Obama's Speech - comments

[Xenophon]

He said he wanted to worked in a bi-partisan manner. He did deliver an ass kicking - well, he was snarky and mocked the Rs.

Talk is cheap, it's what you do that counts.

Barry = bi-partisan fail.

Yep, that's why I didn't watch


Talk is cheap.

Political speeches are cheaper.

Political Speeches by Obama are cheapest

(and have lost their entertainment value)

Willful ignorance.

He never said he supported Barry.

 

[The Rabbi]

Middle class tax cuts don't create jobs.

Just part of his popularist move. Give em stufff and they may vote for you.

Middle class includes the small business owner and the vast number of Americans who go to the mall, Wal-Mart, Cost-Co, the Movies, Best Buy and other electronic stores; shop for school supplies, invest in mutual funds, etc. etc.
It's not rocket science, once the consumer begins to trust the economy the economy will begin to grow, banks will begin to provide loans and small and large business will begin to hire.
Fear mongering, and cynical posts such as yours do harm. As for populism, listen to Boehner or McConnell, Gingrich or Palin, for a classic example of the populist.

Show me the middle class tax cuts that he has proposed. There isn't one. Not a single proposal that he has made will encourage people to save, invest, start and expand businesses. We've already learned that sending cash to people to spend at the mall is a waste. It doesn't stimulate anything except votes. That is called "bribing us with our own money."
Enough of that crap. Obama doesn't know what he doesn't know. He has hired advisors who are more clueless and partisan than he is.
This is one monumental failure, OneBigAssMistakeAmerica

 

[txlonghorn]

"You'll keep singing until you get it right."

That seems to be the defining principle of the Obama administration -- whose response to every problem, every setback, every hiccup and challenge has been, simply, "more Obama."

Indeed, for people who aren't sticklers for political jargon, it will be a shock that last night was Obama's first State of the Union Address, since it was his third formal address to a joint session of Congress. Yet for all of the political déjà vu, what was most surprising last night was the degree to which Obama delivered even more of the same.

Washington graybeards and pundits have been insisting that Obama needs to "start over," "reboot" and "tack to the middle" after Scott Brown's win in Massachusetts. But Obama's response last night was to recommit himself to the agenda that has gotten him in so much trouble.

In fairness, the president took a French-bath of Clintonism before he took to his beloved TelePrompTer. He doused himself with the scent of the deficit-fighter and trade-promoter. He unveiled a slew of small, easy, applause-gathering proposals and populist appeals that he knows will go nowhere.

He also indulged in a lot of feel-your-pain pathos, trying to connect with the real Americans suffering from the recession and the misdeeds of a "Washington" that Obama seems to think is run by someone other than him.

But the eau-de-Clinton couldn't mask the stench -- and Obama, in his supreme arrogance, didn't really seem to care.

There was no "pivot to the center," no serious accounting for the Massachusetts miracle or his misfortunes. Instead, there was an innumerate, inaccurate and distinctly unpresidential whine -- blaming George W. Bush for nearly all of his problems (leaving out, among other things, that the Democrats have been controlling Congress and crafting budgets since 2006).

The White House insists that the new wave of populism created by Democratic governance is, in fact, the same populist wave that carried Obama to victory in 2008. In other words, Obama was elected president by the backlash against his own presidency.

This novel theory allows Obama to stick to his view that there's nothing wrong with his health-care plan, and anyone who feels differently hasn't heard or understood the president's explanations.

So, he not only implored Democrats not to "run for the hills" on the health-reform bill, but insisted that as "temperatures cool," hot-tempered opponents will, of course, realize they were wrong about the bill.

Obama began his presidency insisting that government is the answer to our problems. A year later, he still believes that the era of big government is upon us.

In the same speech in which he preened over a gallingly gimmicky "spending freeze," the president promised more jobs bills, more "investments" in schools, roads, trains and factories. He even reaffirmed his support for his carbon-tax legislation -- which would send far more jobs overseas than it would create here at home.

But Obama has a bigger problem: Aside from a few throwaway lines of self-deprecation, whenever he grew passionate, it was to blame others.

His predecessor topped his list, of course. But also everyone else who disagrees with him.

Obama insists that Americans need to muster the courage to agree with him, to sign on to his agenda. Just as at Omaha Beach and Bull Run, Americans need to show their mettle. "Again, we are tested. And again, we must answer history's call." That "call" is the call of Obama.

"I never suggested that change would be easy, or that I can do it alone." So come on, you slackers, fall into line.

He decried the politicians who are in "permanent campaign" mode -- the same week he brought into the White House his campaign manager.

Other politicians are vain, cowardly and insubstantial. They need the courage to change. Meanwhile, Obama is great the way he is.

That is the attitude that has gotten the president in so much trouble. And last night's State of the Union speech showed us that change really isn't easy, particularly for the president.


