Obama's Speech - comments

[Wry Catcher]

Middle class tax cuts don't create jobs.

Just part of his popularist move. Give em stufff and they may vote for you.

Middle class includes the small business owner and the vast number of Americans who go to the mall, Wal-Mart, Cost-Co, the Movies, Best Buy and other electronic stores; shop for school supplies, invest in mutual funds, etc. etc.
It's not rocket science, once the consumer begins to trust the economy the economy will begin to grow, banks will begin to provide loans and small and large business will begin to hire.
Fear mongering, and cynical posts such as yours do harm. As for populism, listen to Boehner or McConnell, Gingrich or Palin, for a classic example of the populist.

 

[Meister]

You mean when talked about not raising taxes and talked up small businesses?


What is "far left", anyway?

Rdean,Zona,Chris and their crew chief Midcant....and their leader Pelosi....is an example....and we can include their confused supporter.....Jake.....

If they're far left, how would you characterize PETA or the Socialist Worker's Party? Harry, admit you don't know anything and simply parrot the words of Limbaugh and other purveyors of far right propaganda. Your post are all opinion, which would be okay, if your opinions were really your own or thoughtful and once in a while (once would be good) supported with evidence and not hysterical hyperbole.

Your posts aren't opinions?
Your so in the tank with the FAR left opinions wry, that you can't see through the lies of this administration.

 

[Zoom-boing]

Obama delivered an ass kicking to the Republicans

They looked like they were going to cry

He said he wanted to worked in a bi-partisan manner. He did deliver an ass kicking - well, he was snarky and mocked the Rs.

Talk is cheap, it's what you do that counts.

Barry = bi-partisan fail.

 

[Meister]

Actually the Senate Dems have ALREADY announced they WILL NOT work with the Republicans on Deficit reduction at ALL. So much for that pie in the sky claim. I seriously DOUBT Pelosi plans to let Republicans in on anything either.

This administration considers anyone who doesn't fall in line with them as an adversary. Their idea of "working with them" is to adopt their policy, and if you don't, then you just aren't cooperative.

Based on what has occurred before, I agree with the adversarial set up. He is pitting the classes, parties, and ideologies against each other. The speech made crystal that he is a total ideologue, the question is whether or not the legislators really bought it or for how long?

There is no way that Obama would go for off-shore drilling, much less building refineries or nuclear power plants. Red herrings thrown out to show 'reaching out,' and coupling with cap and trade, health care, and growing the deficits.

When I heard that lastnight I just had to laugh. Pelosi and her band would never allow that to happen. Too much money coming from the environmental special interests groups. Remember when the price of gas was over 4.00? When there was talk about drilling again, Pelosi stated that the oil companies had enough leased land for drilling, well that land set aside had no oil pockets, the oil companies had alreaded researched the areas. Where there are known oil reserves is always off limits. This is the same old bullshit that we've heard for years.

 

[Nonelitist]

Barry is proving to be exactly what alot of us thought.... an ungrateful, rude, arrogant community aggitator.

 

[Meister]

Obama delivered an ass kicking to the Republicans

They looked like they were going to cry

He said he wanted to worked in a bi-partisan manner. He did deliver an ass kicking.

Talk is cheap, it's what you do that counts.

Barry = bi-partisan fail.

A lot of it sounded like repackaged campaign speeches with regards to reaching out to the other side. For the last year when the Republicans had no power whatsoever,were trying to gain an ear from the administration, the doors were closed and the lights were out. Now they don't have a super majority any longer, he comes back with a speech like this? I doubt he fooled many people.

 

[Stephanie]

Obama is nothing but a Chicago street thug. This man is a scary idiot and dangerous to us and our country.

 

[Zoom-boing]

Obama delivered an ass kicking to the Republicans

They looked like they were going to cry

He said he wanted to worked in a bi-partisan manner. He did deliver an ass kicking.

Talk is cheap, it's what you do that counts.

Barry = bi-partisan fail.

