No Matter How You Spin This

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The money for stimulus checks and SBA loans is gone. Banks are saying they have approved loans, but have NOT received a dime. Many are asking where the hell did all that money go?

"On Thursday morning, the $349 billion emergency small business lending program officially tapped out. The Small Business Administration officially ran out of money for the Paycheck Protection Program, according to a message for lenders posted on the administration's website."

"Bottom line: Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Democrats are talking Thursday to try and to reach agreement on a package that will immediately increase funding for the program. But they aren't there yet and this is no longer a theoretical exercise. The program had, and continues to have, glitches and difficulties. But it also rolled through $349 billion in less than two weeks. That's how urgent it is for small business owners. That's how desperate, how flat catastrophic, the economic situation is amid the coronavirus pandemic. "


"The largest small businesses are getting approved for the U.S. government’s paycheck protection program"

"The Small Business Administration said that banks have approved nearly $250 billion in emergency lending to American small businesses, but there is scant evidence that much of that money is actually making its way into the hands of business owners, many of whom say time is running out before the coronavirus epidemic could force them to shutter permanently."

 
The money for stimulus checks and SBA loans is gone. Banks are saying they have approved loans, but have NOT received a dime. Many are asking where the hell did all that money go?

"On Thursday morning, the $349 billion emergency small business lending program officially tapped out. The Small Business Administration officially ran out of money for the Paycheck Protection Program, according to a message for lenders posted on the administration's website."

"Bottom line: Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Democrats are talking Thursday to try and to reach agreement on a package that will immediately increase funding for the program. But they aren't there yet and this is no longer a theoretical exercise. The program had, and continues to have, glitches and difficulties. But it also rolled through $349 billion in less than two weeks. That's how urgent it is for small business owners. That's how desperate, how flat catastrophic, the economic situation is amid the coronavirus pandemic. "


"The largest small businesses are getting approved for the U.S. government’s paycheck protection program"

"The Small Business Administration said that banks have approved nearly $250 billion in emergency lending to American small businesses, but there is scant evidence that much of that money is actually making its way into the hands of business owners, many of whom say time is running out before the coronavirus epidemic could force them to shutter permanently."

^^^
Fake news.
 
The money for stimulus checks and SBA loans is gone. Banks are saying they have approved loans, but have NOT received a dime. Many are asking where the hell did all that money go?

"On Thursday morning, the $349 billion emergency small business lending program officially tapped out. The Small Business Administration officially ran out of money for the Paycheck Protection Program, according to a message for lenders posted on the administration's website."

"Bottom line: Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Democrats are talking Thursday to try and to reach agreement on a package that will immediately increase funding for the program. But they aren't there yet and this is no longer a theoretical exercise. The program had, and continues to have, glitches and difficulties. But it also rolled through $349 billion in less than two weeks. That's how urgent it is for small business owners. That's how desperate, how flat catastrophic, the economic situation is amid the coronavirus pandemic. "


"The largest small businesses are getting approved for the U.S. government’s paycheck protection program"

"The Small Business Administration said that banks have approved nearly $250 billion in emergency lending to American small businesses, but there is scant evidence that much of that money is actually making its way into the hands of business owners, many of whom say time is running out before the coronavirus epidemic could force them to shutter permanently."

^^^
Fake news.
What part bothers you? Most likely the real part.
 
Don't look to the democratic party for your salvation, they are dragging feet by design, they want a total, complete, cascading systemic failure of the economy. Nobody in media, any media you can hear that is, is asking the right questions, folks do the fucking math, the democratic party is an organ of the CCP, they are not simply taking advantage of their little bio-weapon release so much as coordinating with it against the Trump administration! Just face reality and do the simple math, they have been engaged in open treason for 4-years now, there was no "peaceful transition of power following the 2016 election!"

First thing Obama did was spy on Trump via the CIA/NSA/FBI, the three of which then conspired with the British intelligence services to manufacture a rolling, ongoing coup d' tat masquerading as investigations and impeachments. They rolled out this bio-attack directly upon the heels of the failure of Pelosi to get Trump via impeachment, she actually increased his favorable ratings instead of reducing them!

Folks wake the fuck up, what you are experiencing is not an accident, nor did the CCP act alone in perpetrating the attack, they had ample help from within the United States federal government, it came from the democratic party. What you are currently enjoying is not the result of an accident, its by design, you really really need to come to terms with that reality. Do you not see what the democrats are doing??? They are standing in solidarity with the WHO, the CCP, and every other fascist government/movement on earth, most especially the ultra-fascist billionaires doing business in China, against the United States and its lawfully elected president!

