Russian Conscripts Are Dying in Kursk. How Will the Kremlin Control the Narrative?

[Doc7505]

Russian Conscripts Are Dying in Kursk. How Will the Kremlin Control the Narrative?​

Russian Conscripts Are Dying in Kursk. How Will the Kremlin Control the Narrative? | National Review

Putin’s war may unleash forces he’d prefer to remain contained.

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21 Aug 2024 ~~ By Mark Antonio Wright

A notable outcome of Ukraine’s surprise invasion of the Russian province of Kursk — now stretching into its third week — is the Russian army’s reliance on thousands of unprepared, under-equipped, and poorly led conscripts in its attempt to repel the invasion.
It’s often under-appreciated in the West just how unpopular and politically sensitive the draft is in Vladimir Putin’s Russia. The use of conscripts in Afghanistan and Chechnya (and their deaths in their thousands) was a huge part of the unpopularity of those wars inside Russia. In those years, the draft set off protests and a Russian “mothers’ movement” that elicited concessions from the Kremlin.
And one of the big concessions that the Kremlin has made during its “special military operation” in Ukraine is that Russian conscripts — usually drafted for one-year terms — would not be used outside sovereign Russian territory, i.e., they wouldn’t be used in Ukraine. Instead, the war would only be fought by “contract soldiers,” volunteers who have signed on to fight, usually after being offered significant financial incentives from the Russian state, as well as large numbers of former convicts, offered their freedom should they survive the meat grinder.
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Indeed, according to Luxmoore, “Russia’s VK social network was full of posts from mothers searching for information about conscript sons who had gone missing since Aug. 6. A VK page dedicated to the search for missing soldiers, which has 59,000 subscribers, was receiving several posts a day.”

Obituaries of dead conscripts were also being published on local news sites across Russia, on the social-media profiles of the karate and boxing clubs they fought in and in local church pages. The young men confirmed dead or reported missing were described as teenagers who hadn’t had a chance to live life yet and weren’t ready for war.​

Of course, this being Russia, where it’s almost tradition for the state to not give a damn about its dead young soldiers, one perhaps shouldn’t be too surprised when someone turns an already volatile situation up to eleven.
According to the Telegraph, Apti Alaudinov — a lieutenant of the brutal Chechen warlord Ramzan Kadyrov, a Putin ally — has been busy mocking the “sobs” of the mothers of Russian conscripts.


Commentary:
It's estimated that Ukrainian forces have taken nearly 1,000 KM since the start of the counter-offensive.
Putin has thrown thousands of draftee's (conscripts) into the fight and now is losing more than 1,000 a day dead and captured.
Putin could care less about Russia, the loss of land or the loss of men. Putin wants the 500,000 tons of Lithium that was discovered in Eastern Ukraine a few months before his surprise attack. Putin doesn't care if millions die. This war is about greed. Money.
So far according to reports, 600,000 dead and maimed for life Russian soldiers and over 3,000 wrecked tanks, BTR's and several ships including a submarine..
Putin doesn't have any other option while trying to keep his persona as Russia's protector. In order to mount an effective counterattack, he's going to need a force of trained troops or risk losing untrained ones on the same scale as he's losing men and material in Ukraine.
Announcing a second conscription of 500,000 civilians would be troublesome, at best, and end his reign at the worst. Besides, in the time it would take to train them, it could take even more troops to expel the Ukrainians an continue the war he's already got.
For a small fraction of our annual DOD budget, the US and NATO have enabled Ukraine to literally destroy half the Russian army. Now add to that major ships, submarines, strategic air assets, and critical infrastructure. Finally, we will force Russia to pay the cost of rebuilding and rearming Ukraine so this never happens again... The seized $300 billion is a good start. Slava Ukraine for paying the price of liberty in blood, just like we did.

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[1srelluc]

And how that is different from any other war Russia has even been involved in?

 

[Oddball]

This is how Eurasian land wars are fought....This is why Murica needs to stay the hell out.

 

[JWBooth]

Russian Conscripts Are Dying in Kursk. How Will the Kremlin Control the Narrative?​

As are the Ukronazis, their kidnapped off the streets volunteers, and the NATO mercs.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[1srelluc]

Nice head roll.

