Zone1 Jews confronted with Tanakh

[HaShev]

Lame argument, to claim the Bible (OT) is mistranslated from Hebrew.

Most Jews 2000 years ago were using the Greek Septuagint and that was considered the standard and accurately translated.

Translations are not the issue, Talmudic Judaism (which is newer than Christianity) just does not accept the beliefs of ancient Israelites.


As we’ve seen in many threads here, Talmudic Jews claim the Messiah will be a mere man, and not divine. Yet they can’t point to any text to back up this claim.

What are you talking about?
I always pointed to the answer to that with source:
Hilchos Melachim 11:3-4
and in Isaiah if I recall correctly Moshiach is a servant (not served). And out of the lineage of Aaron (a Kohanim)(a human)
in the scrolls: lQS lX, ll which seems to be fragment omitted from 4QSe(4Q259)

but this is common sense the head priest comes out of the gathering of Kohanim which in slang were called clouds for their puffy white robes appeared like clouds when gathered.

Hence Daniel saying son of man comes out or with the clouds(gathered hosts) and Theslonians saying with the call of the arch (top) angel (priest) to come up to zion to the gathering of priests (clouds).

And that gathering of Kohanim is to the temple (MIKdash) in the arch priests name, to the city that carries his and his God's name(God's description type name is not to be confused with a physical persona name because God is not a man nor form)*.
YeruShalem would carry the name. (1 Kings 11:36 &
in dead sea scrolls: Words of the Archangel Michael scroll 4Q529, 6Q23)
*Sources for God is not a man nor form:
"Isaiah 42:8 we can't pray to any image of anything physical- Exodus 20:3-7 and Deuteronomy 5:8-10
God is not a man nor form-(Isaiah 2:22, 14:13, I Samuel 15:29, Numbers 23:19, and Hosea 11:9, Deuteronomy 4:11-12 and the 13 major principles of the Jewish faith based on the Rambam's teaching of "ain lo demus haguf ve'ayno guf" -- that Hashem has no physical form.)

 

[rosends]

Most Jews 2000 years ago were using the Greek Septuagint and that was considered the standard and accurately translated.

How do you substantiate this claim? Judaism has relied on the Hebrew written text pretty consistently since before temple times and your claim that something is "considered accurate" is a judgment. The fact happens to be that the talmudic discussion allows Greek as a reasonable language in which to write certain texts but that doesn't mean that anyone's particular translation is "considered the standard" or "accurate."

Translations are not the issue, Talmudic Judaism (which is newer than Christianity) just does not accept the beliefs of ancient Israelites.

That would be your assessment of it. Judaism teaches otherwise.

As we’ve seen in many threads here, Talmudic Jews claim the Messiah will be a mere man, and not divine. Yet they can’t point to any text to back up this claim.

you have two problems here. Not only is there no text that actually promises anything different from a return to theocracy under a new human king (thus automatically invalidting any Christian reading) but there are texts that establish that any and every messiah was a human male.

 

[TruthNotBS]

O Lord, Who are my power and my strength and my refuge in the day of trouble, to You nations will come from the ends of the earth and say, "Only lies have our fathers handed down to us, emptiness in which there is nothing of any avail! (Jeremiah (Yirmiyahu) 16:19)

And..

"Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets."​

Amos 3:7 (KJV), clearly shows that:

1. God did not become a man, because He did not tell His prophets He would.

2. God did not supplant the Torah with a NewTESTament, because He did not say He would, and

3. There is no such thing as a second coming.

Christians practice a buffet religion! Their leaders pick and choose what verses they want and discard those that stand in the way of their pagan dead-man god religion. Ask yourself, why? Answer honestly!

 

[irosie91]

O Lord, Who are my power and my strength and my refuge in the day of trouble, to You nations will come from the ends of the earth and say, "Only lies have our fathers handed down to us, emptiness in which there is nothing of any avail! (Jeremiah (Yirmiyahu) 16:19)

try again----there are idiosyncrasies marking all languages---in hebrew---the term "nations" virtually always means nations other than Israelites