PC Fascists To Remove Lee and Jackson from War College Memorials

[paperview]

I guess extreme oversimplification is easier for the average person, uneducated in history and cultural anthropology, to grasp..........
The seeds of the Civil War were planted with the colonization of the Americas and following a series of complex events over the following decades came to fruition with the secession of the South and the start of open warfare.

The seeds which started with a Southern aristocracy that refused to join the Union initially unless their precious peculiar institution was allowed to thrive.

Which let to compromises like granting 3/5ths population count to property, as a horse is property, and that was not represented.

Which led to Southern domination in Congress, by virtue of counting that which is property and could not vote - to nearly 4 million of the 9 million Southerners, which, until that time of the 1860 election (where they did not even allow Lincoln on the ballot in those Southern states) -- they had maintained enough power to satisfy.

Then! Lincoln's election/ Boom. They lost an election. See ya's -- We're taking our marbles and going home now.

Still oversimplifying I see, still focused on only one aspect while ignoring all the rest. I guess none of the other political battles waged by both sides and the other compromises made by both sides have no bearing whatsoever.......... I guess if it doesn't fit your world view you toss it out........
Lincoln's election was simply the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back, nothing more, nothing less.

Yeah, I'm on a message board, not writing a dissertation of the entire history of our Constitutional compromises at the Founding, or things like the Missouri Compromise, the Nullification Crisis, the Compromise of 1850, the Kansas-Nebraska Act, the 1852 SC Convention, Bleeding Kansas, the Dred Scott decision, the John Brown Affair, the threatened expansion of slavery in other territories... and every other fucking detail that led up to the Civil War...

So sue me. The simpletons don't read posts longer than 4 lines here anyway -- but I can plank down a load when needed, and as you & I have interacted for years here now on the matter, you know full well I am fully equipped, when the subject or desire is called for -- in a "JimCrowie" thread, not so much.

It was the election of Lincoln, because the election of a republican meant, to the Southern Slaveholders, their precious love of human bondage was threatened, and that meant WAR!, dammit.

I could note how itchin' itchin' itchin' they were, in 1856 too -- when the Southern press said "'Tis treason to cry "Peace!" "peace!" when there is no peace. There is, there can be, no peace, no lasting union between the south and Black Republicanism"

or that in 1856 if a republican was elected, "the conservative South will burst forth in a carnival of blood..."

But luckily, Buchanan was elected, and they went *phew.*

However, that's all mishmash between the dash, isn't it? When Abe hit the bigtime - that's when they knew it was time to marble on, on, onward! To save the slave for safe-keeping for noble Southron aristocrats e'verware.

 

[Ringel05]

The seeds which started with a Southern aristocracy that refused to join the Union initially unless their precious peculiar institution was allowed to thrive.

Which let to compromises like granting 3/5ths population count to property, as a horse is property, and that was not represented.

Which led to Southern domination in Congress, by virtue of counting that which is property and could not vote - to nearly 4 million of the 9 million Southerners, which, until that time of the 1860 election (where they did not even allow Lincoln on the ballot in those Southern states) -- they had maintained enough power to satisfy.

Then! Lincoln's election/ Boom. They lost an election. See ya's -- We're taking our marbles and going home now.

Still oversimplifying I see, still focused on only one aspect while ignoring all the rest. I guess none of the other political battles waged by both sides and the other compromises made by both sides have no bearing whatsoever.......... I guess if it doesn't fit your world view you toss it out........
Lincoln's election was simply the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back, nothing more, nothing less.

Yeah, I'm on a message board, not writing a dissertation of the entire history of our Constitutional compromises at the Founding, or things like the Missouri Compromise, the Nullification Crisis, the Compromise of 1850, the Kansas-Nebraska Act, the 1852 SC Convention, Bleeding Kansas, the Dred Scott decision, the John Brown Affair, the threatened expansion of slavery in other territories... and every other fucking detail that led up to the Civil War...

So sue me. The simpletons don't read posts longer than 4 lines here anyway -- but I can plank down a load when needed, and as you & I have interacted for years here now on the matter, you know full well I am fully equipped, when the subject or desire is called for -- in a "JimCrowie" thread, not so much.

It was the election of Lincoln, because the election of a republican meant, to the Southern Slaveholders, their precious love of human bondage was threatened, and that meant WAR!, dammit.

