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Driveby again reveals either ignorance or immoral stubborness. I claimed nothing of the sort. I said the employees are responsible for unionizing, that they have rights in doing so that Pelosi can't touch, and never said anything about full time workers. I don't think Driveby understands the ground rules for union organization.
I was right about Stupak and I'm right about this. Individuals don't join labor unions then go around looking to set up shop and bring the union with them, as you claim. The workers in a particular firm decide if they want to unionize and a vote is held.
1) You said the Stupak amdendment had nothing to do with abortion, wrong.......
That's a lie.
2) Grape pickers are not full time, year round employees, so again you have no clue what you're takling about ..........
I never said they were.
Driveby again reveals either ignorance or immoral stubborness. I claimed nothing of the sort. I said the employees are responsible for unionizing, that they have rights in doing so that Pelosi can't touch, and never said anything about full time workers. I don't think Driveby understands the ground rules for union organization.
You don't know California employment law, T. If you did, you would not have stated what you did. If Driveby wants to make that argument, he has to show that she can do that. He hasn't, and he can't. In other words, there is no salient point here, T. Either Driveby refuses to discuss the reality of the situation, or Driveby is deliberating falsifying the argument. Either is unacceptable.
No, that is not what the discussion was about, so you and driveby need to stop the non-sequitur. The non-union workers can always organize if they wish under California law. Pelosi has nothing to do with that.
You don't know California employment law, T. If you did, you would not have stated what you did. If Driveby wants to make that argument, he has to show that she can do that. He hasn't, and he can't. In other words, there is no salient point here, T. Either Driveby refuses to discuss the reality of the situation, or Driveby is deliberating falsifying the argument. Either is unacceptable.
My contention is that you, T, don't know employment or union law in California, and that Driveby is misconstruing the argument since Driveby can't win the argument.
Dealing with the Drivebys of the world is relatively easy and pain free.
My contention is that you, T, don't know employment or union law in California, and that Driveby is misconstruing the argument since Driveby can't win the argument.
Dealing with the Drivebys of the world is relatively easy and pain free.
I have pointed out your errors clearly and concisely, Driveby. That you refuse to accept that is meaningless.
1) You said the Stupak amdendment had nothing to do with abortion, wrong.......
That's a lie.
2) Grape pickers are not full time, year round employees, so again you have no clue what you're takling about ..........
I never said they were.
1) Not a lie. http://www.usmessageboard.com/current-events/94932-axelrod-signals-obama-will-try-to-strip-abortion-language-from-health-care-bill-2.html
2) I rest my case, you're way clueless.
No, that is not what the discussion was about, so you and driveby need to stop the non-sequitur. The non-union workers can always organize if they wish under California law. Pelosi has nothing to do with that.
An employer has NO SAYSO is your contention?
T is not going to understand that, Polk. And Driveby, who does, won't admit it.
That's a lie.
I never said they were.
1) Not a lie. http://www.usmessageboard.com/current-events/94932-axelrod-signals-obama-will-try-to-strip-abortion-language-from-health-care-bill-2.html
2) I rest my case, you're way clueless.
1. Perhaps you'd like to show where I said Stupak wasn't about abortions, because there is no post in that thread stating that. (of course, you'll weasel out because you know you're lying)
2. Seasonal versus year-round work has nothing to do with how unions are formed.
1) Not a lie. http://www.usmessageboard.com/current-events/94932-axelrod-signals-obama-will-try-to-strip-abortion-language-from-health-care-bill-2.html
2) I rest my case, you're way clueless.
1. Perhaps you'd like to show where I said Stupak wasn't about abortions, because there is no post in that thread stating that. (of course, you'll weasel out because you know you're lying)
2. Seasonal versus year-round work has nothing to do with how unions are formed.
1) In the link i posted you said the original HR6932 did not fund abortions, i asked you " Then what was the Stupak Amendment? " You said it was " A bill to ban people from buying overage with their own money" .
2) You douchebags keep spinning, when it's time to pick the grapes, she hires pickers to do it. At that time she has a choice to hire union pickers or non union. "Forming a union" has nothing to do with it. Comprende ? .....