A lot of it sounded like repackaged campaign speeches with regards to reaching out to the other side. For the last year when the Republicans had no power whatsoever,were trying to gain an ear from the administration, the doors were closed and the lights were out. Now they don't have a super majority any longer, he comes back with a speech like this? I doubt he fooled many people.

His attitude towards the Rs is very condescending. Just when he was about to talk about HC he said something to the effect (I'm paraphrasing) "Now, let's talk about this health care" and he gets a snarky, snide smile, all the Dems laugh and 'look and point' at the Rs. Mock much? This is leadership? This is reaching out to work in a bi-partisan way?

Did you ever want your kid to do something they didn't really want to do and you approached them with disdain? The kid digs in their heels, gets their stubborn on and it's nothing but a fight to get some cooperation. If you approach them in an inclusive manner, no mocking, no 'looking down', you get a much more cooperative kid. The latter is how Obama should lead Congress. I've yet to see this, all I hear is blather.

 

[EriktheRed]

It was interesting watch the military men sit stone faced when barry announced openly gay people will now be allowed in the military.

That he annouced in a SOTU was a little unusual.

The USSC looked REALLY angry that Barry attacked their decision, even the dissenting judges were stone faced at the POTUS's incredible over reach there.

I'd thought you'd be happy to see a president show some 'nads...

Acually, the fact that he's showed some 'nads is why he and others on here are so pissed.

 

[Stephanie]

So, talking down to the people he represents, not listening to what they are saying and pushing off his "visions" on them even though they are saying STOP IT, acting like a thuggish dictator is now called having, Nads.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Rdean,Zona,Chris and their crew chief Midcant....and their leader Pelosi....is an example....and we can include their confused supporter.....Jake.....

If they're far left, how would you characterize PETA or the Socialist Worker's Party? Harry, admit you don't know anything and simply parrot the words of Limbaugh and other purveyors of far right propaganda. Your post are all opinion, which would be okay, if your opinions were really your own or thoughtful and once in a while (once would be good) supported with evidence and not hysterical hyperbole.

Your posts aren't opinions?
Your so in the tank with the FAR left opinions wry, that you can't see through the lies of this administration.

My opinions are not expressed in idiotgrams, and I have a pretty good understanding of politics and the rhetoric of pols from both sides of the aisle. You consider Obama's inability to accomplish all he promised as lies, and that suggest to me that you are ignorant of the politcal process.
You believe my opinons are far left. I suppose you belief this because I was opposed to the Bush Administation foreign and domestic policies and because I have acknowledged a bias towards labor over capital, admitted I'm a registered Democrat and am critical of the Republican establishment and those I consider far right.
None of which makes me far left. I don't advocate for revolutionary change - that's a tea party ideal; I believe in the rule of law and the ideals presented in the Preamble to our Constitution; and, though an agnostic, I believe in the values Jesus passed down and the exhortations I learned as a child - raised Catholic - from the Nuns and Priests. Hence, I post what I believe and challege those who lie and bear false witness against others.

 

[Wry Catcher]

He said he wanted to worked in a bi-partisan manner. He did deliver an ass kicking.

Talk is cheap, it's what you do that counts.

Barry = bi-partisan fail.

A lot of it sounded like repackaged campaign speeches with regards to reaching out to the other side. For the last year when the Republicans had no power whatsoever,were trying to gain an ear from the administration, the doors were closed and the lights were out. Now they don't have a super majority any longer, he comes back with a speech like this? I doubt he fooled many people.

His attitude towards the Rs is very condescending. Just when he was about to talk about HC he said something to the effect (I'm paraphrasing) "Now, let's talk about this health care" and he gets a snarky, snide smile, all the Dems laugh and 'look and point' at the Rs. Mock much? This is leadership? This is reaching out to work in a bi-partisan way?

Did you ever want your kid to do something they didn't really want to do and you approached them with disdain? The kid digs in their heels, gets their stubborn on and it's nothing but a fight to get some cooperation. If you approach them in an inclusive manner, no mocking, no 'looking down', you get a much more cooperative kid. The latter is how Obama should lead Congress. I've yet to see this, all I hear is blather.

