Israel, the 51st State of the USA & then maybe not (a repeat thread)

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Israel, the 51st State of the USA & then maybe not

For all practical purposes Israel is America’s 51st State.
The US gives Israel 10’s of $billions of dollars each year and yet American Citizen’s did not vote for this.

What’s up?
I think it is time for a national vote on this.

Either we bring in Israel as our 51st State and they pay their fair share or we stop the $billions in handouts.

How do you vote-?

This report provides an overview of U.S. foreign assistance to Israel. It includes a review of past aid programs, data on annual assistance, and analysis of current issues. For general information on Israel, see CRS Report RL33476, Israel: Background and U.S. Relations, by Jim Zanotti. Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date, the United States has provided Israel $127.4 billion (current, or non-inflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received significant economic assistance.

BTW We, as in American citizens owe Israel nothing, nada, zip so I as---

In Jerusalem Israeli’s spit on Christians and the US press never reports it.

What’s up------?
 
Israel, the 51st State of the USA & then maybe not

For all practical purposes Israel is America’s 51st State.
The US gives Israel 10’s of $billions of dollars each year and yet American Citizen’s did not vote for this.

What’s up?
I think it is time for a national vote on this.

Either we bring in Israel as our 51st State and they pay their fair share or we stop the $billions in handouts.

How do you vote-?

This report provides an overview of U.S. foreign assistance to Israel. It includes a review of past aid programs, data on annual assistance, and analysis of current issues. For general information on Israel, see CRS Report RL33476, Israel: Background and U.S. Relations, by Jim Zanotti. Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date, the United States has provided Israel $127.4 billion (current, or non-inflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received significant economic assistance.

BTW We, as in American citizens owe Israel nothing, nada, zip so I as---

In Jerusalem Israeli’s spit on Christians and the US press never reports it.

What’s up------?

Israel's not the 51st State. They are just terror victims trying to defend themselves. That's why we support them. Well, we not being Democrats. Democrats consistently support evil. If you pick any given issue, Democrats will support the side evil is on
 
The US gives Israel 10’s of $billions of dollars each year and yet American Citizen’s did not vote for this.
Source? This is incorrect. Seventy-five percent of the current assistance to "Israel" has to be spent with U.S. contractors/industries. The annual gift to Boeing, Lockheed, Raytheon, Northrup Grumman, and general dynamics is 75% of that 3.8 billion. Hate who you want to but get your numbers straight. The day America turns its back on Israel will be the real beginning of the end for America.
 
Israel, the 51st State of the USA & then maybe not

For all practical purposes Israel is America’s 51st State.
The US gives Israel 10’s of $billions of dollars each year and yet American Citizen’s did not vote for this.

What’s up?
I think it is time for a national vote on this.

Either we bring in Israel as our 51st State and they pay their fair share or we stop the $billions in handouts.

How do you vote-?

This report provides an overview of U.S. foreign assistance to Israel. It includes a review of past aid programs, data on annual assistance, and analysis of current issues. For general information on Israel, see CRS Report RL33476, Israel: Background and U.S. Relations, by Jim Zanotti. Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date, the United States has provided Israel $127.4 billion (current, or non-inflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received significant economic assistance.

BTW We, as in American citizens owe Israel nothing, nada, zip so I as---

In Jerusalem Israeli’s spit on Christians and the US press never reports it.

What’s up------?
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Forget Israel,
I’d be happy if just half of leftists paid their fair share.
 
There are very good reasons why the United States supports Israel so vigorously.

The first is that America routinely takes sides with the underdog and that the Jews were the ultimate underdogs of the 20th century.

The second is that America was most affected emotionally amongst all the liberators of the Nazi concentration camps as WWII drew to a close.

The third is that the British had taken over Palestine from the Ottomans at the end of WWI under the League of Nations (United Nations) Mandate.

The fourth is that the British had promised the Jews of Palestine a homeland within their spiritual-ancestral homeland of Palestine when WWI ended.

The fifth is that the British reneged on their promise after hundreds of thousands of Jews had fled there before, during and after the butchery of WWII.

The sixth is that the Muslim-Arabs of the region were decidedly anti-Western and that Israel could be made to serve as an operating base in an emergency.

The seventh is that the Muslim-Arabs of the region have repeatedly promised to drive the Jews of Palestine-Israel into the Mediterranean Sea to drown them.

The eighth is that the Muslim-Arabs of the region control a great deal of fossil fuel and require a powerful regional superpower counter to keep them in line.

The ninth is that the Muslim-Arab nations of the region willingly jumped into the Soviet sphere in the 1950s and beyond and a beachhead was required.

The tenth is that the Jews of Israel do far more good with the land than the Muslim-Arabs of the region ever did or ever will do.

The eleventh is that the Jews of Israel have far more in common with The West than they do with Muslim-Arabs and the bonds of friendship are stronger.