I could note how itchin' itchin' itchin' they were, in 1856 too -- when the Southern press said "'Tis treason to cry "Peace!" "peace!" when there is no peace. There is, there can be, no peace, no lasting union between the south and Black Republicanism"

or that in 1856 if a republican was elected, "the conservative South will burst forth in a carnival of blood..."

But luckily, Buchanan was elected, and they went *phew.*

However, that's all mishmash between the dash, isn't it? When Abe hit the bigtime - that's when they knew it was time to marble on, on, onward! To save the slave for safe-keeping for noble Southron aristocrats e'verware.

Sorry, initially looked like you were spewing the banal condensed tripe taught in high school. Didn't realize it was for the consumption of the historically illiterate who wouldn't comprehend the full compendium of cause and effect if their lives depended on it. My apologies.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The seeds which started with a Southern aristocracy that refused to join the Union initially unless their precious peculiar institution was allowed to thrive.

Which let to compromises like granting 3/5ths population count to property, as a horse is property, and that was not represented.

Which led to Southern domination in Congress, by virtue of counting that which is property and could not vote - to nearly 4 million of the 9 million Southerners, which, until that time of the 1860 election (where they did not even allow Lincoln on the ballot in those Southern states) -- they had maintained enough power to satisfy.

Then! Lincoln's election/ Boom. They lost an election. See ya's -- We're taking our marbles and going home now.

Still oversimplifying I see, still focused on only one aspect while ignoring all the rest. I guess none of the other political battles waged by both sides and the other compromises made by both sides have no bearing whatsoever.......... I guess if it doesn't fit your world view you toss it out........
Lincoln's election was simply the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back, nothing more, nothing less.

Yeah, I'm on a message board, not writing a dissertation of the entire history of our Constitutional compromises at the Founding, or things like the Missouri Compromise, the Nullification Crisis, the Compromise of 1850, the Kansas-Nebraska Act, the 1852 SC Convention, Bleeding Kansas, the Dred Scott decision, the John Brown Affair, the threatened expansion of slavery in other territories... and every other fucking detail that led up to the Civil War...

So sue me. The simpletons don't read posts longer than 4 lines here anyway -- but I can plank down a load when needed, and as you & I have interacted for years here now on the matter, you know full well I am fully equipped, when the subject or desire is called for -- in a "JimCrowie" thread, not so much.

It was the election of Lincoln, because the election of a republican meant, to the Southern Slaveholders, their precious love of human bondage was threatened, and that meant WAR!, dammit.

I could note how itchin' itchin' itchin' they were, in 1856 too -- when the Southern press said "'Tis treason to cry "Peace!" "peace!" when there is no peace. There is, there can be, no peace, no lasting union between the south and Black Republicanism"

or that in 1856 if a republican was elected, "the conservative South will burst forth in a carnival of blood..."

But luckily, Buchanan was elected, and they went *phew.*

However, that's all mishmash between the dash, isn't it? When Abe hit the bigtime - that's when they knew it was time to marble on, on, onward! To save the slave for safe-keeping for noble Southron aristocrats e'verware.

*yawn*

Pseudo-fascist rewrite of history to placate identity groups based on race, you are boring.

You simply ignore Lincolns own racism, his repeated declaration that the war was NOT to end slavery, the Souths many protestations over tariffs and Northern dominance, but all you can see is 'white man owned hisself some darkies' and take off into leftwing fascism.

Wow, the South is full fo dem dere racialists, gotta kill em all for dat!

you stupid ignoramus.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Still oversimplifying I see, still focused on only one aspect while ignoring all the rest. I guess none of the other political battles waged by both sides and the other compromises made by both sides have no bearing whatsoever.......... I guess if it doesn't fit your world view you toss it out........
Lincoln's election was simply the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back, nothing more, nothing less.

Yeah, I'm on a message board, not writing a dissertation of the entire history of our Constitutional compromises at the Founding, or things like the Missouri Compromise, the Nullification Crisis, the Compromise of 1850, the Kansas-Nebraska Act, the 1852 SC Convention, Bleeding Kansas, the Dred Scott decision, the John Brown Affair, the threatened expansion of slavery in other territories... and every other fucking detail that led up to the Civil War...

