Palestine Today

[José]

The lands of the Ottoman Empire belonged to other people well before the Ottomans got there​

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Sure they did...

They belonged to the jewish ancestors of the arabized people of Palestine not to Poles and Belarussians whose ancestors happened to change religion.

 

[José]

Since "Palestine" never was a state, how could land be stolen from something that never was? "Palestine" was what the ancient Romans called the ancient (ex-)kingdom of Israel after the Romans burnt down the Second Temple in Jerusalem.

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This is ironic because the fact that native americans had no concept of private property and land possession, let alone, the sophisticated western notions of country and nation-state, doesn't seem to have prevented this jewish-american leader holding an american flag from marching against racial segregation and in favor of compensation for the land theft and historic losses of the native inhabitants:

 

[Mindful]

I try not to do equivalence.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Rep. Rashida Tlaib Successfully Petitions & Passes An Amendment

 

[P F Tinmore]

If we are doing tit-for-tat.

Stolen?

The lands of the Ottoman Empire belonged to other people well before the Ottomans got there—

That is true. The majority of cities and villages in Palestine predate the Ottoman Empire. Who owned the land back then? How did the Empire get that land? Well that is what imperial/colonial powers do. Everything of value just "happens" to fall into their hands.

People who have lived on that land for hundreds even thousands of years have the right to the land.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

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Thousands of Gazans perform Eid AlFitr prayers at eastern borders.

 

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Israeli occupation forces arrest the Palestinian mother and teacher Hanadi Al Halawani after raiding her home in the occupied Jerusalem

 

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Israeli occupation forces arrested the Palestinian young man Mohammed Shehadah after raiding his home in the occupied Jerusalem last night .

 

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[Ropey]

Israeli researchers have developed bacteria fed only with carbon dioxide. The Weizmann Institute of Science in central Israel reported.

The military model 'test' removed ~30% of Hamas terrorists from Gaza in 1 hr.

New carbon dioxide eating bacteria could help fight global warming.

It sure helps the fight against terrorist air breathers. Keep it up pals. Keep listening to leftists like Coyote tell you that your fight is right.

And Pals? Your right of return is to return to Arabia.

 

[Coyote]

Kids are kids...all around the world. They didn’t pick these conflicts. She is so cute

The sad part is that her parents did not pick these conflicts either.

Every individual is different...they might well be just trying to make a life in difficult circumstances like many people. But if your statement is absolving the Palestinian people as a whole that isn’t honest.

 

[Shusha]

People who have lived on that land for hundreds even thousands of years have the right to the land.

We agree.

Also, people who were removed from that land in the process of invasion and colonization have a right to return. Don't you agree?

 

[rylah]

Originally posted by rylah
It was their own choice to side with Britain, and aid them militarily,
in yet another Arab attempt to fortify their colonial hold over the entire middle east.

They're like the kid with a full diaper
walking around the room blaming everyone for the stink.

LOL

You know your opponents in a debate have a weak case in their hands when they don't even bother, don't even try and deny the land theft carried out by Ukrainians and Russians in Palestine.

They just try to convince you the europeans didn't steal "too much" land.

Maybe because it's already ironic enough that people who call themselves 'INVADERS'
would complain about "land theft".

Or maybe because it's that the people who claim Ukrainians and Russians stole their land,
can't even pronounce it's name....

that suggested your were merely quoting that anecdote as a joke.

 

[Ropey]

 

[rylah]

The lands of the Ottoman Empire belonged to other people well before the Ottomans got there​

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Sure they did...

They belonged to the jewish ancestors of the arabized people of Palestine not to Poles and Belarussians whose ancestors happened to change religion.

If the land belonged to Arabized Jews of Palestine, then they certainly had all the authority to liberate their land with all those masses of Poles and Belorussians whom their ancestors circumcised.

 

[José]

The problem with your narrative is the historical fact that the native sephardic-mizrahi community and the small pre-zionist european diaspora regarded the zionist Poles and Belarussians as heretics and blasphemers who wanted to put man above God, as usurpers who wanted to play the role of The Anointed One.

 

[rylah]

Since "Palestine" never was a state, how could land be stolen from something that never was? "Palestine" was what the ancient Romans called the ancient (ex-)kingdom of Israel after the Romans burnt down the Second Temple in Jerusalem.

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This is ironic because the fact that native americans had no concept of private property and land possession, let alone, the sophisticated western notions of country and nation-state, doesn't seem to have prevented this jewish-american leader holding an american flag from marching against racial segregation and in favor of compensation for the land theft and historic losses of the native inhabitants:

Why there be any contradiction?
Historic losses are compensated collectively rather than privately,
international law followed the same principle recognizing the right of the Jewish nation to re-constitute its sovereignty.in indigenous lands.

Would be nice to see an Arab march for compensation of historic loses to native Jews.