The twelfth is that Americans will never again allow the Jews to be slaughtered the way that EuroTrash did in the mid-twentieth.

The thirteenth is that it pleases us to befriend and assist and stand alongside Israel.

The fourteenth is because the Muslim-Arab nations of the region have poured countless blood and treasure into wars with Israel and are now done with that.

The fifteenth is because Via Victus - Woe to the Vanquished - the Muzzies have lost and need to relocate to the East Bank of the Jordan.

There is no Arab Cavalry coming over the hill to rescue the so-called 'Palestinians' who have been rotting in refugee camps and towns since 1948.

Time to help the Israelis achieve their ultimate goal - the realization of the League of Nations Partition Plan for Palestine of 1922...

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A Muslim-Arab "Palestine already exists... it's called "Jordan"... and the Muzzies in Gaza and what little remains of the West Bank need to be pushed across to the East Bank as a permanent relocation.

With both Gaza and the West Bank entirely in Israeli hands, Israel becomes vastly more defensible and there will be no further "internal" disturbances.

And, within a generation or two of any-such forced resettlement, and decades of relative peace and the opportunity to live and grow elsewhere beyond the disturbances and violence of the present day, so-called Palestinians will be absorbed into Jordanian national life and cease to be an existential threat.
 
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Israel, the 51st State of the USA & then maybe not

For all practical purposes Israel is America’s 51st State.
The US gives Israel 10’s of $billions of dollars each year and yet American Citizen’s did not vote for this.

What’s up?
I think it is time for a national vote on this.

Either we bring in Israel as our 51st State and they pay their fair share or we stop the $billions in handouts.

How do you vote-?

This report provides an overview of U.S. foreign assistance to Israel. It includes a review of past aid programs, data on annual assistance, and analysis of current issues. For general information on Israel, see CRS Report RL33476, Israel: Background and U.S. Relations, by Jim Zanotti. Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date, the United States has provided Israel $127.4 billion (current, or non-inflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received significant economic assistance.

BTW We, as in American citizens owe Israel nothing, nada, zip so I as---

In Jerusalem Israeli’s spit on Christians and the US press never reports it.

What’s up------?
Israel does not want to be a state. Then it would only have two senators.
 
If you owned a business, how long could you stay open if you had to give customers 75% of the money to buy things at your store?

How much do you think Michael Jordan pays for his Nikes?

When you let a superstar use your product for free ... your sales grow exponentially around the globe.

There is no better marketing slogan for an arms industry as "Proven in Israel".

There is another incentive for the US to provide arms to Israel. It prevents Israel from competing with them in the global arms market. When France snubbed Israel by refusing the hand over Mirage fighters for which Israel had already paid, the Israelis built their own version of the Mirage V fighter (called The Nesher). After proven it's superiority against the Mig-21 in the Six-Day War (even when flown by Russian pilots) the Nesher outsold the Mirage V by a wide margin in the international market.
 

There is no better marketing slogan for an arms industry as "Proven in Israel".
There is another incentive for the US to provide arms to Israel. It prevents Israel from competing with them in the global arms market. When France snubbed Israel by refusing the hand over Mirage fighters for which Israel had already paid, the Israelis built their own version of the Mirage V fighter (called The Nesher). After proven it's superiority against the Mig-21 in the Six-Day War (even when flown by Russian pilots) the Nesher outsold the Mirage V by a wide margin in the international market.
Interesting take on the subject.
Thanks ... :cool:
 
There is no better marketing slogan for an arms industry as "Proven in Israel".
The only thing Israel has proven over and over is how to assassinate their rivals and murder children
There is another incentive for the US to provide arms to Israel. It prevents Israel from competing with them in the global arms market.
All the arms Israel has was "given" to Israel by the USA. Now it is time for the USA to take away the murdering machines given to them
When France snubbed Israel by refusing the hand over Mirage fighters for which Israel had already paid, the Israelis built their own version of the Mirage V fighter (called The Nesher)
The Nesher was/is a copy of the F-15 which the Israelis did not create or build.
Israel has NO industrial industry and their only exports are flowers, believe it or not.
. After proven it's superiority against the Mig-21 in the Six-Day War (even when flown by Russian pilots) the Nesher outsold the Mirage V by a wide margin in the international market.
During the six day war, this is how the Israelis showed their gratitude to America
The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on 8 June 1967, during the Six-Day War. The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two marines, and one civilian NSA employee), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship. At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish.
USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia
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The U.S. went broke just before WW2 supporting the British empire and later in WW2 giving money and aid to Stalinist Russia. As far as I know nobody voted for it and they certainly didn't become the 49th and 50th states. Israel is the one ally in the Mid East that we can depend on today. Why we support Syria and Egypt is anybody's guess.
 