So sue me. The simpletons don't read posts longer than 4 lines here anyway -- but I can plank down a load when needed, and as you & I have interacted for years here now on the matter, you know full well I am fully equipped, when the subject or desire is called for -- in a "JimCrowie" thread, not so much.

It was the election of Lincoln, because the election of a republican meant, to the Southern Slaveholders, their precious love of human bondage was threatened, and that meant WAR!, dammit.

I could note how itchin' itchin' itchin' they were, in 1856 too -- when the Southern press said "'Tis treason to cry "Peace!" "peace!" when there is no peace. There is, there can be, no peace, no lasting union between the south and Black Republicanism"

or that in 1856 if a republican was elected, "the conservative South will burst forth in a carnival of blood..."

But luckily, Buchanan was elected, and they went *phew.*

However, that's all mishmash between the dash, isn't it? When Abe hit the bigtime - that's when they knew it was time to marble on, on, onward! To save the slave for safe-keeping for noble Southron aristocrats e'verware.

Sorry, initially looked like you were spewing the banal condensed tripe taught in high school. Didn't realize it was for the consumption of the historically illiterate who wouldn't comprehend the full compendium of cause and effect if their lives depended on it. My apologies.

Lol, and you bought it or is that your sarcasm?


roflmao

 

[JimBowie1958]

JimBendOver is so butthurt now he's shopping for depends.

Lol, I actually have a real life away from these boards, unlike you libtards, so don't take my absence as having given up, bitch.

My day is never complete if I cant make Swallow eat some shit.

like listening to am radio or watching beck.tv (whatever that is)?

the guy has lost the argument before it even started. Using the Washington Times as a source was his 2nd mistake. His 1st mistake was having that hyperbolic/butt hurt avie. Did I mention that before? He going to prounce around the forum w/ that FAILavie until he gets a mouth-breather elected? Spare us upsidedown flag boi

roflmao, it is so funny to watch libtards declare victory and then busy themselves patting themselves on their own back while lurkers move to the right after reading all your stupid shit.

When I came to these boards I considered myself a bit right of center. But despite my disagreements with the right, I want absolutely no association with the lies, deception and hatred of the leftwing fascists I found here.

And the upside down flag STAYS, bitch, lol, cause I know the more you whine about it the more it is doing its job; reminding people of our nations crisis.

Its a whine avie. Keep it upsidedown flag boi. Shows how much elections hurt your wittle feewings

Dotcom, you are such an ass, why bother with telling all your lies so often?

Do you think you have changed a single mind?

no

You are just tossing shit like a monkey in a zoo.

 

[Ringel05]

Yeah, I'm on a message board, not writing a dissertation of the entire history of our Constitutional compromises at the Founding, or things like the Missouri Compromise, the Nullification Crisis, the Compromise of 1850, the Kansas-Nebraska Act, the 1852 SC Convention, Bleeding Kansas, the Dred Scott decision, the John Brown Affair, the threatened expansion of slavery in other territories... and every other fucking detail that led up to the Civil War...

So sue me. The simpletons don't read posts longer than 4 lines here anyway -- but I can plank down a load when needed, and as you & I have interacted for years here now on the matter, you know full well I am fully equipped, when the subject or desire is called for -- in a "JimCrowie" thread, not so much.

It was the election of Lincoln, because the election of a republican meant, to the Southern Slaveholders, their precious love of human bondage was threatened, and that meant WAR!, dammit.

I could note how itchin' itchin' itchin' they were, in 1856 too -- when the Southern press said "'Tis treason to cry "Peace!" "peace!" when there is no peace. There is, there can be, no peace, no lasting union between the south and Black Republicanism"

or that in 1856 if a republican was elected, "the conservative South will burst forth in a carnival of blood..."

But luckily, Buchanan was elected, and they went *phew.*

However, that's all mishmash between the dash, isn't it? When Abe hit the bigtime - that's when they knew it was time to marble on, on, onward! To save the slave for safe-keeping for noble Southron aristocrats e'verware.

Sorry, initially looked like you were spewing the banal condensed tripe taught in high school. Didn't realize it was for the consumption of the historically illiterate who wouldn't comprehend the full compendium of cause and effect if their lives depended on it. My apologies.

Lol, and you bought it or is that your sarcasm?


roflmao

Actually Paperview is a historian and works with the Civil War era, actual period documentation. It's something I had forgotten. Paper and I have had discussions in the past concerning this and she is completely correct, though rather blunt with the delivery, understandably so.
Oh and I'm a historian, sociologist and cultural anthropologist by training (school) and avid self study not to mention 2 years of psychology and biology.

