MIT solves two problems with new Covid vaccine

[scruffy]

The new Covid vaccine from MIT solves two problems at once.

First, it is a traditional vaccine, using dead virus, or at least parts of the dead virus that have been removed from the viral capsule. (In this case, the spike protein).

Second, it uses a scaffolding of DNA to prevent the cytokine storm from the immune reaction. The DNA is structured to "mimic" an intact virus, but does not elicit an immune response by itself.

Technically this invention is a new form of "particulate vaccine". It requires knowledge of the antigen conformation in advance. Which, in the case of Covid, was known 30 days after the outbreak.

DNA particles that mimic viruses hold promise as vaccines

Using a DNA-based delivery particle, researchers created a vaccine that can induce a strong antibody response against SARS-CoV-2.

news.mit.edu

 

[excalibur]

No, thanks.

 

[MarathonMike]

I would still say no. But to the Vax that makes my cells sprout spiky things, I still say HELL NO!

 

[luiza]

BUT
Apart from an absolute minimum five year test programme for effectiveness and safety , the concern would be about what company should produce .

Because the big four from the Covid19 Scam were all Deep State .

This is separate from enquiring which mutation of Covid this is supposed to treat and asking for an actual test that honestly reports its presence .

Current mutations seem just about equivalent to a nasty common cold and PCR tests remain the joke they always were .

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I would still say no. But to the Vax that makes my cells sprout spiky things, I still say HELL NO!

Well, maybe you should get a bit more informed and not make choices based on disinformation and ignorance.

 

[luiza]

Well, maybe you should get a bit more informed and not make choices based on disinformation and ignorance.

Interesting example of one of the"bitten" brigade trying desperately to bite back with their False teeth .

I wonder how long it will take before Deniers are subject to prosecution . Or ,a whipping in the town square .

Holocaust Deniers and then Covid 19 Evil Scam Deniers

 

[MarathonMike]

Well, maybe you should get a bit more informed and not make choices based on disinformation and ignorance.

I made my choice based on a lifetime of rejecting vaccines and in particular rejecting an UNTESTED EXPERIMENTAL vaccine. Worked out well for me, how many times did you get Covid?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Interesting example of one of the"bitten" brigade trying desperately to bite back with their False teeth .

I wonder how long it will take before Deniers are subject to prosecution . Or ,a whipping in the town square .

Holocaust Deniers and then Covid 19 Evil Scam Deniers

I'm not interested in your insanity, sorry.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I made my choice based on a lifetime of rejecting vaccines and in particular rejecting an UNTESTED EXPERIMENTAL vaccine. Worked out well for me, how many times did you get Covid?

This man got Covid once.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I made my choice based on a lifetime of rejecting vaccines and in particular rejecting an UNTESTED EXPERIMENTAL vaccine.

You have never been offered an untested vaccine.

Somebody lied to you and fooled you again.
So you made a decision based.on lies and ignorance. As I said.

And basing your decision on your anecdotal information and experience was also not smart.

 

[MarathonMike]

You have never been offered an untested vaccine.

Somebody lied to you and fooled you again.
So you made a decision based.on lies and ignorance. As I said.

And basing your decision on your anecdotal information and experience was also not smart.

Congratulations on participating in the largest experimental vaccine test group in history. LOL You probably got Covid twice like just about everyone I know who took the jabs.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The new Covid vaccine from MIT solves two problems at once.

First, it is a traditional vaccine, using dead virus, or at least parts of the dead virus that have been removed from the viral capsule. (In this case, the spike protein).

Second, it uses a scaffolding of DNA to prevent the cytokine storm from the immune reaction. The DNA is structured to "mimic" an intact virus, but does not elicit an immune response by itself.

Technically this invention is a new form of "particulate vaccine". It requires knowledge of the antigen conformation in advance. Which, in the case of Covid, was known 30 days after the outbreak.

DNA particles that mimic viruses hold promise as vaccines

Using a DNA-based delivery particle, researchers created a vaccine that can induce a strong antibody response against SARS-CoV-2.

news.mit.edu

And THIS TIME, it's really true!

Really!

 

[Robert W]

The new Covid vaccine from MIT solves two problems at once.

First, it is a traditional vaccine, using dead virus, or at least parts of the dead virus that have been removed from the viral capsule. (In this case, the spike protein).

Second, it uses a scaffolding of DNA to prevent the cytokine storm from the immune reaction. The DNA is structured to "mimic" an intact virus, but does not elicit an immune response by itself.

Technically this invention is a new form of "particulate vaccine". It requires knowledge of the antigen conformation in advance. Which, in the case of Covid, was known 30 days after the outbreak.

DNA particles that mimic viruses hold promise as vaccines

Using a DNA-based delivery particle, researchers created a vaccine that can induce a strong antibody response against SARS-CoV-2.

news.mit.edu

I have sent the above to my Dr. asking him for his advice. I hope this is true.

 

[scruffy]

I have sent the above to my Dr. asking him for his advice. I hope this is true.

Me too. So far it seems they tested it in mice. If it was "fast tracked" it could be ready for humans in a year or two

I'm kind of with MarathonMike on the testing bit, I would wish for "extensive" testing before widespread release. So maybe the year or two becomes more like five. (Depends if there's money to be made, right? )

But this seems very promising, it doesn't try to take over your cell's protein manufacturing mechanism. What would be ideal is if they could make individual vaccines tailored to your own DNA (because everyone's different, right? Even the genes that are supposedly common might be slightly different).

Otherwise the downside is the external DNA splits off and become plasmids (ecDNA) in your own cells, and suddenly you have the same problem as the RNA vaccines. I don't know enough about intracellular immunology to tell you if the external DNA would be attacked and destroyed, the fact that it doesn't elicit an immune response would seem to indicate not - but if not it would also seem to indicate recognition and harmlessness.

Good call on the doctor, we need lots of eyes on stuff like this

 

[Robert W]

Me too. So far it seems they tested it in mice. If it was "fast tracked" it could be ready for humans in a year or two

I'm kind of with MarathonMike on the testing bit, I would wish for "extensive" testing before widespread release. So maybe the year or two becomes more like five. (Depends if there's money to be made, right? )

But this seems very promising, it doesn't try to take over your cell's protein manufacturing mechanism. What would be ideal is if they could make individual vaccines tailored to your own DNA (because everyone's different, right? Even the genes that are supposedly common might be slightly different).

Otherwise the downside is the external DNA splits off and become plasmids (ecDNA) in your own cells, and suddenly you have the same problem as the RNA vaccines. I don't know enough about intracellular immunology to tell you if the external DNA would be attacked and destroyed, the fact that it doesn't elicit an immune response would seem to indicate not - but if not it would also seem to indicate recognition and harmlessness.

Good call on the doctor, we need lots of eyes on stuff like this

I checked moments ago and my doctor has not yet replied about this. I am very ignorant when it comes to medicine. My daughter is a registered nurse so I get to talk things over with her and she adds to my knowledge.