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FIYA....I've had two doses of Pfizer's vaccine with no ill effects YET......
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New Analysis: Pfizer Vaccine Killed ‘About 40 Times More Elderly Than the Disease Itself Would Have Killed’
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Big surprise here? Not really. If you will remember, the groups mentioned in the article are known right wing political organizations that have opposed masking, distancing, temporary shut downs, basically anything that is being and has been used to slow the spread of the disease, and now oppose vaccines, yet they supported hydroxychloroquine, Zithromax, and zinc as cures without peer reviewed science, as none existed. It should be noted that trump supported much of the same, yet when he came down with Covid, he went with cutting edge science, not the populous tripe he had dished out and was secretly vaccinated in early January himself. It further proves, you can talk all kinds of crazy crap for political purposes, but if your own ass is on the line, even the half intelligent go with modern medicine, on the theory of screw the dumb ass masses, as they will believe anything, are useful puppets and unworthy just by their willingness to believe crap to deserve the truth and science the upper echelon of the radical right actually use for themselves and their families. Good luck, suckers!Don't trust conspiracy theorists siting in Israeli Health Ministry, only Merkel, Biden, Putin, Macron & Co saying the truth! Enjoy your jab and.....die!
A re-analysis of data from the Israeli Health Ministry concluded Pfizer’s COVID vaccine killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period, and 260 times more younger people than would have died from the virus.
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Slade3200
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So to be clear, you are trusting Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting Systems VAERS as a reliable source?! Is that right? Have you looked into their org and how they are getting their numbers?How do you know people are dying from the Vaccine?Don't trust conspiracy theorists siting in Israeli Health Ministry, only Merkel, Biden, Putin, Macron & Co saying the truth! Enjoy your jab and.....die!
A re-analysis of data from the Israeli Health Ministry concluded Pfizer’s COVID vaccine killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period, and 260 times more younger people than would have died from the virus.
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Read until I saw "America's Frontline Doctors". Full stop. Not to be taken seriously. No group of any note or repute is claiming this.
Same bunch of quacks...just Israeli. Take and bend the facts to suit your own narrative....dismissed.
UPDATED: The headline and excerpt have been updated due to an error that improperly identified the authors of the re-analysis as the Israeli Health Ministry.
The fact is peoples dying in huge amount after the jab in all countries, and it's just the beginning
Fueri
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Well, who knows the pharma companies sure don't.
We've had vaccines pushed through by multiple companies without typical phase testing over time. There has been no time to do cross studies on relative efficacy and/or side effects to determine which is a better option as these things are rushed to market.
These companies don't know the effects and have been indemnified from any liability in the deal, so there is no downside to ill effects and every motivation to get to market ASAP to suck up the money.
This feeding frenzy is not an atmosphere in which Pharma companies, which are notoriously greedy bastards that have been known to flat out lie and/or massage data to bring products to market, are going to be cautious, making not seeing some adverse effects pretty improbable, given the number of players in the game at this point, and the lack of these typical safeguards.
We've had vaccines pushed through by multiple companies without typical phase testing over time. There has been no time to do cross studies on relative efficacy and/or side effects to determine which is a better option as these things are rushed to market.
These companies don't know the effects and have been indemnified from any liability in the deal, so there is no downside to ill effects and every motivation to get to market ASAP to suck up the money.
This feeding frenzy is not an atmosphere in which Pharma companies, which are notoriously greedy bastards that have been known to flat out lie and/or massage data to bring products to market, are going to be cautious, making not seeing some adverse effects pretty improbable, given the number of players in the game at this point, and the lack of these typical safeguards.
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Its becoming apparent that some elderly people with co morbidities can die from the booster shot...more testing needed in their age group...
And governements are glad
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Don't trust conspiracy theorists siting in Israeli Health Ministry, only Merkel, Biden, Putin, Macron & Co saying the truth! Enjoy your jab and.....die!
A re-analysis of data from the Israeli Health Ministry concluded Pfizer’s COVID vaccine killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period, and 260 times more younger people than would have died from the virus.
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I've ha two doses of Pfizer's vaccine with no ill effects. Are you a mental patient?
Yep, I'm a mental patient.
It's better to be one as to be walking dead who accepted the jab
Rigby5
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Don't trust conspiracy theorists siting in Israeli Health Ministry, only Merkel, Biden, Putin, Macron & Co saying the truth! Enjoy your jab and.....die!
A re-analysis of data from the Israeli Health Ministry concluded Pfizer’s COVID vaccine killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period, and 260 times more younger people than would have died from the virus.