 

[rightwinger]

Still oversimplifying I see, still focused on only one aspect while ignoring all the rest. I guess none of the other political battles waged by both sides and the other compromises made by both sides have no bearing whatsoever.......... I guess if it doesn't fit your world view you toss it out........
Lincoln's election was simply the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back, nothing more, nothing less.

Yeah, I'm on a message board, not writing a dissertation of the entire history of our Constitutional compromises at the Founding, or things like the Missouri Compromise, the Nullification Crisis, the Compromise of 1850, the Kansas-Nebraska Act, the 1852 SC Convention, Bleeding Kansas, the Dred Scott decision, the John Brown Affair, the threatened expansion of slavery in other territories... and every other fucking detail that led up to the Civil War...

So sue me. The simpletons don't read posts longer than 4 lines here anyway -- but I can plank down a load when needed, and as you & I have interacted for years here now on the matter, you know full well I am fully equipped, when the subject or desire is called for -- in a "JimCrowie" thread, not so much.

It was the election of Lincoln, because the election of a republican meant, to the Southern Slaveholders, their precious love of human bondage was threatened, and that meant WAR!, dammit.

I could note how itchin' itchin' itchin' they were, in 1856 too -- when the Southern press said "'Tis treason to cry "Peace!" "peace!" when there is no peace. There is, there can be, no peace, no lasting union between the south and Black Republicanism"

or that in 1856 if a republican was elected, "the conservative South will burst forth in a carnival of blood..."

But luckily, Buchanan was elected, and they went *phew.*

However, that's all mishmash between the dash, isn't it? When Abe hit the bigtime - that's when they knew it was time to marble on, on, onward! To save the slave for safe-keeping for noble Southron aristocrats e'verware.

*yawn*

Pseudo-fascist rewrite of history to placate identity groups based on race, you are boring.

You simply ignore Lincolns own racism, his repeated declaration that the war was NOT to end slavery, the Souths many protestations over tariffs and Northern dominance, but all you can see is 'white man owned hisself some darkies' and take off into leftwing fascism.

Wow, the South is full fo dem dere racialists, gotta kill em all for dat!

you stupid ignoramus.

For his time, Lincoln was far from racist

In terms of abolitition, he was one of the most liberal thinkers of his day

 

[JakeStarkey]

JimCrowie has been bowied for sure.

Fuck off you little piss ant liar.

Lol you still conquer Antarcica? olol

Yup, you got bowied.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Sorry, initially looked like you were spewing the banal condensed tripe taught in high school. Didn't realize it was for the consumption of the historically illiterate who wouldn't comprehend the full compendium of cause and effect if their lives depended on it. My apologies.

Lol, and you bought it or is that your sarcasm?


roflmao

Actually Paperview is a historian and works with the Civil War era, actual period documentation. It's something I had forgotten. Paper and I have had discussions in the past concerning this and she is completely correct, though rather blunt with the delivery, understandably so.
Oh and I'm a historian, sociologist and cultural anthropologist by training (school) and avid self study not to mention 2 years of psychology and biology.

No one on this Board is as knowledgeable or objective as paperview on Civil War subjects.

If you ask her nicely, she may share here bibliographies and document downloads with you.

 

[Ringel05]

Lol, and you bought it or is that your sarcasm?


roflmao

Actually Paperview is a historian and works with the Civil War era, actual period documentation. It's something I had forgotten. Paper and I have had discussions in the past concerning this and she is completely correct, though rather blunt with the delivery, understandably so.
Oh and I'm a historian, sociologist and cultural anthropologist by training (school) and avid self study not to mention 2 years of psychology and biology.

No one on this Board is as knowledgeable or objective as paperview on Civil War subjects.

If you ask her nicely, she may share here bibliographies and document downloads with you.

I know. I'm well versed in colonial and US history/culture up to the reconstruction and WWII but compared to her I'm an amateur.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Actually Paperview is a historian and works with the Civil War era, actual period documentation. It's something I had forgotten. Paper and I have had discussions in the past concerning this and she is completely correct, though rather blunt with the delivery, understandably so.
Oh and I'm a historian, sociologist and cultural anthropologist by training (school) and avid self study not to mention 2 years of psychology and biology.