 

[Deadstick]

Russian Conscripts Are Dying in Kursk. How Will the Kremlin Control the Narrative?​

As are the Ukronazis, their kidnapped off the streets volunteers, and the NATO mercs.

Those NATO mercs should be shot out of hand, i posted a thread on here a few days ago called Wolves in Sheep's clothing that shows who they are.

 

[JWBooth]

Those NATO mercs should be shot out of hand, i posted a thread on here a few days ago called Wolves in Sheep's clothing that shows who they are.

I haven't noticed anyone giving anybody a second thought to the outcome of mercs. Come to think of it, when actual NATO personnel get toasted while training the Ukronazis, nobody says a word.

 

[Deadstick]

I haven't noticed anyone giving anybody a second thought to the outcome of mercs. Come to think of it, when actual NATO personnel get toasted while training the Ukronazis, nobody says a word.

Well there are or were many so called mercs from those Countries playing at Rambo many were blown to hell in Combat many others fled back to where they came from when they realized it isn't like the movies, like i said i would shoot any Mercenary or give them a fair trial before they are hung, several were captured at the Steel plant in Mariupol two Brits i can think of they were sentenced to death but released later, they didn't deserve to be released they went to Donbass to kill people even before the war with Russia, one of them said he was with a mortar team and didn't even know what he was shelling, and theybhave been hiding NATO personnel who have been killed.

 

[luiza]

Russian Conscripts Are Dying in Kursk. How Will the Kremlin Control the Narrative?​

Come on Doc .
That garbage was written nearly two months ago .
Even then it was standard Mossad and Kyiv inspired propaganda .

Right now the Ukraine /disguised NATO force inside Russia is cut off and in the process of being terminated .
The Kursk incursion has been a disaster for the Mad Midget .
Even his own military criticised this PR offensive . And the cost has been huge .

Enough said . Perhaps you misjudged this Topic not noticing that the report was old and almost certainly Fake .

 

[Doc7505]

Come on Doc .
That garbage was written nearly two months ago .
Even then it was standard Mossad and Kyiv inspired propaganda .

Right now the Ukraine /disguised NATO force inside Russia is cut off and in the process of being terminated .
The Kursk incursion has been a disaster for the Mad Midget .
Even his own military criticised this PR offensive . And the cost has been huge .

Enough said . Perhaps you misjudged this Topic not noticing that the report was old and almost certainly Fake .

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Ukraine’s military success is reshaping Russia as well as the war​

Support for Vladimir Putin’s regime is narrowing fast​

Ukraine’s military success is reshaping Russia as well as the war

Support for Vladimir Putin’s regime is narrowing fast

www.economist.com

6 Oct 2024 ~~

“RUSSIA, RUSSIA, Russia,” chanted Vladimir Putin on September 30th, as he announced the annexation of four Ukrainian provinces: Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhia and Kherson. But within hours his newly expanded country began shrinking. The Ukrainian army smashed through Russia’s left and right flanks, at the two extremes of a vast front stretching from the Black Sea in the south to the Donbas region in the east (see map). “Not since the initial part of Operation Barbarossa in the second world war has the Russian army had such a terrible series of reverses on the battlefield,” says Mick Ryan, a retired Australian general.

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Top Ukrainian commander says his forces now control almost 390 square miles of Russia's Kursk region

The statement marked the first time a Ukrainian military official has publicly commented on the gains of the lightning incursion that has embarrassed the Kremlin.

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I suggest you read up on what's happening in the Ukraine conflict.
There are no bloodless wars. People die and in the case of Russia, their use of manpower has been wasted on a fools scheme vreadted by Putin, his dealings with Obama and the weakness shown by Biden.
Unfortunately, it's the people of the Ukrains and Russia that bleed for it, not the tyrants that created the problems...

 

[Litwin]

And how that is different from any other war Russia has even been involved in?

which Moscow horde has lost ? i dont know, tell me ?

Moscow horde´s war record :-

1856 defeated by Britain and France

1905 defeated by Japan

1917 defeated by Germany

1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states

1939 defeated by Finland

1969 defeated by China

1989 defeated by Afghanistan

1989 defeated in the Cold War.