Jonah Goldberg

And that about covers it

 

[Zoom-boing]

A lot of it sounded like repackaged campaign speeches with regards to reaching out to the other side. For the last year when the Republicans had no power whatsoever,were trying to gain an ear from the administration, the doors were closed and the lights were out. Now they don't have a super majority any longer, he comes back with a speech like this? I doubt he fooled many people.

His attitude towards the Rs is very condescending. Just when he was about to talk about HC he said something to the effect (I'm paraphrasing) "Now, let's talk about this health care" and he gets a snarky, snide smile, all the Dems laugh and 'look and point' at the Rs. Mock much? This is leadership? This is reaching out to work in a bi-partisan way?

Did you ever want your kid to do something they didn't really want to do and you approached them with disdain? The kid digs in their heels, gets their stubborn on and it's nothing but a fight to get some cooperation. If you approach them in an inclusive manner, no mocking, no 'looking down', you get a much more cooperative kid. The latter is how Obama should lead Congress. I've yet to see this, all I hear is blather.

You may have a point. Obama is treating the R's as adults. He should treat them as spoiled children whose favorite toy was taken away (power) by the people. Maybe Obama ought to give the R's a timeout, send them to their rooms and govern without them. He doesn't need them, and they sure don't have any ideas other than those of 'terrible two - "NO!".

His words say he wants bi-partisanship; his actions say 'fuck you, Rs'.

You missed the entire point of my post. Par.

 

[SFC Ollie]

A lot of it sounded like repackaged campaign speeches with regards to reaching out to the other side. For the last year when the Republicans had no power whatsoever,were trying to gain an ear from the administration, the doors were closed and the lights were out. Now they don't have a super majority any longer, he comes back with a speech like this? I doubt he fooled many people.

His attitude towards the Rs is very condescending. Just when he was about to talk about HC he said something to the effect (I'm paraphrasing) "Now, let's talk about this health care" and he gets a snarky, snide smile, all the Dems laugh and 'look and point' at the Rs. Mock much? This is leadership? This is reaching out to work in a bi-partisan way?

Did you ever want your kid to do something they didn't really want to do and you approached them with disdain? The kid digs in their heels, gets their stubborn on and it's nothing but a fight to get some cooperation. If you approach them in an inclusive manner, no mocking, no 'looking down', you get a much more cooperative kid. The latter is how Obama should lead Congress. I've yet to see this, all I hear is blather.

You may have a point. Obama is treating the R's as adults. He should treat them as spoiled children whose favorite toy was taken away (power) by the people. Maybe Obama ought to give the R's a timeout, send them to their rooms and govern without them. He doesn't need them, and they sure don't have any ideas other than those of 'terrible two - "NO!".

He has basically tried that this past year, and what has his super majority accomplished? They still blame the Republicans for not being able to pass shit.

 

[Claudette]

"You'll keep singing until you get it right."

That seems to be the defining principle of the Obama administration -- whose response to every problem, every setback, every hiccup and challenge has been, simply, "more Obama."

Indeed, for people who aren't sticklers for political jargon, it will be a shock that last night was Obama's first State of the Union Address, since it was his third formal address to a joint session of Congress. Yet for all of the political déjà vu, what was most surprising last night was the degree to which Obama delivered even more of the same.

Washington graybeards and pundits have been insisting that Obama needs to "start over," "reboot" and "tack to the middle" after Scott Brown's win in Massachusetts. But Obama's response last night was to recommit himself to the agenda that has gotten him in so much trouble.

In fairness, the president took a French-bath of Clintonism before he took to his beloved TelePrompTer. He doused himself with the scent of the deficit-fighter and trade-promoter. He unveiled a slew of small, easy, applause-gathering proposals and populist appeals that he knows will go nowhere.

He also indulged in a lot of feel-your-pain pathos, trying to connect with the real Americans suffering from the recession and the misdeeds of a "Washington" that Obama seems to think is run by someone other than him.

But the eau-de-Clinton couldn't mask the stench -- and Obama, in his supreme arrogance, didn't really seem to care.

There was no "pivot to the center," no serious accounting for the Massachusetts miracle or his misfortunes. Instead, there was an innumerate, inaccurate and distinctly unpresidential whine -- blaming George W. Bush for nearly all of his problems (leaving out, among other things, that the Democrats have been controlling Congress and crafting budgets since 2006).

The White House insists that the new wave of populism created by Democratic governance is, in fact, the same populist wave that carried Obama to victory in 2008. In other words, Obama was elected president by the backlash against his own presidency.

This novel theory allows Obama to stick to his view that there's nothing wrong with his health-care plan, and anyone who feels differently hasn't heard or understood the president's explanations.