Its the democratic governors who have shut it all down, and insist upon deepening the shutdowns. There is only one purpose for doing that, and just as gun control hasn't a thing to do with fighting crime and saving lives, this hasn't anything to do with keeping you safe, its a naked power grab!
 
The money for stimulus checks and SBA loans is gone. Banks are saying they have approved loans, but have NOT received a dime. Many are asking where the hell did all that money go?

"On Thursday morning, the $349 billion emergency small business lending program officially tapped out. The Small Business Administration officially ran out of money for the Paycheck Protection Program, according to a message for lenders posted on the administration's website."

"Bottom line: Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Democrats are talking Thursday to try and to reach agreement on a package that will immediately increase funding for the program. But they aren't there yet and this is no longer a theoretical exercise. The program had, and continues to have, glitches and difficulties. But it also rolled through $349 billion in less than two weeks. That's how urgent it is for small business owners. That's how desperate, how flat catastrophic, the economic situation is amid the coronavirus pandemic. "


"The largest small businesses are getting approved for the U.S. government’s paycheck protection program"

"The Small Business Administration said that banks have approved nearly $250 billion in emergency lending to American small businesses, but there is scant evidence that much of that money is actually making its way into the hands of business owners, many of whom say time is running out before the coronavirus epidemic could force them to shutter permanently."


We knew about this last week and Congress is playing politics. Pretty sad that politics comes before America.
 
The money for stimulus checks and SBA loans is gone. Banks are saying they have approved loans, but have NOT received a dime. Many are asking where the hell did all that money go?

"On Thursday morning, the $349 billion emergency small business lending program officially tapped out. The Small Business Administration officially ran out of money for the Paycheck Protection Program, according to a message for lenders posted on the administration's website."

"Bottom line: Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Democrats are talking Thursday to try and to reach agreement on a package that will immediately increase funding for the program. But they aren't there yet and this is no longer a theoretical exercise. The program had, and continues to have, glitches and difficulties. But it also rolled through $349 billion in less than two weeks. That's how urgent it is for small business owners. That's how desperate, how flat catastrophic, the economic situation is amid the coronavirus pandemic. "


"The largest small businesses are getting approved for the U.S. government’s paycheck protection program"

"The Small Business Administration said that banks have approved nearly $250 billion in emergency lending to American small businesses, but there is scant evidence that much of that money is actually making its way into the hands of business owners, many of whom say time is running out before the coronavirus epidemic could force them to shutter permanently."


We knew about this last week and Congress is playing politics. Pretty sad that politics comes before America.
The politicians can all go to hell. Having said that, I hope that all see something and not find out some special interest gets, or got the lion share. We are all U.S. Americans and if we find that we are getting shit on and/or left out...
 
Where's the money?

