pharmacist have 1st Amendment right to refuse to dispense Plan B

actually you need a state to validate you marriage in order to quality for survivor and tax benefits.

No you do not. You simply need a contract. A state marriage certificate is such a contract. But a person could just have a survivor's benefits contract.
where in the US tax code does it say you can get federal survivor benefits without a marriage certificate?
just ask a gay married couple how that is working out for them.

First the tax code has NOTHING to do with federal survivor benefits.

Second, you didn't previously limit your question to SURVIVOR benefits.. Survivor benefits surely do have limitations on them because they are in fact deemed to only apply to SURVIVORS , meaning family members.
 
Umm with the day after pill they only have to delay the customer of a day or so.


I once had a pharmicist refuse to fill a pain pill prescription for me.
I complained to the state medical board.
I heard the pharmacist was put on probation for his sins.

Would it be a religious thing for a pharmacist to refuse to prescribe other non pregnancy related medicines? Where would it stop?
NO viagra prescriptions?

Why would it have to stop?

By the way, the DEA thinks pharmacists are supposed to make sure you don't get too many pain pills.
the size of the prescription is determined by the doctor, not the pharmacist. most typically other than dispensing medications, pharmacists consult patients on the type of the medications they are taking, and it is also their responsibility to make sure that they will not knowingly issue 2 or more medications that could cause adverse side effects.

Many times the doseage needs to be corrected as well.
 

Dig a little further Quantam and you will see that the EMPLOYER fired the first employee because the EMPLOYER did not give employee permission to not sell said product and in the other case they were sued and won when the court ruled that no one could be compelled to offer certain products.

Plasmaball proves our point with his own links. Makes our job easier.

He always does, mostly because he doesn't actually think.
 
No you do not. You simply need a contract. A state marriage certificate is such a contract. But a person could just have a survivor's benefits contract.
where in the US tax code does it say you can get federal survivor benefits without a marriage certificate?
just ask a gay married couple how that is working out for them.

First the tax code has NOTHING to do with federal survivor benefits.

Second, you didn't previously limit your question to SURVIVOR benefits.. Survivor benefits surely do have limitations on them because they are in fact deemed to only apply to SURVIVORS , meaning family members.
survivor benefits are paid by social security, which is part of the US tax code. survivor benefits go to children and spouses. if you have no children and the state does not recognize your marriage, then in fact you are not eligible for survivor benefits.
 
Umm with the day after pill they only have to delay the customer of a day or so.


I once had a pharmicist refuse to fill a pain pill prescription for me.
I complained to the state medical board.
I heard the pharmacist was put on probation for his sins.

Would it be a religious thing for a pharmacist to refuse to prescribe other non pregnancy related medicines? Where would it stop?
NO viagra prescriptions?

Why would it have to stop?

By the way, the DEA thinks pharmacists are supposed to make sure you don't get too many pain pills.
the size of the prescription is determined by the doctor, not the pharmacist. most typically other than dispensing medications, pharmacists consult patients on the type of the medications they are taking, and it is also their responsibility to make sure that they will not knowingly issue 2 or more medications that could cause adverse side effects.

Incorrect, if a customer brings in 10 prescriptions for 50 pills of Vicodin each. Guess what, the pharmacist isn't going to say "derr okay I can't interfere, it's just my job to fill the prescriptions" and in fact if he did fill the 10 prescriptions the DEA would hang him by his balls.
 
where in the US tax code does it say you can get federal survivor benefits without a marriage certificate?
just ask a gay married couple how that is working out for them.

First the tax code has NOTHING to do with federal survivor benefits.

Second, you didn't previously limit your question to SURVIVOR benefits.. Survivor benefits surely do have limitations on them because they are in fact deemed to only apply to SURVIVORS , meaning family members.
survivor benefits are paid by social security, which is part of the US tax code. survivor benefits go to children and spouses. if you have no children and the state does not recognize your marriage, then in fact you are not eligible for survivor benefits.

tax code = irs , survivor benefits = social security administration. You might as well say filling out your W2= joining the Army.
 
Why would it have to stop?

By the way, the DEA thinks pharmacists are supposed to make sure you don't get too many pain pills.
the size of the prescription is determined by the doctor, not the pharmacist. most typically other than dispensing medications, pharmacists consult patients on the type of the medications they are taking, and it is also their responsibility to make sure that they will not knowingly issue 2 or more medications that could cause adverse side effects.

Incorrect, if a customer brings in 10 prescriptions for 50 pills of Vicodin each. Guess what, the pharmacist isn't going to say "derr okay I can't interfere, it's just my job to fill the prescriptions" and in fact if he did fill the 10 prescriptions the DEA would hang him by his balls.

My Dad used to call the police on these types frequently. Oxycotin mostly.
 
the size of the prescription is determined by the doctor, not the pharmacist. most typically other than dispensing medications, pharmacists consult patients on the type of the medications they are taking, and it is also their responsibility to make sure that they will not knowingly issue 2 or more medications that could cause adverse side effects.

Incorrect, if a customer brings in 10 prescriptions for 50 pills of Vicodin each. Guess what, the pharmacist isn't going to say "derr okay I can't interfere, it's just my job to fill the prescriptions" and in fact if he did fill the 10 prescriptions the DEA would hang him by his balls.

My Dad used to call the police on these types frequently. Oxycotin mostly.

