Bull Ring @Sealybobo : You scream Hail Satan in my thread, challenge my claim, I answer, you ran. Get in the ring.

Donā€™t expect the coward to show up,If he does by some miracle,he will cowardly evade your facts and change the subject.He never addresses evidence and facts and always does that when he gets checkmated.I have handed his ass to him on a platter too many times to remember in the past that the dems are as evil and corrupt as the repubs are and he never addresses the evidence on the corruption of the dems.

I took him to school that he was an idiot to say Bush was corrupt but his hero Obama was not when he ignored pesky facts that Obama lied about everything he said he would do once he got elected saying he would reverse bushā€™s patriot act that took away our civil libertys and freedoms allowing the government to illegally spy on its citizens that obozo instead,REINSTATED his patriot act,plus expanding the Middle East war instead of ending it as he said he would.

He always changed the topic saying how trump has not ended the war which has nothing to do with that fact that I proved his hero obozo,is as much a warmonger traitorous pig mass murderer who took a lighter to the constitution every bit as much as bush did.he has to change the topic to either trump or bush when you back him up against the wall with pesky facts he wont acknowledge that his lover Obama was a traiter lying to the people by expanding the policys bush started.

The troll must be on the payroll of the DNC or something because thatā€™s how their bosses train them to troll on boards,evade facts and change the subject just as he always does.lol just watch,instead of acknowledging Obamaā€™s corruption and how he was a traiter to us all,he,ll come on and and evade this post and my facts and start talking about trump or something irrelevent that has nothing to do with the facts u listed on Obamaā€™s corrruption,just watch,lol

Oh and ask him to prove how his governor of his state DEMOCRAT Gretchen Whitmere is not a nazi and traiter to every citizen in Michigan or how DEMOCRAT Governor Newsome of California is also same as her,making facist laws against the people of California that are socialist policys,he will ignore those facts and change the topic to something about trump or something like that I guarantee,never fails. Comedy gold.

Um, what happened to this rule?

"The Bull Ring Rules and Guidelines

+ONLY the participants are allowed to debate/participate/comment in the thread
"

Why are LA Mental Patient's comments here?
I love when you and I agree what a loser la ram is. And what an idiot he is. Conspiracy theorist kook
 
bobo is a big talker.....says he makes 6 figures with his job but yet claims he sells pot for extra money.....says he aint a republican....dont believe him he is just to ashamed to admit he voted for trump...
I made 6 figures only because I sold pot. Otherwise I made almost $90k at my real job.

And you never shut up about how 'rich' you think you are? :rolleyes:
 
Donā€™t expect the coward to show up,If he does by some miracle,he will cowardly evade your facts and change the subject.He never addresses evidence and facts and always does that when he gets checkmated.I have handed his ass to him on a platter too many times to remember in the past that the dems are as evil and corrupt as the repubs are and he never addresses the evidence on the corruption of the dems.

I took him to school that he was an idiot to say Bush was corrupt but his hero Obama was not when he ignored pesky facts that Obama lied about everything he said he would do once he got elected saying he would reverse bushā€™s patriot act that took away our civil libertys and freedoms allowing the government to illegally spy on its citizens that obozo instead,REINSTATED his patriot act,plus expanding the Middle East war instead of ending it as he said he would.

He always changed the topic saying how trump has not ended the war which has nothing to do with that fact that I proved his hero obozo,is as much a warmonger traitorous pig mass murderer who took a lighter to the constitution every bit as much as bush did.he has to change the topic to either trump or bush when you back him up against the wall with pesky facts he wont acknowledge that his lover Obama was a traiter lying to the people by expanding the policys bush started.