So, he not only implored Democrats not to "run for the hills" on the health-reform bill, but insisted that as "temperatures cool," hot-tempered opponents will, of course, realize they were wrong about the bill.

Obama began his presidency insisting that government is the answer to our problems. A year later, he still believes that the era of big government is upon us.

In the same speech in which he preened over a gallingly gimmicky "spending freeze," the president promised more jobs bills, more "investments" in schools, roads, trains and factories. He even reaffirmed his support for his carbon-tax legislation -- which would send far more jobs overseas than it would create here at home.

But Obama has a bigger problem: Aside from a few throwaway lines of self-deprecation, whenever he grew passionate, it was to blame others.

His predecessor topped his list, of course. But also everyone else who disagrees with him.

Obama insists that Americans need to muster the courage to agree with him, to sign on to his agenda. Just as at Omaha Beach and Bull Run, Americans need to show their mettle. "Again, we are tested. And again, we must answer history's call." That "call" is the call of Obama.

"I never suggested that change would be easy, or that I can do it alone." So come on, you slackers, fall into line.

He decried the politicians who are in "permanent campaign" mode -- the same week he brought into the White House his campaign manager.

Other politicians are vain, cowardly and insubstantial. They need the courage to change. Meanwhile, Obama is great the way he is.

That is the attitude that has gotten the president in so much trouble. And last night's State of the Union speech showed us that change really isn't easy, particularly for the president.


Jonah Goldberg

And that about covers it

Amen Brother

 

[Murf76]

His words say he wants bi-partisanship; his actions say 'fuck you, Rs'.

Exactly. And the unmitigated arrogance of doing both at the same exact time in the same exact speech is ASTONISHING.



(You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Zoom-boing again)

 

[saveliberty]

Wry is cranked up this morning! Obama cannot accomplish what he suggests for many reasons

- his own party is so diverse, he won't get the support he needs.
- he is all over the place. Asks for unity then rips into banks, Republicans and even his own party.
- everything is framed in a socialist context.
- he is looking to FDR for answers and this situation is very different.
- most plans have a tax attached to them.
- nothing of substance is on the table. token budget freezes.
- his cabinet lacks the experience to help business.
- Democrats need to shift into election mode.
- many with future political ambitions will leave their posts soon.
- inflation is not far off.

Special note for Wry: Neg reping me will just paint a target on your back. Your life just got harder. STFU! lol, good luck with that.

 

[masquerade]

“change has not come fast enough. Some are frustrated; some are angry. They don't understand why it seems like bad behavior on Wall Street is rewarded, but hard work on Main Street isn't; or why Washington has been unable or unwilling to solve any of our problems. They're tired of the partisanship and the shouting and the pettiness. They know we can't afford it. Not now.”

Our problems? Is Mr. Obama saying here that HE is one of us? And that Washington is to blame? Excuse me Mr. President, you are part of the problem!!!! You hold our highest office! Why does this guy continue to keep himself on the outside? So that someone else can take the blame, can take the fall. Along with this statement, I did hear him spew another about what Washington has been doing to us. Us. Sorry dude ... you are NOT one of us!

 

[Murf76]

“change has not come fast enough. Some are frustrated; some are angry. They don't understand why it seems like bad behavior on Wall Street is rewarded, but hard work on Main Street isn't; or why Washington has been unable or unwilling to solve any of our problems. They're tired of the partisanship and the shouting and the pettiness. They know we can't afford it. Not now.”

Our problems? Is Mr. Obama saying here that HE is one of us? And that Washington is to blame? Excuse me Mr. President, you are part of the problem!!!! You hold our highest office! Why does this guy continue to keep himself on the outside? So that someone else can take the blame, can take the fall. Along with this statement, I did hear him spew another about what Washington has been doing to us. Us. Sorry dude ... you are NOT one of us!

All this finger-pointing at Wall Street is old. And frankly, it doesn't stand a chance of working on thinking people. You don't even have to be a deep thinker to reach the conclusion that we elected a certain group of people to mind the cookie jar... and that that they failed to do THEIR JOB.

Wall Street couldn't do a damn thing that Washington didn't first ALLOW them to do. It's not the job of private corporations to make effective regulations or to enforce them.

 

[saveliberty]

“change has not come fast enough. Some are frustrated; some are angry. They don't understand why it seems like bad behavior on Wall Street is rewarded, but hard work on Main Street isn't; or why Washington has been unable or unwilling to solve any of our problems. They're tired of the partisanship and the shouting and the pettiness. They know we can't afford it. Not now.”

Our problems? Is Mr. Obama saying here that HE is one of us? And that Washington is to blame? Excuse me Mr. President, you are part of the problem!!!! You hold our highest office! Why does this guy continue to keep himself on the outside? So that someone else can take the blame, can take the fall. Along with this statement, I did hear him spew another about what Washington has been doing to us. Us. Sorry dude ... you are NOT one of us!

