software....sure it comes with some ads here and there but I don't really mind that.

At one time Apple could boast the best peripheral connectivity for the various appurtenances but the Androids have caught up now and are just as easy.

For quite a while the Apple stock phones seem to have had a screen cracking disease. My grandson ( the one I raised) uses iPhones exclusively and for a long time we were at the phone repair shop once every 6 weeks or so for a new screen. That seems to have subsided partially because he's grown up a little and partially I think because Apple got a lot of shit over it.

Also having cut my teeth on Windows I can't stand Apple's data storage system. It seems bent on hiding everything from you instead of making it available. But that's just me.

For 3 years in work I had one Windows machine and one iOS.... I will say the engineering programs worked spectacularly well on the Apple machines.

Now it's all windows.

Jo

 

[White 6]

I like my Iphone. Never wanted to learn Android for phone use.

 

[Maxdeath]

I have had an iPhone for many years never had a problem or worry about those I had.

 

[kyzr]

I have had an iPhone for many years never had a problem or worry about those I had.

Same as me. But I only use the phone, text, and camera.

Young people have many more uses for it (apps)

It even told me when the battery was worn out and I had to get it replaced at the Apple Store. I'm impressed.

 

[Maxdeath]

Same as me. But I only use the phone, text, and camera.

Young people have many more uses for it (apps)

It even told me when the battery was worn out and I had to get it replaced at the Apple Store. I'm impressed.

I use a lot of apps on mine. I use it for email, scheduling, reminders, alarms, reading books, checking the weather, listening to music, I check on my banks, have my Medicare advantage and a couple of shopping apps.
I even have a couple of time wasting games and even have a few apps to watch programs on.

 

[toobfreak]

I phones suck....​

I can't speak to iPhones (or any smartphones) as I don't use them, but I use a MacPro.
Sounds to me you just are not learned on how the Mac OS system works.
Generally, the data and architecture is anything but hidden and tons of SW are free.
And because the system is proprietary, stuff written for it runs really well on it.
My MacPro is 14 years old and still going strong.
I run Windows on it as a 2nd OS and it runs better on it than an actual PC.

 

[justoffal]

I can't speak to iPhones (or any smartphones) as I don't use them, but I use a MacPro.
Sounds to me you just are not learned on how the Mac OS system works.
Generally, the data and architecture is anything but hidden and tons of SW are free.
And because the system is proprietary, stuff written for it runs really well on it.
My MacPro is 14 years old and still going strong.
I run Windows on it as a 2nd OS and it runs better on it than an actual PC.

I did like working with the Apple computers when it came to the engineering software. The 3D graphing calculator that runs on the Mac is a spectacular performer! It was always faster than the windows version.

 

[toobfreak]

I did like working with the Apple computers when it came to the engineer software. The 3D graphing calculator that runs on the Mac is a spectacular performer! It was always faster than the windows version.

Yep. My Mac is actually an engineering desktop and a RAID 5 that I run many things on including a SPICE engine, MATLAB, LabVIEW, things like that. Cellphones are little toys.

 

[justoffal]

Yep. My Mac is actually an engineering desktop and a RAID 5 that I run many things on including a SPICE engine, MATLAB, LabVIEW, things like that. Cellphones are little toys.

Ah....SPICE! Wonderful program. We're talking about the electrical engineering tool yes,?

 

[toobfreak]

Ah....SPICE! Wonderful program. We're talking about the electrical engineering tool yes,?

Well yeah, I was an electrical engineer with a bent toward electronic design. That was one of my main gigs when I worked.
If I wanted to, I could not only develop and design then test and measure my own electronic circuit, but the program will even figure out the best parts placement, planes, and circuit pathways in order to actually manufacture the working circuit board.

 

[justoffal]

Well yeah, I was an electrical engineer with a bent toward electronic design. That was one of my main gigs when I worked.
If I wanted to, I could not only develop and design then test and measure my own electronic circuit, but the program will even figure out the best parts placement, planes, and circuit pathways in order to actually manufacture the working circuit board.

Hah! That's actually interesting. I used it for the macro application! We designed. A power supply for a 6,000 horsepower air compression house that supported six 1,000 horsepower synchronous ring motors. I also used it to say no to the installation of a single unit 12000 horsepower AC drive motor to simulate jet engine thrust.

 

[toobfreak]

Hah! That's actually interesting. I used it for the macro application! We designed. A power supply for a 6,000 horsepower air compression house that supported six 1,000 horsepower synchronous ring motors. I also used it to say no to the installation of a single unit 12000 horsepower AC drive motor to simulate jet engine thrust.