Israel, the 51st State of the USA & then maybe not

For all practical purposes Israel is America’s 51st State.
The US gives Israel 10’s of $billions of dollars each year and yet American Citizen’s did not vote for this.

What’s up?
I think it is time for a national vote on this.

Either we bring in Israel as our 51st State and they pay their fair share or we stop the $billions in handouts.

How do you vote-?

This report provides an overview of U.S. foreign assistance to Israel. It includes a review of past aid programs, data on annual assistance, and analysis of current issues. For general information on Israel, see CRS Report RL33476, Israel: Background and U.S. Relations, by Jim Zanotti. Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date, the United States has provided Israel $127.4 billion (current, or non-inflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received significant economic assistance.

BTW We, as in American citizens owe Israel nothing, nada, zip so I as---

In Jerusalem Israeli’s spit on Christians and the US press never reports it.

What’s up------?
of course we voted for it.

we elected leaders that decide who gets foreign aid and who doesn’t
 
we elected leaders that decide who gets foreign aid and who doesn’t
As an American citizen at the age of 71, I did not vote for the following--
Arabs were not the “first” to engage in “terrorism”, The Zionists coined the phrase

November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.
July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem,.,.,killing or injuring more than 200 persons.
October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.
September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)
December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.
December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.
mber 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.
December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.
June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.
December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa ; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.
December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.
January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.
January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons.
January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.
February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.
March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured.
March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.
March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.
April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.
April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.
April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.
May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.
May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.
April 25, 1948 -- May 13, 1948. Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They stripped and carried away everything they could, destroying what they could not take with them.

Israeli intelligence service, Mossad, has confirmed that the Israeli art students were, in fact, part of a major Israeli intelligence operation and that they were conducting surveillance of the activities of the 9-11 hijackers. They also worked with the Israeli Urban Moving System employees in New Jersey who were seen in at least two Jersey City locations -- Liberty State Park and The Doric apartment building -- celebrating the impact of the first plane into the World Trade Center.

The Israelis at Liberty State Park were dressed in Arab-style clothing when they were witnessed celebrating the first attack. The FBI later confiscated a videotape they filmed of the first attack.
http://tinyurl.com/8ss8r7r

I add this--
The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on 8 June 1967, during the Six-Day War. The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two marines, and one civilian NSA employee), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship. At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish.
USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia

Google Irgun, Haganah and Stern gangs
Irgun - Wikipedia
Haganah - Wikipedia
Stern Gang | Zionist extremist organization | Britannica

BTW: The Haganah gang later became the Israeli Defense Force (IDF)
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we elected leaders that decide who gets foreign aid and who doesn’t
As an American citizen at the age of 71, I did not vote for the following--
Arabs were not the “first” to engage in “terrorism”, The Zionists coined the phrase

November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.
July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem,.,.,killing or injuring more than 200 persons.
October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.
September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)
December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.
December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.
mber 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.
December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.
June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.
December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa ; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.
December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.
January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.
January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons.
January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.
February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.
March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured.
March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.
March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.
April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.
April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.
April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.
May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.
May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.
April 25, 1948 -- May 13, 1948. Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They stripped and carried away everything they could, destroying what they could not take with them.

Israeli intelligence service, Mossad, has confirmed that the Israeli art students were, in fact, part of a major Israeli intelligence operation and that they were conducting surveillance of the activities of the 9-11 hijackers. They also worked with the Israeli Urban Moving System employees in New Jersey who were seen in at least two Jersey City locations -- Liberty State Park and The Doric apartment building -- celebrating the impact of the first plane into the World Trade Center.

The Israelis at Liberty State Park were dressed in Arab-style clothing when they were witnessed celebrating the first attack. The FBI later confiscated a videotape they filmed of the first attack.
http://tinyurl.com/8ss8r7r

I add this--
The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on 8 June 1967, during the Six-Day War. The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two marines, and one civilian NSA employee), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship. At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish.
USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia

Google Irgun, Haganah and Stern gangs
Irgun - Wikipedia
Haganah - Wikipedia
Stern Gang | Zionist extremist organization | Britannica

BTW: The Haganah gang later became the Israeli Defense Force (IDF)
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actually the french did during the french revolution

but yes the Israelites fought for their independence from British rule. Lots of other nations have as well

and yea if you voted for a senator or congressman you voted for them to speak for you about foreign aid
 
During the six day war, this is how the Israelis showed their gratitude to America

What gratitude? The USA had an arms embargo against Israel from 1948 until AFTER the Six Day War. The Six Day War was the THIRD time Israel defeated an invasion from combined armies of The Arab States and it did so this time by a huge victory. It did this without ANY aid or assistance from America. In fact, the US was openly antagonistic towards the Jewish State until it became obvious it wasn't just going to go away. America decided, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
 

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