The troll must be on the payroll of the DNC or something because thatā€™s how their bosses train them to troll on boards,evade facts and change the subject just as he always does.lol just watch,instead of acknowledging Obamaā€™s corruption and how he was a traiter to us all,he,ll come on and and evade this post and my facts and start talking about trump or something irrelevent that has nothing to do with the facts u listed on Obamaā€™s corrruption,just watch,lol

Oh and ask him to prove how his governor of his state DEMOCRAT Gretchen Whitmere is not a nazi and traiter to every citizen in Michigan or how DEMOCRAT Governor Newsome of California is also same as her,making facist laws against the people of California that are socialist policys,he will ignore those facts and change the topic to something about trump or something like that I guarantee,never fails. Comedy gold.

Um, what happened to this rule?

"The Bull Ring Rules and Guidelines

+ONLY the participants are allowed to debate/participate/comment in the thread
"

Why are LA Mental Patient's comments here?
I love when you and I agree what a loser la ram is. And what an idiot he is. Conspiracy theorist kook
:dig:
funny that you have no desire to talk about his family now as you always do.

One retard agrees with another retard,cute.
Youā€™re the stupid fuck loser same as that retard.your the lunatic conspiracy theorist kook here falling for the conspiracy theory thst there was russia collusion to get trump elected,not me. :cuckoo:

wow your life is so boring and sad you bring up an old dead thread,I only knew to come here now cause a person gave me a thumbs up after I was speaking the truth about you that you evade facts that Obama was a clone of bush and that whitmere and newsome are fascist evil pigs.

oh and if want to keep up with that babble bullshit I am a conspiracy theorist so are you the fact you have always agreed with me 9/11 was an inside job,you ONLY believe it cause it happened under Bush.had it happened under Obama,the entire boards knows you would not believe it being so closed minded on the corruption of the dem party ignoring thst Obama was a clone of Bush. :laughing0301: :cuckoo: :cuckoo:

other than your new butt buddie unkotore,the troll you have even told me you hate before,who acts like a kid always whining to the mods like a kid does to his mommy ,you proved to everybody here you are a coward who ignores the corruption of the dem governors whitmere,cuomo,and newsome changing the subject to trump just as you always do butthurt kid. :auiqs.jpg:
 
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Remember oj was acquitted but found guilty in civil trial?
Seriously? You are going to bring up something that happened like 30 years ago? Lol
Well I c h i g o
that is no surprise in the fact he is such a loser
he constantly resurrects old dead buried threads all the time.He is the only poster on here I know that has that sad obsession.
 
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Donā€™t expect the coward to show up,If he does by some miracle,he will cowardly evade your facts and change the subject.He never addresses evidence and facts and always does that when he gets checkmated.I have handed his ass to him on a platter too many times to remember in the past that the dems are as evil and corrupt as the repubs are and he never addresses the evidence on the corruption of the dems.

I took him to school that he was an idiot to say Bush was corrupt but his hero Obama was not when he ignored pesky facts that Obama lied about everything he said he would do once he got elected saying he would reverse bushā€™s patriot act that took away our civil libertys and freedoms allowing the government to illegally spy on its citizens that obozo instead,REINSTATED his patriot act,plus expanding the Middle East war instead of ending it as he said he would.

He always changed the topic saying how trump has not ended the war which has nothing to do with that fact that I proved his hero obozo,is as much a warmonger traitorous pig mass murderer who took a lighter to the constitution every bit as much as bush did.he has to change the topic to either trump or bush when you back him up against the wall with pesky facts he wont acknowledge that his lover Obama was a traiter lying to the people by expanding the policys bush started.

The troll must be on the payroll of the DNC or something because thatā€™s how their bosses train them to troll on boards,evade facts and change the subject just as he always does.lol just watch,instead of acknowledging Obamaā€™s corruption and how he was a traiter to us all,he,ll come on and and evade this post and my facts and start talking about trump or something irrelevent that has nothing to do with the facts u listed on Obamaā€™s corrruption,just watch,lol