You may have a point. Obama is treating the R's as adults. He should treat them as spoiled children whose favorite toy was taken away (power) by the people. Maybe Obama ought to give the R's a timeout, send them to their rooms and govern without them. He doesn't need them, and they sure don't have any ideas other than those of 'terrible two - "NO!".

 

[Xenophon]

It was interesting watch the military men sit stone faced when barry announced openly gay people will now be allowed in the military.

That he annouced in a SOTU was a little unusual.

The USSC looked REALLY angry that Barry attacked their decision, even the dissenting judges were stone faced at the POTUS's incredible over reach there.

I'd thought you'd be happy to see a president show some 'nads...

I don't believe a word he says.

I put him right next to Bush in the honesty department.

 

[Samson]

Obama delivered an ass kicking to the Republicans

They looked like they were going to cry

He said he wanted to worked in a bi-partisan manner. He did deliver an ass kicking - well, he was snarky and mocked the Rs.

Talk is cheap, it's what you do that counts.

Barry = bi-partisan fail.

Yep, that's why I didn't watch


Talk is cheap.

Political speeches are cheaper.

Political Speeches by Obama are cheapest

(and have lost their entertainment value)

 

[Claudette]

Middle class tax cuts don't create jobs.

Just part of his popularist move. Give em stufff and they may vote for you.

Middle class includes the small business owner and the vast number of Americans who go to the mall, Wal-Mart, Cost-Co, the Movies, Best Buy and other electronic stores; shop for school supplies, invest in mutual funds, etc. etc.
It's not rocket science, once the consumer begins to trust the economy the economy will begin to grow, banks will begin to provide loans and small and large business will begin to hire.
Fear mongering, and cynical posts such as yours do harm. As for populism, listen to Boehner or McConnell, Gingrich or Palin, for a classic example of the populist.

Giving breaks for student loans, child care and other targeted souls ain't gonna create any jobs. Tax cuts to small busiiness will though.

As for Populism. Well I think thats what OL'BO is trying for. Just my opinion.

 

[KMAN]

My wife was watching the speech last night when my 4 year old walked in the room and asked "Is this America's Funniest Home Videos?"

 

[Wry Catcher]

Obama delivered an ass kicking to the Republicans

They looked like they were going to cry

He said he wanted to worked in a bi-partisan manner. He did deliver an ass kicking - well, he was snarky and mocked the Rs.

Talk is cheap, it's what you do that counts.

Barry = bi-partisan fail.

Yep, that's why I didn't watch


Talk is cheap.

Political speeches are cheaper.

Political Speeches by Obama are cheapest

(and have lost their entertainment value)

Willful ignorance.

 

[Samson]

Just part of his popularist move. Give em stufff and they may vote for you.

Middle class includes the small business owner and the vast number of Americans who go to the mall, Wal-Mart, Cost-Co, the Movies, Best Buy and other electronic stores; shop for school supplies, invest in mutual funds, etc. etc.
It's not rocket science, once the consumer begins to trust the economy the economy will begin to grow, banks will begin to provide loans and small and large business will begin to hire.
Fear mongering, and cynical posts such as yours do harm. As for populism, listen to Boehner or McConnell, Gingrich or Palin, for a classic example of the populist.

Giving breaks for student loans, child care and other targeted souls ain't gonna create any jobs. Tax cuts to small busiiness will though.

As for Populism. Well I think thats what OL'BO is trying for. Just my opinion.

I think he's make a wonderful Babtist Minister. He seems good at creating Faith.

Sadly, creating more tangible results is a task well over his head.

Of course, given the handicap of Pelosi as Speaker of the House, we cannot expect much.

 

[masquerade]

"You'll keep singing until you get it right."

That seems to be the defining principle of the Obama administration -- whose response to every problem, every setback, every hiccup and challenge has been, simply, "more Obama."

Indeed, for people who aren't sticklers for political jargon, it will be a shock that last night was Obama's first State of the Union Address, since it was his third formal address to a joint session of Congress. Yet for all of the political déjà vu, what was most surprising last night was the degree to which Obama delivered even more of the same.