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I've ha two doses of Pfizer's vaccine with no ill effects. Are you a mental patient?
Believe me, you likely were just lucky.
The 2nd Moderna shot has me with fever, heachache and weakness for 2 weeks now.
Started 12 hours after the shot, with chills, convulsive shivering, ice cold hands and feet.
Throwing up ever 4 hours for a day.
Listen to the inventor of mRNA vaccines on what went wrong.
FIYA....I've had two doses of Pfizer's vaccine with no ill effects YET......I've ha two doses of Pfizer's vaccine with no ill effects. Are you a mental patient?
Me too.
Rigby5
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How do you know people are dying from the Vaccine?Don't trust conspiracy theorists siting in Israeli Health Ministry, only Merkel, Biden, Putin, Macron & Co saying the truth! Enjoy your jab and.....die!
A re-analysis of data from the Israeli Health Ministry concluded Pfizer’s COVID vaccine killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period, and 260 times more younger people than would have died from the virus.
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Sorry! This content is no longer available. We determined that there was a lack of clarity and support for the findings mentioned in the article. For more news stories, visit The Defender homepage.
Read until I saw "America's Frontline Doctors". Full stop. Not to be taken seriously. No group of any note or repute is claiming this.
Same bunch of quacks...just Israeli. Take and bend the facts to suit your own narrative....dismissed.
UPDATED: The headline and excerpt have been updated due to an error that improperly identified the authors of the re-analysis as the Israeli Health Ministry.
The fact is peoples dying in huge amount after the jab in all countries, and it's just the beginning
From the CDC link.
"To date, VAERS has not detected patterns in cause of death that would indicate a safety problem with COVID-19 vaccines".
COVID-19 Vaccination
COVID-19 vaccines protect against COVID-19. Get safety info and more.www.cdc.gov
Dismissed!!
Wrong.
The inventor of mRNA vaccines says the covid-19 vaccines are fatally flawed and should not be used.
Slade3200
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Wrong.How do you know people are dying from the Vaccine?Don't trust conspiracy theorists siting in Israeli Health Ministry, only Merkel, Biden, Putin, Macron & Co saying the truth! Enjoy your jab and.....die!
A re-analysis of data from the Israeli Health Ministry concluded Pfizer’s COVID vaccine killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period, and 260 times more younger people than would have died from the virus.
This content is no longer available.
Sorry! This content is no longer available. We determined that there was a lack of clarity and support for the findings mentioned in the article. For more news stories, visit The Defender homepage.
Read until I saw "America's Frontline Doctors". Full stop. Not to be taken seriously. No group of any note or repute is claiming this.
Same bunch of quacks...just Israeli. Take and bend the facts to suit your own narrative....dismissed.
UPDATED: The headline and excerpt have been updated due to an error that improperly identified the authors of the re-analysis as the Israeli Health Ministry.
The fact is peoples dying in huge amount after the jab in all countries, and it's just the beginning
From the CDC link.
"To date, VAERS has not detected patterns in cause of death that would indicate a safety problem with COVID-19 vaccines".
COVID-19 Vaccination
COVID-19 vaccines protect against COVID-19. Get safety info and more.
Dismissed!!
The inventor of mRNA vaccines says the covid-19 vaccines are fatally flawed and should not be used.
You think Malone invented mRNA?! Why do you believe that? Have you actually looked into it?
Skylar
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Don't trust conspiracy theorists siting in Israeli Health Ministry, only Merkel, Biden, Putin, Macron & Co saying the truth! Enjoy your jab and.....die!
A re-analysis of data from the Israeli Health Ministry concluded Pfizer’s COVID vaccine killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period, and 260 times more younger people than would have died from the virus.
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A re-analysis......by who?
Your link is dead. So there's not much to go on.
JustAGuy1
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Don't trust conspiracy theorists siting in Israeli Health Ministry, only Merkel, Biden, Putin, Macron & Co saying the truth! Enjoy your jab and.....die!
A re-analysis of data from the Israeli Health Ministry concluded Pfizer’s COVID vaccine killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period, and 260 times more younger people than would have died from the virus.
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Sorry! This content is no longer available. We determined that there was a lack of clarity and support for the findings mentioned in the article. For more news stories, visit The Defender homepage.
Read until I saw "America's Frontline Doctors". Full stop. Not to be taken seriously. No group of any note or repute is claiming this.
Same bunch of quacks...just Israeli. Take and bend the facts to suit your own narrative....dismissed.