Oh and ask him to prove how his governor of his state DEMOCRAT Gretchen Whitmere is not a nazi and traiter to every citizen in Michigan or how DEMOCRAT Governor Newsome of California is also same as her,making facist laws against the people of California that are socialist policys,he will ignore those facts and change the topic to something about trump or something like that I guarantee,never fails. Comedy gold.
Trump is responsible for sending the mob. Civil court it is.
Which has nothing to do with this post I posted that your heroā€™s whitmere and newsome are fascist socialists. As I said over a year ago and you just proved it again,When you are losing a debate how corrupt your heroā€™s the dems are,you change the subject.I rest my case. :thup:
 
bobo is a big talker.....says he makes 6 figures with his job but yet claims he sells pot for extra money.....says he aint a republican....dont believe him he is just to ashamed to admit he voted for trump...
I made 6 figures only because I sold pot. Otherwise I made almost $90k at my real job.

And you never shut up about how 'rich' you think you are? :rolleyes:
I donā€™t think it I know. Iā€™m not getting a stimulus but I bet you are
 
Donā€™t expect the coward to show up,If he does by some miracle,he will cowardly evade your facts and change the subject.He never addresses evidence and facts and always does that when he gets checkmated.I have handed his ass to him on a platter too many times to remember in the past that the dems are as evil and corrupt as the repubs are and he never addresses the evidence on the corruption of the dems.

I took him to school that he was an idiot to say Bush was corrupt but his hero Obama was not when he ignored pesky facts that Obama lied about everything he said he would do once he got elected saying he would reverse bushā€™s patriot act that took away our civil libertys and freedoms allowing the government to illegally spy on its citizens that obozo instead,REINSTATED his patriot act,plus expanding the Middle East war instead of ending it as he said he would.

He always changed the topic saying how trump has not ended the war which has nothing to do with that fact that I proved his hero obozo,is as much a warmonger traitorous pig mass murderer who took a lighter to the constitution every bit as much as bush did.he has to change the topic to either trump or bush when you back him up against the wall with pesky facts he wont acknowledge that his lover Obama was a traiter lying to the people by expanding the policys bush started.

The troll must be on the payroll of the DNC or something because thatā€™s how their bosses train them to troll on boards,evade facts and change the subject just as he always does.lol just watch,instead of acknowledging Obamaā€™s corruption and how he was a traiter to us all,he,ll come on and and evade this post and my facts and start talking about trump or something irrelevent that has nothing to do with the facts u listed on Obamaā€™s corrruption,just watch,lol

Oh and ask him to prove how his governor of his state DEMOCRAT Gretchen Whitmere is not a nazi and traiter to every citizen in Michigan or how DEMOCRAT Governor Newsome of California is also same as her,making facist laws against the people of California that are socialist policys,he will ignore those facts and change the topic to something about trump or something like that I guarantee,never fails. Comedy gold.

Um, what happened to this rule?

"The Bull Ring Rules and Guidelines

+ONLY the participants are allowed to debate/participate/comment in the thread
"

Why are LA Mental Patient's comments here?
I love when you and I agree what a loser la ram is. And what an idiot he is. Conspiracy theorist kook
:dig:
funny that you have no desire to talk about his family now as you always do.

One retard agrees with another retard,cute.
Youā€™re the stupid fuck loser same as that retard.your the lunatic conspiracy theorist kook here falling for the conspiracy theory thst there was russia collusion to get trump elected,not me. :cuckoo:

wow your life is so boring and sad you bring up an old dead thread,I only knew to come here now cause a person gave me a thumbs up after I was speaking the truth about you that you evade facts that Obama was a clone of bush and that whitmere and newsome are fascist evil pigs.

oh and if want to keep up with that babble bullshit I am a conspiracy theorist so are you the fact you have always agreed with me 9/11 was an inside job,you ONLY believe it cause it happened under Bush.had it happened under Obama,the entire boards knows you would not believe it being so closed minded on the corruption of the dem party ignoring thst Obama was a clone of Bush. :laughing0301: :cuckoo: :cuckoo:

other than your new butt buddie unkotore,the troll you have even told me you hate before,who acts like a kid always whining to the mods like a kid does to his mommy ,you proved to everybody here you are a coward who ignores the corruption of the dem governors whitmere,cuomo,and newsome changing the subject to trump just as you always do butthurt kid. :auiqs.jpg:
Unkotare sucks
 
Donā€™t expect the coward to show up,If he does by some miracle,he will cowardly evade your facts and change the subject.He never addresses evidence and facts and always does that when he gets checkmated.I have handed his ass to him on a platter too many times to remember in the past that the dems are as evil and corrupt as the repubs are and he never addresses the evidence on the corruption of the dems.

