Israel steps up home demolitions to punish Palestinian attackers

[Boston1]

WOW, its hard not to notice that you really don't contribute anything. You just seem to use the forum to spread hate and lies.

Do you have so much as one shred of evidence to support this latest hate filled accusation.

Again AH, post my lies. You on the other hand do. Often.

Well the first of your lies we might address would be that last.

Maybe you can define genocide for us. The number of palestinian refugees has ballooned from a few hundred thousand to nearly 8 million. Does that look like a genocide to you.

Yet you mindlessly accuse Israel if genocide, when it appears you don't seem to know the meaning of the term.

The number of palestinians has INCREASED 16 FOLD since the end of the mandate period.

I think its pretty obvious we can chalk up that genocide lie to just another moment of racist and bigoted palestinian propaganda

The real question is, do you have the courage to admit when you are wrong

A Slow Motion genocide, seems apropos to me...Displaced millions, destroying their Culture, hold millions hostage. Rob people of their property and liberty. And you spreading lies that Jordan is Palestine.

Slow motion genocide.

"slow motion genocide"? Is that a new term to make up something that doesn't exist?

Funny you asked. Apparently I coined a new term: Slow Motion Genocide...when asked for some support for my view by the Boston Finagler, I found this;maybe this will help you bigoted zionuts.

Genocide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups.

This kinda pure horse pucky is exactly why Wiki isn't a great source. Any fool can post anything on there and unless someone with an actual education comes along and decides its worth their time. It quoted by the unwashed masses as if its fact.

 

[Boston1]

Its stacked because anti-semitism is still rampant in the world, and especially in Arab Muslim nations.

Israel is disliked for the things Israel does; not because of some religion.

Bullshit. Israel is held to standards that no other country in the world is held to.

The racists and bigots actually think Israel is obligated to maintain a hostile force in war time within their own boundaries.

The Geneva conventions are clear, combatants, suspected combatants and those who aid combatants or anyone suspected of threatening the state forfeits their rights as protected persons.

The palestinians and their descendants as a whole meet these qualifications and as such fail the refugee test.

I'll have to start a thread on this one since our local racists seem so confused on the issue

 

[Billo_Really]

Bullshit. Israel is held to standards that no other country in the world is held to.

And just what standards are those? Name one.

Actually, the truth is, standards are "lowered" in regards to Israel that genocide is legal; collective punishment is legal; attacking a ship in international waters is legal when Israel does it, to the rest of the world, it's called "piracy".

So, are you going to answer my question? Or puss out like Boston1 does all the time?

 

[Billo_Really]

The racists and bigots actually think Israel is obligated to maintain a hostile force in war time within their own boundaries.

The IDF can't defend Israel unless they're in it.

The Geneva conventions are clear, combatants, suspected combatants and those who aid combatants or anyone suspected of threatening the state forfeits their rights as protected persons.

The GC is clear alright, you cannot punish someone who did not commit a crime.

The palestinians and their descendants as a whole meet these qualifications and as such fail the refugee test.

So now you want to punish the unborn? Throw them in prison for a crime you say they'll eventually commit?

Dude, why don't you just take your own life and give this planet a break?

I'll have to start a thread on this one since our local racists seem so confused on the issue

The problem is always THEM, isn't it?

 

[Billo_Really]

Yeah, send in the Marines from planet Claire or whatever planet you live on! Cause US marines on planet earth will be 150% in support of the Israelis, not the 9-11 dancing Palestinians.

Now, here on planet earth, if the Palestinians don't want their homes to be introduced to the newest model of retrofitted made in USA Caterpillars, they better think twice about committing terror attacks on Israelis.

Fuck you and your "terror attack" bullshit. Shove that crap up your lying ass.

They're bulldozing the families of people resisting the occupation by force.

The ones resisting, they kill.

XXXX -- Excess personal flame..

 

[Challenger]

Hamas is an Islamic terrorist organization with zero respect for international law, which rules Gaza with an Iron fist dufus.

Zionist Israel is a terrorist state with zero respect for international law, which rules Gaza with an Iron fist ...dufus. There, corrected it for you....no need to thank me.

 

[Shusha]

Bullshit. Israel is held to standards that no other country in the world is held to.

