Lie by Lie: A Timeline of How We Got Into Iraq

i never got sucked in with the lies....i knew iraq was incapable of harming us, i knew we got rid of 97% of iraq's weapon in gulf war 1 and right following it....from some articles i had read. I knew the nukes, the mushroom clouds in 45 minutes was bullcrud from day one.

Right on! So did I. I remember doing a double take the first time I heard Bush make his 9/11-Iraq connection. I remember thinking, "Americans won't buy that, will they?" Well, many did buy it out of fear and patriotism as a result of 9/11. I believe in many ways our media let us down.


:D Have either of you ever considered running for the presidency, secretary of state, or [perhaps] as a Pentagon official?!

:eusa_whistle: I mean, your knowledge and foresight puts all the following officials (below) to shame.
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Quotes reproduce statements made by Democratic leaders about Saddam Hussein's acquisition or possession of weapons of mass destruction.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force ? if necessary ? to disarm Saddam Hussein because
I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.
He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.[/quote]

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The WikiLeaks Vindication of George W. Bush - RealClearPolitics - The WikiLeaks Vindication of George W. Bush


"In 2008, our military shipped out of Iraq -- on 37 flights in 3,500 barrels -- what even The Associated Press called "the last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program": 550 metric tons of the supposedly nonexistent yellowcake."



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Media Slow To Show WikiLeaks Justified Iraq War - Media Slow To Show WikiLeaks Justified Iraq War - HUMAN EVENTS


"A September 2004 New York Times op-ed by the former head of Saddam’s nuclear research program supported this, as well. He wrote:

"[T]he West never understood the delusional nature of Saddam Hussein’s mind . . . he lived in a fantasy world . . . . giving lunatic orders . . . he kept the country’s Atomic Energy Commission alive . . . Saddam fooled . . . the world . . . . [O]ur nuclear program could have been reinstituted at the snap of Saddam Hussein’s fingers."

Of note too is a January 2004 revelation by Syrian journalist defector Nizar Nayuf. He reported there were three locations in Syria where Iraqi WMDs had been transported prior to the 2003 invasion and were being stored. He also revealed some of these sites were being built with North Korean cooperation. This explained why three years later Israel attacked a nuclear facility being built in Syria by Pyongyang — and Syria’s subsequent failure to criticize Israel for fear of drawing further international attention to what Damascus had been doing.

Five years after Joe Wilson’s op-ed claimed no yellowcake was sold to Iraq — the ease with which Saddam could have snapped his fingers and reinstituted his nuclear program became apparent. In July 2008, in an operation kept secret at the time, 37 military air cargo flights shipped more than 500 metric tons of yellowcake — found in Iraq — out of the country for further transport and remediation to Canada."


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WikiLeaks Show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq – With Surprising Results - WikiLeaks Show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq – With Surprising Results | Danger Room | Wired.com


"By late 2003, even the Bush White House’s staunchest defenders were starting to give up on the idea that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

But WikiLeaks’ newly-released Iraq war documents reveal that for years afterward, U.S. troops continued to find chemical weapons labs, encounter insurgent specialists in toxins and uncover weapons of mass destruction."


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WikiLeaks docs prove Saddam had WMD, threats remain - WikiLeaks docs prove Saddam had WMD, threats remain :: Weekly Blitz

"The nearly 400,000 Iraq war log documents released by WikiLeaks on Friday were full of evidence of abuses, civilian deaths and the chaos of war, but clear evidence of weapons of mass destruction--the Bush administration's justification for invading Iraq--appears to be missing."

There are two falsehoods in that sentence, demonstrating the difficulty in trying to spin a clear fact. The Bush administration's justification for invading Iraq was much broader than WMD--in fact, it was similar to the litany of reasons the Clinton administration signed the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, which specifically called for regime change in Iraq as the official policy of the United States government (Iraq had repeatedly violated international law, Iraq had failed to comply with the obligations that ended the Gulf War, Iraq had circumvented U.N. resolutions, etc.).

"If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow," President Clinton said in February 1998. "Some day, some way, I guarantee you, he'll use the arsenal."

The second falsehood was the phrase "appears to be missing." In August 2004, American soldiers seized a toxic "blister agent," a chemical weapon used since the First World War, Wired reported. In Anbar province, they discovered a chemical lab and a "chemical cache." Three years later, U.S. military found buried WMD, and even as recent as 2008 found chemical munitions."
 
The WikiLeaks Vindication of George W. Bush - RealClearPolitics - The WikiLeaks Vindication of George W. Bush


"In 2008, our military shipped out of Iraq -- on 37 flights in 3,500 barrels -- what even The Associated Press called "the last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program": 550 metric tons of the supposedly nonexistent yellowcake."

This is one of the funnier ones. Do you know the real story behind that?
 
"In 2008, our military shipped out of Iraq -- on 37 flights in 3,500 barrels -- what even The Associated Press called "the last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program": 550 metric tons of the supposedly nonexistent yellowcake."

you are saying this is a fact?
 
That's funny stuff. Old, but funny...


:D Damn, look at you!