If you are interested, you can try it. I have the original version written in the 1990s that included the circuit design layout for CAD program. Back then I think I paid something like $200 or $500 for the total package, but it looks like they still offer the program and might even have a free download, though I can't vouch for it now especially any free versions as I have not followed the changes over the years. My program includes a whole package of simulated electronic test equipment for designing the circuit, then measuring currents, voltages, waveform et al to see how it would work if actually built.

Electronic Workbench (EWB) 5.12 Free Download [2025]

Download Electronic Workbench (EWB) 5.12 for Windows and design, simulate, analyze and analyze electronic circuits without using breadboards.

electronicsworkbench.org

 

[justoffal]

If you are interested, you can try it. I have the original version written in the 1990s that included the circuit design layout for CAD program. Back then I think I paid something like $200 or $500 for the total package, but it looks like they still offer the program and might even have a free download, though I can't vouch for it now especially any free versions as I have not followed the changes over the years. My program includes a whole package of simulated electronic test equipment for designing the circuit, then measuring currents, voltages, waveform et al to see how it would work if actually built.

Electronic Workbench (EWB) 5.12 Free Download [2025]

Download Electronic Workbench (EWB) 5.12 for Windows and design, simulate, analyze and analyze electronic circuits without using breadboards.

electronicsworkbench.org

Nice! Thank you! Have since moved on to power engineering... But I do like to dabble! When I left that position I left the computers behind so this is a real boon for me!

 

[Leo123]

All the iPhones I have and and have now seem to work well however, I find their security to be burdensome. Their video and photo files are not very compatible either. The only reason I have an iPhone is because all my family has them. If Musk comes out with one with the same capabilities, I'd look into changing.

 

[sparky]

All i know is every device i own is smarter that i'll ever be, and has a female voice telling me so...... ~S~

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

I've always been an Android man. For the brief time that I had an iPhone I found an impossibly difficult to access almost all of my favorite software.

Then every time you sneeze, laugh or fart Apple wants a nickel for it. Most of my stuff on the Android is free software....sure it comes with some ads here and there but I don't really mind that.

At one time Apple could boast the best peripheral connectivity for the various appurtenances but the Androids have caught up now and are just as easy.

For quite a while the Apple stock phones seem to have had a screen cracking disease. My grandson ( the one I raised) uses iPhones exclusively and for a long time we were at the phone repair shop once every 6 weeks or so for a new screen. That seems to have subsided partially because he's grown up a little and partially I think because Apple got a lot of shit over it.

Also having cut my teeth on Windows I can't stand Apple's data storage system. It seems bent on hiding everything from you instead of making it available. But that's just me.

For 3 years in work I had one Windows machine and one iOS.... I will say the engineering programs worked spectacularly well on the Apple machines.

Now it's all windows.

Jo

I'm still got my pixel 8 pro
I broke the camera glass out in the woods ...but it's an easy cheap fix gonna do it myself

 

[justoffal]

If you are interested, you can try it. I have the original version written in the 1990s that included the circuit design layout for CAD program. Back then I think I paid something like $200 or $500 for the total package, but it looks like they still offer the program and might even have a free download, though I can't vouch for it now especially any free versions as I have not followed the changes over the years. My program includes a whole package of simulated electronic test equipment for designing the circuit, then measuring currents, voltages, waveform et al to see how it would work if actually built.

Electronic Workbench (EWB) 5.12 Free Download [2025]

Download Electronic Workbench (EWB) 5.12 for Windows and design, simulate, analyze and analyze electronic circuits without using breadboards.

electronicsworkbench.org

We ended up with a steam turbine instead of the 12000 HP monster motor. The local utility was like ...UM....NO! Would have had to build a free standing capacitor bank for initial start up load.

 

[toobfreak]

Nice! Thank you! Have since moved on to power engineering... But I do like to dabble! When I left that position I left the computers behind so this is a real boon for me!

Yeah, I did some plant power stuff, arresting lightning/protecting transmitters from lightning strikes, etc., then moved into global telecom, fiber, Alcatel, OC48, token ring, SS7, various pair-gain technologies, etc., but my real interest is in high end audio for music reproduction.

 

[Leo123]

Yeah, I did some plant power stuff, arresting lightning/protecting transmitters from lightning strikes, etc., then moved into global telecom, fiber, Alcatel, OC48, token ring, SS7, various pair-gain technologies, etc., but my real interest is in high end audio for music reproduction.

Ever dabble in guitar amps?

 

[sparky]

but my real interest is in high end audio for music reproduction.

educate us a tad then Toob.....~S~