And just what standards are those? Name one.

Actually, the truth is, standards are "lowered" in regards to Israel that genocide is legal; collective punishment is legal; attacking a ship in international waters is legal when Israel does it, to the rest of the world, it's called "piracy".

So, are you going to answer my question? Or puss out like Boston1 does all the time?

Let's start with the erroneous accusation of genocide. No other country in the world defending itself from attack and the murder of its people are accused of committing a false genocide.

From there, we can talk about how running a blockade is illegal. And how placing an arms embargo on a hostile self-governing entity is entirely legal and proper.

We can also talk about how Israel is the only country in the world expected to absorb a hostile population as part of a "peace" agreement. Israel is the only country in the world who is expected to reverse the deportations and flight from conflict that occurred post WWII.

Israel is the only country that has its goods labelled -- compare with Western Sahara or Cyprus. Apparently, Western Sahara isn't even occupied, its a "special situation". Why is that?

How about the only country in the world where a treaty specifically stating that it does not create borders, somehow creates borders?

How about the only country in the world who is blamed for the other side using child soldiers in their "resistance" -- rather than blaming those using the child soldiers?

And the only country in the world where people buying houses somehow confers some sort of sovereignty - not - sovereignty as though having an American citizen living in Canada is somehow a problem for Canada's sovereignty.

The only country in the world where a complete and total ethnic cleansing somehow wasn't ENOUGH?!

How about a country whose self-defense system is so good and so precise that it literally has the BEST combatant to civilian ratio in the world and yet is still accused of genocide?

Its the only country in the world who GAVE UP the RIGHT to pray on our own most holy site and gave it over to another religious faith? Do you understand that? We are attacked for visiting the place where the Shechinah rests. That is why we are being stabbed in the streets of our homeland -- because how dare we put our filthy feet on the holy place that was rightfully stolen from us. How is that right, or moral?

I can go on and on and on. All day.

 

[Challenger]

Challenger, et al,

OH, you are too funny.

Your cause has been lost for 68 years... it's over...

Did you know it took 123 years before Poland regained it's independance? "Lost causes" have a bad habit of being "found" again. Oh, and it's not over till the fat lady sings...

(COMMENT)

The Independence of Poland --- was a by-product of the Allied Powers success in the Great War (WWI). It was the defeat of the three Occupying Empires (Prussian, Habsburg, Russian) that permitted the (second) Polish Republic to reemerge. And it was the defeat of the Ottoman Empire that set the initial conditions for the establishment of the Jewish footprint in the Middle East.

The Treaty of Lausanne with the Allied Powers led to the international recognition of the sovereignty of the newly formed "Republic of Turkey" as the successor state to the Ottoman Empire.

Most Respectfully,
R

While you are laughing, you might take a moment to consider that the wheel of history turns, empires rise and fall, treaties are made (and unmade or ignored). Over those 123 years, Polish people suffered occupation, repression, attempts to eradicate them as a people, yet they prevailed; whatever makes you think Palestinians are any diffferent?

 

[Boston1]

I'm not surprised that the racists and bigots forward nothing but profanity and baseless accusations. Notice that there is NO supporting evidence for the accusations being made against Israel.

As far as the issue of collective punishment is concerned

see the new thread

The Geneva convention vs palestinian refugee status.

 

[Shusha]

Oh, and Billo_Really , how about the country where a news article concerning the brutal and vicious stabbing attacks and murder of two innocent Israeli women this week is described in the headline as an "exchange of violence" as if the women were complicit in their murders.

 

[Kondor3]

...While you are laughing, you might take a moment to consider that the wheel of history turns, empires rise and fall, treaties are made (and unmade or ignored). Over those 123 years, Polish people suffered occupation, repression, attempts to eradicate them as a people, yet they prevailed; whatever makes you think Palestinians are any diffferent?

The Poles are a distinct People, with their own unique and substantively identifiable language, culture, history, national identity, etc.

The Palestinians have none of those things.

They will eventually drift away to neighboring regions where they will be virtually indistinguishable from their new hosts within a single generation.

 

[Kondor3]

...Zionist Israel is a terrorist state with zero respect for international law, which rules Gaza with an Iron fist...

Fun, ain't it? Vae victus. Don't like it? Leave.

