Israel should no longer exist?

[Sherlock Holmes]

There are countries all over the world that exist mainly because some group of invaders conquered the locals and assumed sovereignty. Indeed this is part of the normal course of events. As has been documented extensively in the territory encompassing our own United States, the rulers have changed hands for thousands of years when one group of indigenous fukkers conquered another. But when the latest conquerors are Europeans, the same process becomes new and unacceptable.

There is no Palestine now, and there never has been a Palestine.

Unfortunately you're - how shall I put this - erm WRONG, firstly look at the 1922 Mandate for Palestine so how can there be such a document if the place didn't exist? Now look at this text copied from that document:

Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country;

In total "Palestine" occurs over sixty times in the document, therefore we can safely conclude that there was and is such a place.

and look

The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting anationality law. There shall be included in this law provisions framed soas to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews whotake up their permanent residence in Palestine.

There's the term "Palestinian" too. I can show you lost of examples of this from other historic documents, you need only ask.

If you disagree, name any historic Palestinian who existed prior to 1960. Military, government, artistic, inventor...forget about it. There are none. The Jews have a better claim on that piece of dirt than anyone else in the world.

Our own United States maintains the preposterous position in the "Holy Land" that the "solution" to the strife is two independent States, one Israeli and one "Palestinian." But there is a massive problem with this pipedream: NONE of the indigenous Arabs is willing even to countenance living alongside an independent Jewish State.

Fuck 'em. Netanyahu is fighting our battles for us, and proving that our fear of terrorists is disproportionate. They can be brought to heel.

 

[Mac-7]

Devine promises, you sound like a religious nutcase.

And you sound like a pagan

 

[ShahdagMountains]

As a side thought have you ever wondered why groups like ISIS and the White helmets are no show in Gaza and Lebanon? i think we know the answer and exposes who they work for.

Because the Americans got rid of ISIS.

 

[Mac-7]

That's an interesting but jumbled up opinion, does it have anything to do with the thread's topic?

Its on topic

Too bad for you that all the signs point to God as the reason Israel exists

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Its on topic

Too bad for you that all the signs point to God as the reason Israel exists

Biblical "arguments" for world events are fun but irrelevant, there are almost limitless ways to interpret the text. So there are no Biblical arguments for any of this only arguments about different interpretations. I'm no lightweight when it comes to the Bible, it's history, development, translation and so on. If you want to argue along those lines, start a thread and I'll be delighted to participate.

 

[Mac-7]

Biblical "arguments" for world events are fun but irrelevant, there are almost limitless ways to interpret the text. So there are no Biblical arguments for any of this only arguments about different interpretations. I'm no lightweight when it comes to the Bible, it's history, development, translation and so on. If you want to argue along those lines, start a thread and I'll be delighted to participate.

Against all odds and lib logic exists

 

[Deadstick]

Because the Americans got rid of ISIS.

they still operate in parts of Syria along with other Islamist groups from areas where the US has illegal bases, the Russians should have bombed those illegal bases a long time ago.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

they still operate in parts of Syria along with other Islamist groups from areas where the US has illegal bases, the Russians should have bombed those illegal bases a long time ago.

Never mind. You can’t help it.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The gentiles’ favourite Jew. It’s all they’ve got. As though that changes anything.

If you can find any factual errors in anything Chomsky says please share them here. If you can't then why are you complaining about him? just your usual antisemitism?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Here's Prof. Chomsky speaking at the UN ten years ago, he was invited to speak and spoke before 800 diplomats and politicians from all over the world. As I just said elsewhere, if you find a factual error then please say so.



Chomsky is very very intelligent and has an extremely good memory for details.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

For those who aren't very familiar with Chomsky, he debated William F Buckley, it's a classic and despite Buckley's considerable knowledge of foreign affairs and rhetoric he does not do well against Chomsky, here's the debate from 1969:

 

[ShahdagMountains]

If you can find any factual errors in anything Chomsky says please share them here. If you can't then why are you complaining about him? just your usual antisemitism?

I don’t believe you mean all this crap. It’s too overdone.

It’s just some ego driven game you play. A sort of social experiment. To wind people up. lol.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I don’t believe you mean all this crap. It’s too overdone.

I mean everything I say that's why I say it.

It’s just some ego driven game you play. A sort of social experiment. To wind people up. lol.

Rather than honestly answering uncomfortable questions you attack the person asking them, that's an ego problem right there.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

I mean everything I say that's why I say it.

Rather than honestly answering uncomfortable questions you attack the person asking them, that's an ego problem right there.

I don’t believe one word you say.

No problem here.