:D Not only are you knowledgeable in WMD, as well as who is/isn't in possession of them, but; you are also a speed reader!

:eusa_clap: You replied to my long-ass (fact filled) post in less than a minute!

:cool: You had to have read it, [seeing] as your reply seems to indicate it...you simply are AMAZING! :eusa_clap:




:eusa_whistle: I hope that you're a troll of the highest order, and you're enjoying yourself :)) i can respect that)-but if you're not → :eek:
 
oh ya dude, click it and read it means its true.

does it matter I have been in Iraq since 2005 till 2009? I mean, I was sort of there, my ass on the line. how bout you?

and you are gonna try and tell me you know more? im all ears.
 
The WikiLeaks Vindication of George W. Bush - RealClearPolitics - The WikiLeaks Vindication of George W. Bush


"In 2008, our military shipped out of Iraq -- on 37 flights in 3,500 barrels -- what even The Associated Press called "the last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program": 550 metric tons of the supposedly nonexistent yellowcake."

This is one of the funnier ones. Do you know the real story behind that?


Yes, i'm aware that the yellowcake material was known about (prior to the invasion), and stored in a nuclear research facility, however, while it was there, it was still under the ownership/control of the Hussein regime!
 
As I understand it, that yellowcake was discovered and secured by weapons inspectors at the end of the FIRST Gulf War under President George H.W. Bush.
 
you my fellow poster, are full of GOP shi!t.

give me a break, we had good intel on Osama and took him out. right? where is this yellow cake? oh, and whats the excuse for outing a CIA agent in the meantime? lol, again, im all ears.
 
oh ya dude, click it and read it means its true.

does it matter I have been in Iraq since 2005 till 2009? I mean, I was sort of there, my ass on the line. how bout you?

and you are gonna try and tell me you know more? im all ears.


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:D If you didn't like that link, here's another → U.S. removes 'yellowcake' from Iraq - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - Conflict in Iraq - msnbc.com
 
Keep mind, after the fact,

virtually every member of the Bush administration said invading Iraq was a good idea even if they had KNOWN there were no WMD's.
Keep in mind, after the fact, that Democrats kept on voting to fund the war even after no WMD were found.

WTF???? What did you want them to do? Defund our troops right in the middle of the war? Once BUSH committed us to war we had no choice but to see it through.

But that doesn't change the fact that BUSH and BUSH alone was responsible for sending our soldiers off to fight and die for NO GOOD REASON.

And anyone who still thinks it was a good idea needs to answer two questions......

1) What exactly did we win?

2) Was it worth the lives of thousands of American soldiers?
 
oh ya dude, click it and read it means its true.

does it matter I have been in Iraq since 2005 till 2009? I mean, I was sort of there, my ass on the line. how bout you?

and you are gonna try and tell me you know more? im all ears.

you my fellow poster, are full of GOP shi!t.

give me a break, we had good intel on Osama and took him out. right? where is this yellow cake? oh, and whats the excuse for outing a CIA agent in the meantime? lol, again, im all ears.


:lol: I hear ya, that seems to be a trait with your clique.

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oh ya dude, click it and read it means its true.

does it matter I have been in Iraq since 2005 till 2009? I mean, I was sort of there, my ass on the line. how bout you?

and you are gonna try and tell me you know more? im all ears.

you my fellow poster, are full of GOP shi!t.

give me a break, we had good intel on Osama and took him out. right? where is this yellow cake? oh, and whats the excuse for outing a CIA agent in the meantime? lol, again, im all ears.

:lol: I hear ya, that seems to be a trait with your clique.

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Yes, it is Bush's fault, and many are suffering because of it. Playing reverse psychology won't change that fact.
 
hey, come spend 5 months at camp anaconda in Iraq and see how you feel tough guy

I do have to admit, Omilli Banilli tag is sort of funny.
 
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lol, keep on doing what you do Oddball. just trying to baptize you with some smarts. Go on an blame this on your fictional version of the left.


Never have a group of American been so insanely misinformed, this current crop of Republicans dreamed up Iraq, and did a excellent sales job on bogus intel, ya, well done there homer. Im overseas right now, been in the sand box many times. you are clueless.

you should stop before you look like a compete loon. do it for American man, be a right wing patriot brah.

Republicans dreamed up Iraq? So there wasn't a law signed by President Clinton called the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998? 157 Democrats in the house didn't vote for it? Democrats didn't vote for the actual invasion, including anti-war poster boy himself John Kerry and the current Secretary of State Hillary Clinton?

Go back to clown school you idiot, or perhaps ballet.
 
hey, come spend 5 months at camp anaconda in Iraq and see how you feel tough guy

I do have to admit, Omilli Banilli tag is sort of funny.


Is camp Anaconda still active, post the Iraqi troop removal?

:eusa_clap: If you did serve, then i have nothing but thanks, and accolades to give!


:D


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krist! dude, I was enlisted then. I was sent to war by Bush.


are you people back home really going to argue this fact


whats sad is I put my ass in the line of fire for idiots like you. Ill say, sure does make me think twice now.
 

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