Washington graybeards and pundits have been insisting that Obama needs to "start over," "reboot" and "tack to the middle" after Scott Brown's win in Massachusetts. But Obama's response last night was to recommit himself to the agenda that has gotten him in so much trouble.

In fairness, the president took a French-bath of Clintonism before he took to his beloved TelePrompTer. He doused himself with the scent of the deficit-fighter and trade-promoter. He unveiled a slew of small, easy, applause-gathering proposals and populist appeals that he knows will go nowhere.

He also indulged in a lot of feel-your-pain pathos, trying to connect with the real Americans suffering from the recession and the misdeeds of a "Washington" that Obama seems to think is run by someone other than him.

But the eau-de-Clinton couldn't mask the stench -- and Obama, in his supreme arrogance, didn't really seem to care.

There was no "pivot to the center," no serious accounting for the Massachusetts miracle or his misfortunes. Instead, there was an innumerate, inaccurate and distinctly unpresidential whine -- blaming George W. Bush for nearly all of his problems (leaving out, among other things, that the Democrats have been controlling Congress and crafting budgets since 2006).

The White House insists that the new wave of populism created by Democratic governance is, in fact, the same populist wave that carried Obama to victory in 2008. In other words, Obama was elected president by the backlash against his own presidency.

This novel theory allows Obama to stick to his view that there's nothing wrong with his health-care plan, and anyone who feels differently hasn't heard or understood the president's explanations.

So, he not only implored Democrats not to "run for the hills" on the health-reform bill, but insisted that as "temperatures cool," hot-tempered opponents will, of course, realize they were wrong about the bill.

Obama began his presidency insisting that government is the answer to our problems. A year later, he still believes that the era of big government is upon us.

In the same speech in which he preened over a gallingly gimmicky "spending freeze," the president promised more jobs bills, more "investments" in schools, roads, trains and factories. He even reaffirmed his support for his carbon-tax legislation -- which would send far more jobs overseas than it would create here at home.

But Obama has a bigger problem: Aside from a few throwaway lines of self-deprecation, whenever he grew passionate, it was to blame others.

His predecessor topped his list, of course. But also everyone else who disagrees with him.

Obama insists that Americans need to muster the courage to agree with him, to sign on to his agenda. Just as at Omaha Beach and Bull Run, Americans need to show their mettle. "Again, we are tested. And again, we must answer history's call." That "call" is the call of Obama.

"I never suggested that change would be easy, or that I can do it alone." So come on, you slackers, fall into line.

He decried the politicians who are in "permanent campaign" mode -- the same week he brought into the White House his campaign manager.

Other politicians are vain, cowardly and insubstantial. They need the courage to change. Meanwhile, Obama is great the way he is.

That is the attitude that has gotten the president in so much trouble. And last night's State of the Union speech showed us that change really isn't easy, particularly for the president.


Jonah Goldberg

 

[txlonghorn]

It was interesting watch the military men sit stone faced when barry announced openly gay people will now be allowed in the military.

That he annouced in a SOTU was a little unusual.

The USSC looked REALLY angry that Barry attacked their decision, even the dissenting judges were stone faced at the POTUS's incredible over reach there.

I'd thought you'd be happy to see a president show some 'nads...

Acually, the fact that he's showed some 'nads is why he and others on here are so pissed.

wow...he showed his nads??? I bet Chris Matthews blew a load all over his news chair.


But to be serious, others on here aren't pissed that he showed some nads...all I heard was a bunch of the same. And some whining about why not much has changed for the good since he took office. Yeah yeah, we know, Bush left him a horrible pile of shit to work with...he knew that going in....it's never the dems fault. With a majority congress, he was still unable to get anything done. Well, they DID pass that comprehensive energy and climate bill...(surely that will help our situation).

When you say he showed some nads, are you referring to his jeers and finger pointing at the republicans? Or are you talking about his about face on the military and the supreme court? He was incredibly brave to do that...dumb...but brave.