 

[Challenger]

...Zionist Israel is a terrorist state with zero respect for international law, which rules Gaza with an Iron fist...

Fun, ain't it? Vae victus. Don't like it? Leave.

I'll remember you said that when your turn comes around...

 

[Kondor3]

...Zionist Israel is a terrorist state with zero respect for international law, which rules Gaza with an Iron fist...

Fun, ain't it? Vae victus. Don't like it? Leave.

I'll remember you said that when your turn comes around...

Irrelevant...

 

[Challenger]

...While you are laughing, you might take a moment to consider that the wheel of history turns, empires rise and fall, treaties are made (and unmade or ignored). Over those 123 years, Polish people suffered occupation, repression, attempts to eradicate them as a people, yet they prevailed; whatever makes you think Palestinians are any diffferent?

The Poles are a distinct People, with their own unique and substantively identifiable language, culture, history, national identity, etc.

The Palestinians have none of those things.

They will eventually drift away to neighboring regions where they will be virtually indistinguishable from their new hosts within a single generation.

Palestinians are a distinct People, with their own unique and substantively identifiable language, culture, history, national identity, etc. Despite all the Zionist Hasbara to the contrary.

The Zionists have been saying the same thing for 69 years, and they're still there, fighting back as best they can, and in the background the wheel continues to turn inexorably...

 

[Challenger]

...Zionist Israel is a terrorist state with zero respect for international law, which rules Gaza with an Iron fist...

Fun, ain't it? Vae victus. Don't like it? Leave.

I'll remember you said that when your turn comes around...

Irrelevant...

Yes, you are.

 

[Kondor3]

...Palestinians are a distinct People...

Incorrect. They are a loose amalgamation of several resident and nomadic tribal clusters; some old, some very newly arrived, as history measures time.

...with their own unique and substantively identifiable language...

Quick... somebody notify the Language Department at the University... Challenger has discovered a new language... Palestinian...isn't that wonderful?

...culture...

Please identify several unique and substantive cultural elements that distinguish so-called Palestinians, as a whole, from their neighbors.

By the way... if you're unsuccessful, you lose the claim to a distinct 'culture'... and Achmed's local recipe for Fried Goat Droppings doesn't count.

...history...

They have a share of the history of the region; a region that they no longer control.

...national identity...

You can't have a national identify if you've never, ever been a nation.

...Despite all the Zionist Hasbara to the contrary...

Nothing to do with the Hasbro Toy Company... rather, logic.

...The Zionists have been saying the same thing for 69 years, and they're still there, fighting back as best they can, and in the background the wheel continues to turn inexorably...

Like a line out of Cool Hand Luke... ya'll keep coming back, with a handful of nuthin'... until you get knocked on your ass, anyway.

 

[Billo_Really]

Let's start with the erroneous accusation of genocide. No other country in the world defending itself from attack and the murder of its people are accused of committing a false genocide.

Israel is not defending itself. An occupational force cannot claim self defense. Israel is the aggressor.

How is shooting at Gazan fishermen self defense?

From there, we can talk about how running a blockade is illegal. And how placing an arms embargo on a hostile self-governing entity is entirely legal and proper.

How many times do I half to repeat myself? The blockade was punitive punishment for the results of Gaza's 2006 elections.

And that blockade punishes all 1.5 million Gazan's. That's collective punishment; which is a crime against humanity.

We can also talk about how Israel is the only country in the world expected to absorb a hostile population as part of a "peace" agreement. Israel is the only country in the world who is expected to reverse the deportations and flight from conflict that occurred post WWII.

You're not expected to absorb anything. You're expected to get the fuck off land that isn't yours.

Israel is the only country that has its goods labelled -- compare with Western Sahara or Cyprus. Apparently, Western Sahara isn't even occupied, its a "special situation". Why is that?

Western Sahara isn't using Palestinian slave labor.

How about the only country in the world where a treaty specifically stating that it does not create borders, somehow creates borders?

How about a country that has borders that look like sun spots!

How about the only country in the world who is blamed for the other side using child soldiers in their "resistance" -- rather than blaming those using the child soldiers?

If that country would end its occupation, their children won't be throwing rocks at you.