$25,000,000 for additional salary for House of Representatives (blows your mind, right off the bat!)
$100,000,000 to NASA (because, who knows why?)
$20,000,000,000 to the USPS (because, why the hell not?)
$300,000,000 to the Endowment for the Arts (Ah, screw it – let’s do it! They’ll never know)
$300,000,000 for the Endowment for the Humanities (because, not that many people even knew that was a thing?)
$15,000,000 for Veterans Employment Training (for when the GI Bill isn’t enough)
$435,000,000 for mental health support (Man, oh man, that’s a lot of suicide hotlines)
$30,000,000,000 for the Department of Education stabilization fund (Whoa, that’s a big one! Wonder how much goes to the NEA?)
$200,000,000 to Safe Schools Emergency Response to Violence Program (I guess the virus is kind of violent)
$300,000,000 to Public Broadcasting (NPR has to be bought and paid for by somebody. That somebody is you.)
$500,000,000 to Museums and Libraries (Who the hell knows how we are going to use it?)
$720,000,000 to Social Security Admin (But get this – of this, only $200,000,000 is to benefit people. The rest is for admin costs )
$25,000,000 for Cleaning supplies for the Capitol Building (Seriously, it’s on page 136)
Still reading through this crap?
$7,500,000 to the Smithsonian for additional salaries (Wait a minute, what about the virus?)
$35,000,000 to the JFK Center for performing Arts (See above)
$3,000,000,000 upgrade to the IT department at the VA (I guess $3 billion ought to cover it.”)
$315,000,000 for State Department Diplomatic Programs (What the hell does this mean?)
$95,000,000 for the Agency of International Development (What is this? Let’s keep the money here and clean up the streets of S.F. and L.A.)
$300,000,000 for International Disaster Assistance (Put this and the next one together and we’re starting to look pretty compassionate – Globally, anyway)
$300,000,000 for Migrant and Refugee Assistance (page 147)
$90,000,000 for the Peace Corp page 148 (Specifically to fight CoVid-19?)
$13,000,000 to Howard University page 121 (Wonder what the University did to deserve this?)
$9,000,000 Misc. Senate Expenses page 134 (Otherwise known as Petty Cash – maybe it’s needed to settle all them, there Harassment claims?)
$100,000,000 to Essential Air carriers page 162 (This is OK because the Airlines are going to need billions in loans to keep them afloat. Besides, $100 mil is chump change)
$40,000,000,000 goes to the Take Responsibility to Workers and Families Act page 164 (This sounds like it’s direct payments for workers. Let’s hope so)
$1,000,000,000 Airlines Recycle and Save Program page 163 (A cool $1 Billion? What’s the hell is this program all about?)
$25,000,000 to the FAA for administrative costs page 165 (Not even gonna ask)
$492,000,000 to National Railroad Passenger Corporation page 167 (AMTRAK – a.k.a. THE BIG OLD MONEY PIT)
$526,000,000 Grants to AMTRAK to remain available, IF NEEDED, through 2021 page 168 (“IF NEEDED?, IF NEEDED ! ” ) Tell me, what are the odds that it doesn’t go unused? – Hidden on page 174 the Secretary of Transportation has 7 days to allocate the funds and notify Congress. $25,000,000,000 for Transit Infrastructure page 169 (Why isn’t this in a separate bill? We need it, but what’s it doing in a Coronavirus bill?)
$3,000,000 Maritime Administration page 172 (Who knows? It’s a piddling amount anyway)
$5,000,000 Salaries and Expenses Office of the Inspector General page 172 (This office has been pretty busy the last couple of years) No voter ID to get a ballot , and anonymous “ballot harvesting” page 650 (Hmmmm. Does the phrase “voter fraud” come to mind? Any price tag? What’s ballot harvesting?”)
$2,500,000 Public and Indian Housing page 175 (CoVid-19 related?)
$5,000,000 Community Planning and Development page 175 (See above)
$2,500,000 Office of Housing (See above)
$1,500,000,000 Tenant-Based Rental Assistance Office of Public and Indian Housing. (See above)
$1,000,000,000 of which can be used as “additional administrative and other expenses”. page 176 (That’s a billion we’re talking about here – a billion, with a “b”)
$720,000,000 to the public housing fund page 177 (CoVid-19 related?)
$100,000,000 for Community Block Grants for Native Americans page 183 (See above)
$250,000,000 for Housing Block Grants for Tribes page 182 (See above)
$130,000,000 for AIDS Housing page 185. $20,000,000 of which goes to one time grantees, whatever that means page 186 (See above)
$15,000,000,000 for the Community Development Fund page 188 (That’s $15 Billion!) (Only $10,000,000 of which is set aside for infrastructure for fighting infectious Disease page 191)
$5,000,000,000 in Homeless Assistance page 193 (Aaahhh, what’s another $5Billion?)
$100,000,000,000 for Rental Assistance – page 198 (Or another $100 Billion, for that matter?)
An additional $7,000,000 to enforce the Fair Housing Act page 203
Paid Family Leave for Sickness is 2 paid work weeks – page 213 Emergency Family Leave (Now applies to all employers, not just companies over 500 employees – page 208)
Guarantees paid leave to employees who have an in-law who gets sick – page 209 (In-law? Really?)
Opens up leave for someone you are in a “committed relationships with” – page 212 (What if there’s more than one? There could be several)
$1,000,000,000 for more Obama-phones! (That’s right, folks. A cool $Billion. Do you have any idea how stupid your Congressman thinks you are?)

Still reading……?