No one on this Board is as knowledgeable or objective as paperview on Civil War subjects.

If you ask her nicely, she may share here bibliographies and document downloads with you.

I know. I'm well versed in colonial and US history/culture up to the reconstruction and WWII but compared to her I'm an amateur.

Yup, she is amazing, and we are fortunate to have her on the Board to share the knowledge and keep us straight with the narrative.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Sorry, initially looked like you were spewing the banal condensed tripe taught in high school. Didn't realize it was for the consumption of the historically illiterate who wouldn't comprehend the full compendium of cause and effect if their lives depended on it. My apologies.

Lol, and you bought it or is that your sarcasm?


roflmao

Actually Paperview is a historian and works with the Civil War era, actual period documentation. It's something I had forgotten. Paper and I have had discussions in the past concerning this and she is completely correct, though rather blunt with the delivery, understandably so.
Oh and I'm a historian, sociologist and cultural anthropologist by training (school) and avid self study not to mention 2 years of psychology and biology.

Are you really making the argument that she is right due to her credentials?

Seriously?

My God, we are doomed.

 

[Dot Com]

JimCrowie still bumpin' his confederate pride thread based on a Washington Times article?

 

[JimBowie1958]

JimCrowie still bumpin' his confederate pride thread based on a Washington Times article?

Dotcom still trolling threads for chuckles and whine?

Fuck off, you little bitch

 

[Dot Com]

They also didn't put them back up till a decision can be made, dumbass.

Did you make that up, dumbass?

adding that the portraits were rehung on a third-floor hallway.

“[Lee] was certainly not good for the nation. This is the guy we faced on the battlefield whose entire purpose in life was to destroy the nation as it was then conceived. … This is all part of an informed discussion.”

Read more: U.S. Army mulls wiping out memory of Robert E. Lee, 'Stonewall' Jackson - Washington Times
Follow us: [MENTION=39892]Was[/MENTION]htimes on Twitter

lol, no, they did not put them back up where they were originally, and they are still in consideration of removing them entirely.

IOW's- your thread is a lie JimCrowie1958 Why didn't you put the word "considering" in your thread title boy?

Someone needs to just come out & say it: JimCrowie1958 is an agenda-setting, lie manufacturing, little bitch boy

 

[JimBowie1958]

Did you make that up, dumbass?

adding that the portraits were rehung on a third-floor hallway.

“[Lee] was certainly not good for the nation. This is the guy we faced on the battlefield whose entire purpose in life was to destroy the nation as it was then conceived. … This is all part of an informed discussion.”

Read more: U.S. Army mulls wiping out memory of Robert E. Lee, 'Stonewall' Jackson - Washington Times
Follow us: [MENTION=39892]Was[/MENTION]htimes on Twitter

lol, no, they did not put them back up where they were originally, and they are still in consideration of removing them entirely.

IOW's- your thread is a lie JimCrowie1958 Why didn't you put the word "considering" in your thread title boy?

Someone needs to just come out & say it: JimCrowie1958 is an agenda-setting, lie manufacturing, little bitch boy

Lol, I don't give a fuck what you try to think you little shithead.

Readers can make up their own minds what is strong argument and what is not, but I know that you little libtards don't have an honest fucking bone your whole damned body, so I don't count you little fascists for a nanosecond.

Eat shit, whore.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Lol, and you bought it or is that your sarcasm?


roflmao

Actually Paperview is a historian and works with the Civil War era, actual period documentation. It's something I had forgotten. Paper and I have had discussions in the past concerning this and she is completely correct, though rather blunt with the delivery, understandably so.
Oh and I'm a historian, sociologist and cultural anthropologist by training (school) and avid self study not to mention 2 years of psychology and biology.

Are you really making the argument that she is right due to her credentials?

Seriously?

My God, we are doomed.

Yes, libtards making an appeal to authority, an internet poseur who could be a fucking French model for all they know, lololol or a Jake the Fake Starkey lean mean fighting machine, roflmao.

 

[Dot Com]

JimCrowie1958 started a thread w/ an agenda-driven/misleading title. Sad that

 

[Dot Com]

Eat shit, whore.

aren't you supposed to be doing homework about now Scooter?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Eat shit, whore.

aren't you supposed to be doing homework about now Scooter?

lol still trolling, I see, idiot