EXACTLY. Guess you're dad realized the DEA having you by the balls is not a good thing. :lol:
 
I remember the first time I ever read about a pharmacist refusing to honor a valid prescription from a doctor to his patient because of so-called conscience. It flabbergasted me that any pharmacist could try to interject him or herself into the doctor patient relationship.

The pharmacist is asked to prescribe the medication and isn't asked to take the medication. He isn't really involved in the doctor patient relationship in any relevant way.

The good analogy would be this: If a man came into a restaurant and ordered pork chops which were on the menu and a Jewish waiter refused to serve the meal due to religious objections.

Where does this silliness end? There's all manner of products and medicines that are sold in pharmacies that can be used and are used in ways that religious and nonreligious people might find objectionable. What business is it of theirs?

You better hope the pharmacist injects themselves in the doctor/patient relationship. Doctors frequently prescribe drugs which can kill when mixed with other medicines the patient is taking. It is part of their job to interject themselves and protect the patient. Your analogy is poor to say the least.

Damn good point.
 
I don't see how religious freedom applies at all. Nobody is forcing these people to be pharmacists. So they aren't having their freedom violated because they volunteered for the job. At least, that's what the right wing-nuts claim any other time.
 
the size of the prescription is determined by the doctor, not the pharmacist. most typically other than dispensing medications, pharmacists consult patients on the type of the medications they are taking, and it is also their responsibility to make sure that they will not knowingly issue 2 or more medications that could cause adverse side effects.

Incorrect, if a customer brings in 10 prescriptions for 50 pills of Vicodin each. Guess what, the pharmacist isn't going to say "derr okay I can't interfere, it's just my job to fill the prescriptions" and in fact if he did fill the 10 prescriptions the DEA would hang him by his balls.

My Dad used to call the police on these types frequently. Oxycotin mostly.
what part of it is also their responsibility to make sure that they will not knowingly issue medications that could cause adverse side effects. doesnt make sense? in most cases it is 2 or more. although in your example it is the same drug but more than 1 prescription. not exactly a glaring oversight on my part.
 
how do you get survivor benefits from social security without a marriage certificate? children can get them, but other couples can not. just ask any married gay couple.
 
we are not referencing the business owner in this argument. we are talking about his employee. i have already stated that if a business owner has chosen not to carry a product, then that is his right. but for an employee to be able to pick and choose which prescription to fill can get hairy and cause a lot more problems.

That is still an issue between the employer and the employee. If the employer knows that his employee won't sell something, and supports it, then I think the government should stay out of it.
even if that product is a government regulated product? so your advocating for one individual to be the gate keeper of another individual choice?

No, I am advocating against that.
 
how do you get survivor benefits from social security without a marriage certificate? children can get them, but other couples can not. just ask any married gay couple.

common law marriage survivors can in fact collect social security survivor benefits.
 
That is still an issue between the employer and the employee. If the employer knows that his employee won't sell something, and supports it, then I think the government should stay out of it.
even if that product is a government regulated product? so your advocating for one individual to be the gate keeper of another individual choice?

No, I am advocating against that.
im honestly confused. if youre advocating again one individual being the gate keeper for another individuals choice, then why were you saying the the pharmacist can deny prescriptions? they are not being forces to take the medication, only distribute it.
 
That is still an issue between the employer and the employee. If the employer knows that his employee won't sell something, and supports it, then I think the government should stay out of it.
even if that product is a government regulated product? so your advocating for one individual to be the gate keeper of another individual choice?

No, I am advocating against that.

why is he screaming that the government should be some gatekeeper between a company and a customer all the while hollering about us doing something we aren't doing?

Does he truly not understand that if you wish to buy a product and business A says "no we don't want to sell that to you" that he can simply walk across the street and business B will gladly do business with him?
 
actually you need a state to validate you marriage in order to quality for survivor and tax benefits.

No you do not. You simply need a contract. A state marriage certificate is such a contract. But a person could just have a survivor's benefits contract.
where in the US tax code does it say you can get federal survivor benefits without a marriage certificate?
just ask a gay married couple how that is working out for them.

Hate to point out the obvious here, but federal law actually prohibits survivor benefits from going to a gay partner. Other than that, you can designate who gets your benefits.
 
Incorrect, if a customer brings in 10 prescriptions for 50 pills of Vicodin each. Guess what, the pharmacist isn't going to say "derr okay I can't interfere, it's just my job to fill the prescriptions" and in fact if he did fill the 10 prescriptions the DEA would hang him by his balls.

My Dad used to call the police on these types frequently. Oxycotin mostly.

EXACTLY. Guess you're dad realized the DEA having you by the balls is not a good thing. :lol:

Preferable to the two times people came in with guns to get it. Also, the dozen times they broke in at night.
 
even if that product is a government regulated product? so your advocating for one individual to be the gate keeper of another individual choice?

No, I am advocating against that.
im honestly confused. if youre advocating again one individual being the gate keeper for another individuals choice, then why were you saying the the pharmacist can deny prescriptions? they are not being forces to take the medication, only distribute it.

Okay let's try this

Let's say I'm selling cookies, and you want to buy one, but I for whatever reason don't want to sell you one. Now let's assume that Quantam is in charge of cookie control. Does he have the right to tell me I have to sell you a cookie?

Yes or no?
 

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