$227,000,000 for grants to States for youth activities – page 80
261,000,000 for grants to States for dislocated worker employment and training activities, including supportive services and needs-related payments; page 80
$10,000,000 for Migrant and Seasonal Farmworker programs (What the hell? Thought this was supposed to be about the virus)
$100,000,000 for ‘‘Job Corps’’ (See above)
$15,000,000 for ‘‘Program Administration’’ (Who would want a program without an administrator or two)
$6,500,000, to the ‘‘Wage and Hour Division’’ (Who knows?)
$30,000,000, to OSHA (Guess they can’t get by on the fines they impose)
$10,000,000 for Susan Harwood training grants (You can bet this money will be well spent)
$1,300,000,000, for ‘‘Primary Health Care’’ (A billion-three? Who gets to spend this?)
$75,000,000, for ‘‘Student Aid Administration’’ (Enhancing our student debt fiasco)
$9,500,000,000, for ‘‘Higher Education’’ (Come on now! Somebody should be asked to explain this. $9.5 Billion? Really? Higher Education? Higher than what?)

As we said, when you have a GOP White House and Senate, exactly what good is it in the face of this unconscionable larceny?
 
heres one for you -

a friend owns a small business in another state- a lady works for him that has a 35 year old son still living with her - he refuses to work - he got his check yesterday - my friend's business has been ignored, and the lady hasnt got her check either -

he's tired paying 8 employees - tomorrow at closing time he's laying off everyone.

a worthless son with a check in his hand triggered him.

TA DAAAAAAAAAAAAH !!
 
The money for stimulus checks and SBA loans is gone. Banks are saying they have approved loans, but have NOT received a dime. Many are asking where the hell did all that money go?

"On Thursday morning, the $349 billion emergency small business lending program officially tapped out. The Small Business Administration officially ran out of money for the Paycheck Protection Program, according to a message for lenders posted on the administration's website."

"Bottom line: Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Democrats are talking Thursday to try and to reach agreement on a package that will immediately increase funding for the program. But they aren't there yet and this is no longer a theoretical exercise. The program had, and continues to have, glitches and difficulties. But it also rolled through $349 billion in less than two weeks. That's how urgent it is for small business owners. That's how desperate, how flat catastrophic, the economic situation is amid the coronavirus pandemic. "


"The largest small businesses are getting approved for the U.S. government’s paycheck protection program"

"The Small Business Administration said that banks have approved nearly $250 billion in emergency lending to American small businesses, but there is scant evidence that much of that money is actually making its way into the hands of business owners, many of whom say time is running out before the coronavirus epidemic could force them to shutter permanently."

^^^
Fake news.
What part bothers you? Most likely the real part.
It's simply not factual. Why are you posting fake news? Do you enjoy being a brainwashed idiot?
 
The money for stimulus checks and SBA loans is gone. Banks are saying they have approved loans, but have NOT received a dime. Many are asking where the hell did all that money go?

"On Thursday morning, the $349 billion emergency small business lending program officially tapped out. The Small Business Administration officially ran out of money for the Paycheck Protection Program, according to a message for lenders posted on the administration's website."

"Bottom line: Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Democrats are talking Thursday to try and to reach agreement on a package that will immediately increase funding for the program. But they aren't there yet and this is no longer a theoretical exercise. The program had, and continues to have, glitches and difficulties. But it also rolled through $349 billion in less than two weeks. That's how urgent it is for small business owners. That's how desperate, how flat catastrophic, the economic situation is amid the coronavirus pandemic. "


"The largest small businesses are getting approved for the U.S. government’s paycheck protection program"

"The Small Business Administration said that banks have approved nearly $250 billion in emergency lending to American small businesses, but there is scant evidence that much of that money is actually making its way into the hands of business owners, many of whom say time is running out before the coronavirus epidemic could force them to shutter permanently."

^^^
Fake news.
What part bothers you? Most likely the real part.
It's simply not factual. Why are you posting fake news? Do you enjoy being a brainwashed idiot?
Point out the part that is "fake" or otherwise STFU
 
heres one for you -

a friend owns a small business in another state- a lady works for him that has a 35 year old son still living with her - he refuses to work - he got his check yesterday - my friend's business has been ignored, and the lady hasnt got her check either -

he's tired paying 8 employees - tomorrow at closing time he's laying off everyone.

a worthless son with a check in his hand triggered him.

TA DAAAAAAAAAAAAH !!

I'll be honest, the SBA loans seem like kind of a scam to me. A business owner can get two and a half months of their payroll in a "loan". The "loan" doesn't have to be repaid if the business owner agrees to keep their people employed. You know what counts as keeping them employed? Firing them and rehiring them in June. The business owner doesn't have to give them hours, doesn't have to pay them and they'll get the loan forgiven anyway.

Basically it's free money going directly to the business owner, in my opinion. Although I'm sure it'll do some good for some people, I'm pretty sure the vast majority is going to be massively wasted.
 

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