He sounds like the crack addict blaming anyone and everyone except himself. Lashing out at those he needs to help him recover. I am not sure just what blinds him so badly to what America wants. He seems to say we are upset about the pace of change. In reality, we are just angry with what and how Obama and Congress are trying to change things.

 

[masquerade]

“change has not come fast enough. Some are frustrated; some are angry. They don't understand why it seems like bad behavior on Wall Street is rewarded, but hard work on Main Street isn't; or why Washington has been unable or unwilling to solve any of our problems. They're tired of the partisanship and the shouting and the pettiness. They know we can't afford it. Not now.”

Our problems? Is Mr. Obama saying here that HE is one of us? And that Washington is to blame? Excuse me Mr. President, you are part of the problem!!!! You hold our highest office! Why does this guy continue to keep himself on the outside? So that someone else can take the blame, can take the fall. Along with this statement, I did hear him spew another about what Washington has been doing to us. Us. Sorry dude ... you are NOT one of us!

He sounds like the crack addict blaming anyone and everyone except himself. Lashing out at those he needs to help him recover. I am not sure just what blinds him so badly to what America wants. He seems to say we are upset about the pace of change. In reality, we are just angry with what and how Obama and Congress are trying to change things.

Because HE is seeing what HE wants. Him and his progressive cronies.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Mr. Limbaugh is at this moment providing the talking points which will be posted here for the next few days. He is ranting and raving to the RW base with the usual hysterics, readiing from a script written in the days before the STOU address, and filled with plaitutudes soon to fill this and other messages boards by the parrots on the right.
Rather than listen to his words, think about our current problems and evaluate suggested solutions, the conservative fringe - which includes and is lead by Limbaugh - has continued the attack on the president which began even before his nomination.

 

[Meister]

If they're far left, how would you characterize PETA or the Socialist Worker's Party? Harry, admit you don't know anything and simply parrot the words of Limbaugh and other purveyors of far right propaganda. Your post are all opinion, which would be okay, if your opinions were really your own or thoughtful and once in a while (once would be good) supported with evidence and not hysterical hyperbole.

Your posts aren't opinions?
Your so in the tank with the FAR left opinions wry, that you can't see through the lies of this administration.

My opinions are not expressed in idiotgrams, and I have a pretty good understanding of politics and the rhetoric of pols from both sides of the aisle. You consider Obama's inability to accomplish all he promised as lies, and that suggest to me that you are ignorant of the politcal process.
You believe my opinons are far left. I suppose you belief this because I was opposed to the Bush Administation foreign and domestic policies and because I have acknowledged a bias towards labor over capital, admitted I'm a registered Democrat and am critical of the Republican establishment and those I consider far right.
None of which makes me far left. I don't advocate for revolutionary change - that's a tea party ideal; I believe in the rule of law and the ideals presented in the Preamble to our Constitution; and, though an agnostic, I believe in the values Jesus passed down and the exhortations I learned as a child - raised Catholic - from the Nuns and Priests. Hence, I post what I believe and challege those who lie and bear false witness against others.

I can see why you like barry, your about as full of yourself as barry is with himself. I highlighted my proof in your post. barry is a liar, wry, he has lied on a number of occassions, and it's not because of political process. With the super majority that he enjoyed, he could get away with it. So take up your blather with a family member OK? It won't fly on this message board.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Well, at least Chris "tingly leg" Mathews thought it was so good that it made him forget Obama was black for an hour.

Good Lord.. is this man insane?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Rather than listen to his words, think about our current problems and evaluate suggested solutions, the conservative fringe - which includes and is lead by Limbaugh - has continued the attack on the president which began even before his nomination.

Speaking of the looney left and in they chime!

 

[The Rabbi]

Acually, the fact that he's showed some 'nads is why he and others on here are so pissed.

Showed 'nads? Showed his ass, is more like it. Sixty five minutes of meaningless blabber, doubling down on his year of failure.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Mr. Limbaugh is at this moment providing the talking points which will be posted here for the next few days. He is ranting and raving to the RW base with the usual hysterics, readiing from a script written in the days before the STOU address, and filled with plaitutudes soon to fill this and other messages boards by the parrots on the right.
Rather than listen to his words, think about our current problems and evaluate suggested solutions, the conservative fringe - which includes and is lead by Limbaugh - has continued the attack on the president which began even before his nomination.

I'll wait and allow the liberals to tell me what Mr Limbaugh has to say. They seem to listen to him more than I ever have.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Seemed more like an angry lecture than a State of the Union speech. This guy's ego is completely out of control. He also has a very bad habit of sounding very condescending. My guess is that he picked this up from the honorable Reverend Wright. He just sounded angry and preachy to me. He gets an F fo sho.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The guy's a total douche.