And the only country in the world where people buying houses somehow confers some sort of sovereignty - not - sovereignty as though having an American citizen living in Canada is somehow a problem for Canada's sovereignty.

You can't move into an area and automatically have more rights than the people already living there.

The only country in the world where a complete and total ethnic cleansing somehow wasn't ENOUGH?!

WTF are you talking about?

How about a country whose self-defense system is so good and so precise that it literally has the BEST combatant to civilian ratio in the world and yet is still accused of genocide?

Bullshit. You drop 2000 pound bombs that take out entire neighborhoods. You shoot at people fishing. You shoot at people farming.

Its the only country in the world who GAVE UP the RIGHT to pray on our own most holy site and gave it over to another religious faith? Do you understand that? We are attacked for visiting the place where the Shechinah rests. That is why we are being stabbed in the streets of our homeland -- because how dare we put our filthy feet on the holy place that was rightfully stolen from us. How is that right, or moral?

You're being stabbed in the streets, because Palestinian's are sick of your disgusting occupation making their lives a living hell for the last 60 years. The occupation is the reason for the violence. Stop blaming others for the shit you cause.

I can go on and on and on. All day.

The one thing you can't do, is protest your government's barbaric treatment of the Palestinian's.

 

[pbel]

Again AH, post my lies. You on the other hand do. Often.

Well the first of your lies we might address would be that last.

Maybe you can define genocide for us. The number of palestinian refugees has ballooned from a few hundred thousand to nearly 8 million. Does that look like a genocide to you.

Yet you mindlessly accuse Israel if genocide, when it appears you don't seem to know the meaning of the term.

The number of palestinians has INCREASED 16 FOLD since the end of the mandate period.

I think its pretty obvious we can chalk up that genocide lie to just another moment of racist and bigoted palestinian propaganda

The real question is, do you have the courage to admit when you are wrong

A Slow Motion genocide, seems apropos to me...Displaced millions, destroying their Culture, hold millions hostage. Rob people of their property and liberty. And you spreading lies that Jordan is Palestine.

Slow motion genocide.

"slow motion genocide"? Is that a new term to make up something that doesn't exist?

Funny you asked. Apparently I coined a new term: Slow Motion Genocide...when asked for some support for my view by the Boston Finagler, I found this;maybe this will help you bigoted zionuts.

Genocide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups.

Aha! So let's review the numbers again.

In the territory known as today's Israel, there was a total of about 300,000 "Palestinians" pre 1948.

Today, there are about 2 million Arab Muslim citizens of Israel with the same exact rights as other Israelis, plus another roughly 4 million in the West Bank cesspool and Gaza-hole, plus another God knows how many millions who also call themselves Palestinians outside of the three regions.

Looks like they multiplied like rats rather than undergo genocide. Either that, or they invaded from neighboring Arab lands. Or both. I'll go with option number 3.

Everything you say is a scum-bag wowdy lie. Palestinians have the same rights? Prove it moron.

 

[pbel]

...Palestinians are a distinct People...

Incorrect. They are a loose amalgamation of several resident and nomadic tribal clusters; some old, some very newly arrived, as history measures time.

...with their own unique and substantively identifiable language...

Quick... somebody notify the Language Department at the University... Challenger has discovered a new language... Palestinian...isn't that wonderful?

...culture...

Please identify several unique and substantive cultural elements that distinguish so-called Palestinians, as a whole, from their neighbors.

By the way... if you're unsuccessful, you lose the claim to a distinct 'culture'... and Achmed's local recipe for Fried Goat Droppings doesn't count.

...history...

They have a share of the history of the region; a region that they no longer control.

...national identity...

You can't have a national identify if you've never, ever been a nation.

...Despite all the Zionist Hasbara to the contrary...

Nothing to do with the Hasbro Toy Company... rather, logic.

...The Zionists have been saying the same thing for 69 years, and they're still there, fighting back as best they can, and in the background the wheel continues to turn inexorably...

Like a line out of Cool Hand Luke... ya'll keep coming back, with a handful of nuthin'... until you get knocked on your ass, anyway.

Sir Limp Dick you're as dumb as a door knob. Of course you can be a Nation without ever being a Nation-State. Go peddle your toilet paper and your ideas to a toilet.