UPDATED: The headline and excerpt have been updated due to an error that improperly identified the authors of the re-analysis as the Israeli Health Ministry.
The fact is peoples dying in huge amount after the jab in all countries, and it's just the beginning
No. They aren't. If they were, the vaccines would have been pulled..immediately. That's how it works. The article you linked is just more alt-right pablum. Again...dismissed.
Nearly Three Months Out, We Have A Clear Picture Of COVID-19 Vaccine Safety
After tens of millions of shots, there has been no significant increase in the risk for adverse consequences. And the early data on pregnant women look good, too.gothamist.com
It's your business
Well, you posted it. And it's already been debunked.
Claims Pfizer's vaccine is more dangerous than COVID-19 itself debunked
Anti-vaccination activists are falsely claiming the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is killing more people than its saving.www.newshub.co.nz
Your "Nuh-Uh" debunked it? Too funny.
Don't trust conspiracy theorists siting in Israeli Health Ministry, only Merkel, Biden, Putin, Macron & Co saying the truth! Enjoy your jab and.....die!
A re-analysis of data from the Israeli Health Ministry concluded Pfizer’s COVID vaccine killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period, and 260 times more younger people than would have died from the virus.
This content is no longer available.
Sorry! This content is no longer available. We determined that there was a lack of clarity and support for the findings mentioned in the article. For more news stories, visit The Defender homepage.
Read until I saw "America's Frontline Doctors". Full stop. Not to be taken seriously. No group of any note or repute is claiming this.
Same bunch of quacks...just Israeli. Take and bend the facts to suit your own narrative....dismissed.
UPDATED: The headline and excerpt have been updated due to an error that improperly identified the authors of the re-analysis as the Israeli Health Ministry.
The fact is peoples dying in huge amount after the jab in all countries, and it's just the beginning
No. They aren't. If they were, the vaccines would have been pulled..immediately. That's how it works. The article you linked is just more alt-right pablum. Again...dismissed.
Nearly Three Months Out, We Have A Clear Picture Of COVID-19 Vaccine Safety
After tens of millions of shots, there has been no significant increase in the risk for adverse consequences. And the early data on pregnant women look good, too.
It's your business
Well, you posted it. And it's already been debunked.
Claims Pfizer's vaccine is more dangerous than COVID-19 itself debunked
Anti-vaccination activists are falsely claiming the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is killing more people than its saving.
Your "Nuh-Uh" debunked it? Too funny.
As is your retort more than three months later.
But since you seem to like conspiracy theories...here's some more debunking for you.
Microchips, Magnets And Shedding: Here Are 5 (Debunked) Covid Vaccine Conspiracy Theories Spreading Online
And no, the vaccine won’t make you Bluetooth connectable.
www.forbes.com
How do you know people are dying from the Vaccine?Don't trust conspiracy theorists siting in Israeli Health Ministry, only Merkel, Biden, Putin, Macron & Co saying the truth! Enjoy your jab and.....die!
A re-analysis of data from the Israeli Health Ministry concluded Pfizer’s COVID vaccine killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period, and 260 times more younger people than would have died from the virus.
This content is no longer available.
Sorry! This content is no longer available. We determined that there was a lack of clarity and support for the findings mentioned in the article. For more news stories, visit The Defender homepage.
Read until I saw "America's Frontline Doctors". Full stop. Not to be taken seriously. No group of any note or repute is claiming this.
Same bunch of quacks...just Israeli. Take and bend the facts to suit your own narrative....dismissed.
UPDATED: The headline and excerpt have been updated due to an error that improperly identified the authors of the re-analysis as the Israeli Health Ministry.
The fact is peoples dying in huge amount after the jab in all countries, and it's just the beginning
From the CDC link.
"To date, VAERS has not detected patterns in cause of death that would indicate a safety problem with COVID-19 vaccines".
COVID-19 Vaccination
COVID-19 vaccines protect against COVID-19. Get safety info and more.
Dismissed!!
Wrong.
The inventor of mRNA vaccines says the covid-19 vaccines are fatally flawed and should not be used.
You know, I don't know what to make of you. Most times, you come off as level headed. Then, out of the blue, you drive the bus off the cliff for some reason.
The mRNA process seems to have a lot of believers..and a lot of conspiracy theory driven believers..most of whom are masking their doubt of the science because of their political persuasion.
Here's a believer..in the science.