1996 defeated by Chechnya

2022 defeated by Ukraine

WW2 won USA/Britain , meanwhile Stalin's officers were shot or sent to the Gulags. Millions went to the Gulags, including Solzhenitsyn

Moscow's only victories come from invading smaller countries :-

a) Hungary 1956

b) Czechoslovakia 1968

c) Moldova 1992

d) Georgia 2008

 

[Deadstick]

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Ukraine’s military success is reshaping Russia as well as the war​

Support for Vladimir Putin’s regime is narrowing fast​

Ukraine’s military success is reshaping Russia as well as the war

Support for Vladimir Putin’s regime is narrowing fast

www.economist.com

6 Oct 2024 ~~

“RUSSIA, RUSSIA, Russia,” chanted Vladimir Putin on September 30th, as he announced the annexation of four Ukrainian provinces: Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhia and Kherson. But within hours his newly expanded country began shrinking. The Ukrainian army smashed through Russia’s left and right flanks, at the two extremes of a vast front stretching from the Black Sea in the south to the Donbas region in the east (see map). “Not since the initial part of Operation Barbarossa in the second world war has the Russian army had such a terrible series of reverses on the battlefield,” says Mick Ryan, a retired Australian general.

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Top Ukrainian commander says his forces now control almost 390 square miles of Russia's Kursk region

The statement marked the first time a Ukrainian military official has publicly commented on the gains of the lightning incursion that has embarrassed the Kremlin.

apnews.com

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edition.cnn.com

I suggest you read up on what's happening in the Ukraine conflict.
There are no bloodless wars. People die and in the case of Russia, their use of manpower has been wasted on a fools scheme vreadted by Putin, his dealings with Obama and the weakness shown by Biden.
Unfortunately, it's the people of the Ukrains and Russia that bleed for it, not the tyrants that created the problems...

You are delusional, also ignorant of how all this started, it started with the overthrow of the elected Government in Ukraine, end of story.

 

[Litwin]

Russian Conscripts Are Dying in Kursk. How Will the Kremlin Control the Narrative?​

As are the Ukronazis, their kidnapped off the streets volunteers, and the NATO mercs.

you are the worst whore here

the reality :

 

[Litwin]

You are delusional, also ignorant of how all this started, it started with the overthrow of the elected Government in Ukraine, end of story.

 

[Deadstick]

It's past your bedtime kid you have School tomorrow.

 

[Litwin]

It's past your bedtime kid you have School tomorrow.

 

[luiza]

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Ukraine’s military success is reshaping Russia as well as the war​

Support for Vladimir Putin’s regime is narrowing fast​

Ukraine’s military success is reshaping Russia as well as the war

Support for Vladimir Putin’s regime is narrowing fast

www.economist.com

6 Oct 2024 ~~

“RUSSIA, RUSSIA, Russia,” chanted Vladimir Putin on September 30th, as he announced the annexation of four Ukrainian provinces: Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhia and Kherson. But within hours his newly expanded country began shrinking. The Ukrainian army smashed through Russia’s left and right flanks, at the two extremes of a vast front stretching from the Black Sea in the south to the Donbas region in the east (see map). “Not since the initial part of Operation Barbarossa in the second world war has the Russian army had such a terrible series of reverses on the battlefield,” says Mick Ryan, a retired Australian general.

**********​

Top Ukrainian commander says his forces now control almost 390 square miles of Russia's Kursk region

The statement marked the first time a Ukrainian military official has publicly commented on the gains of the lightning incursion that has embarrassed the Kremlin.

apnews.com

**********​

Loading…

edition.cnn.com

I suggest you read up on what's happening in the Ukraine conflict.
There are no bloodless wars. People die and in the case of Russia, their use of manpower has been wasted on a fools scheme vreadted by Putin, his dealings with Obama and the weakness shown by Biden.
Unfortunately, it's the people of the Ukrains and Russia that bleed for it, not the tyrants that created the problems...

Suggest you read my posting history .
I will be amazed if there is anybody here who has more accurate and up to date information .
And by some margin .

I am uninterested in your ill formed wider opinions
I am commenting that you posted a report written almost two months ago which has all the hallmarks of being Fake .

 

[Litwin]