She was demoted, doubted and rejected. Now, her work is the basis of the Covid-19 vaccine | CNN
Covid-19 vaccines are starting to roll out in several countries, a momentous breakthrough that hopefully signals a light at the end of this dark pandemic. For Katalin Karikó, the moment is particularly special.
www.cnn.com
JustAGuy1
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Don't trust conspiracy theorists siting in Israeli Health Ministry, only Merkel, Biden, Putin, Macron & Co saying the truth! Enjoy your jab and.....die!
A re-analysis of data from the Israeli Health Ministry concluded Pfizer’s COVID vaccine killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period, and 260 times more younger people than would have died from the virus.
This content is no longer available.
Sorry! This content is no longer available. We determined that there was a lack of clarity and support for the findings mentioned in the article. For more news stories, visit The Defender homepage.
Read until I saw "America's Frontline Doctors". Full stop. Not to be taken seriously. No group of any note or repute is claiming this.
Same bunch of quacks...just Israeli. Take and bend the facts to suit your own narrative....dismissed.
UPDATED: The headline and excerpt have been updated due to an error that improperly identified the authors of the re-analysis as the Israeli Health Ministry.
The fact is peoples dying in huge amount after the jab in all countries, and it's just the beginning
No. They aren't. If they were, the vaccines would have been pulled..immediately. That's how it works. The article you linked is just more alt-right pablum. Again...dismissed.
Nearly Three Months Out, We Have A Clear Picture Of COVID-19 Vaccine Safety
After tens of millions of shots, there has been no significant increase in the risk for adverse consequences. And the early data on pregnant women look good, too.
It's your business
Well, you posted it. And it's already been debunked.
Claims Pfizer's vaccine is more dangerous than COVID-19 itself debunked
Anti-vaccination activists are falsely claiming the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is killing more people than its saving.
Your "Nuh-Uh" debunked it? Too funny.
As is your retort more than three months later.
But since you seem to like conspiracy theories...here's some more debunking for you.
Microchips, Magnets And Shedding: Here Are 5 (Debunked) Covid Vaccine Conspiracy Theories Spreading Online
And no, the vaccine won’t make you Bluetooth connectable.
Sorry kid, it is killing people.
You, like (most) suffer from normalcy bias. You only accept info that confirm YOUR point of view, that's you kids scream "FAKE NEWS" every time you are shown contrary info.
Don't trust conspiracy theorists siting in Israeli Health Ministry, only Merkel, Biden, Putin, Macron & Co saying the truth! Enjoy your jab and.....die!
A re-analysis of data from the Israeli Health Ministry concluded Pfizer’s COVID vaccine killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period, and 260 times more younger people than would have died from the virus.
This content is no longer available.
Sorry! This content is no longer available. We determined that there was a lack of clarity and support for the findings mentioned in the article. For more news stories, visit The Defender homepage.
Read until I saw "America's Frontline Doctors". Full stop. Not to be taken seriously. No group of any note or repute is claiming this.
Same bunch of quacks...just Israeli. Take and bend the facts to suit your own narrative....dismissed.
UPDATED: The headline and excerpt have been updated due to an error that improperly identified the authors of the re-analysis as the Israeli Health Ministry.
The fact is peoples dying in huge amount after the jab in all countries, and it's just the beginning
No. They aren't. If they were, the vaccines would have been pulled..immediately. That's how it works. The article you linked is just more alt-right pablum. Again...dismissed.
Nearly Three Months Out, We Have A Clear Picture Of COVID-19 Vaccine Safety
After tens of millions of shots, there has been no significant increase in the risk for adverse consequences. And the early data on pregnant women look good, too.
It's your business
Well, you posted it. And it's already been debunked.
Claims Pfizer's vaccine is more dangerous than COVID-19 itself debunked
Anti-vaccination activists are falsely claiming the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is killing more people than its saving.
Your "Nuh-Uh" debunked it? Too funny.
As is your retort more than three months later.
But since you seem to like conspiracy theories...here's some more debunking for you.
Microchips, Magnets And Shedding: Here Are 5 (Debunked) Covid Vaccine Conspiracy Theories Spreading Online
And no, the vaccine won’t make you Bluetooth connectable.
Sorry kid, it is killing people.
You, like (most) suffer from normalcy bias. You only accept info that confirm YOUR point of view, that's you kids scream "FAKE NEWS" every time you are shown contrary info.
No. You're just conditioned by alt-right media. You see boogeymen under every bed and in every closet. Most of us don't live our lives in a state of fear and mistrust guided soley by our political leanings. The media you consume is the personification of Fake News. It's where the term was invented. With every vaccine, there are going to be the possibility of adverse reactions. That's just part and parcel of the course. There are no concrete facts that any of these deaths can be attributed to the vaccine alone.
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