I took him to school that he was an idiot to say Bush was corrupt but his hero Obama was not when he ignored pesky facts that Obama lied about everything he said he would do once he got elected saying he would reverse bushā€™s patriot act that took away our civil libertys and freedoms allowing the government to illegally spy on its citizens that obozo instead,REINSTATED his patriot act,plus expanding the Middle East war instead of ending it as he said he would.

He always changed the topic saying how trump has not ended the war which has nothing to do with that fact that I proved his hero obozo,is as much a warmonger traitorous pig mass murderer who took a lighter to the constitution every bit as much as bush did.he has to change the topic to either trump or bush when you back him up against the wall with pesky facts he wont acknowledge that his lover Obama was a traiter lying to the people by expanding the policys bush started.

The troll must be on the payroll of the DNC or something because thatā€™s how their bosses train them to troll on boards,evade facts and change the subject just as he always does.lol just watch,instead of acknowledging Obamaā€™s corruption and how he was a traiter to us all,he,ll come on and and evade this post and my facts and start talking about trump or something irrelevent that has nothing to do with the facts u listed on Obamaā€™s corrruption,just watch,lol

Oh and ask him to prove how his governor of his state DEMOCRAT Gretchen Whitmere is not a nazi and traiter to every citizen in Michigan or how DEMOCRAT Governor Newsome of California is also same as her,making facist laws against the people of California that are socialist policys,he will ignore those facts and change the topic to something about trump or something like that I guarantee,never fails. Comedy gold.
Trump is responsible for sending the mob. Civil court it is.
Which has nothing to do with this post I posted that your heroā€™s whitmere and newsome are fascist socialists. As I said over a year ago and you just proved it again,When you are losing a debate how corrupt your heroā€™s the dems are,you change the subject.I rest my case. :thup:
How about the ncaa tournament? Good stuff
 
bobo is a big talker.....says he makes 6 figures with his job but yet claims he sells pot for extra money.....says he aint a republican....dont believe him he is just to ashamed to admit he voted for trump...
I made 6 figures only because I sold pot. Otherwise I made almost $90k at my real job.

And you never shut up about how 'rich' you think you are? :rolleyes:
I donā€™t think it I know. .......
:lmao:

A little fish in a puddle.
 
bobo is a big talker.....says he makes 6 figures with his job but yet claims he sells pot for extra money.....says he aint a republican....dont believe him he is just to ashamed to admit he voted for trump...
I made 6 figures only because I sold pot. Otherwise I made almost $90k at my real job.

And you never shut up about how 'rich' you think you are? :rolleyes:
I donā€™t think it I know. .......
:lmao:

A little fish in a puddle.
Absolutely. Hell my brother works with people who make way more than he does and he makes over 500k.

Still Iā€™m in the top 10% or something like that.

If you made $500k a year trump would call you a little fish in a puddle too. Iā€™m just bigger than you and my puddle is bigger too. Thereā€™s a cap on what you can make not me.

And if you really have kids, which I donā€™t believe you do, you gonna help them with college?
 
Four farts in a row from you there smellybozo. :abgg2q.jpg: have fun talking to yourself,not going to hang around on an old dead thread.I proved my point to the entire board how you always change the subject to trump when you cannot refute facts that the dem governors are evil destroying America and your hero whitmere is a commie socialist as is newsome and cuomo.

you smoke crack so much everyday,knowing you and that other dumbass shill your wife Penelope,you two no doubt think all the citizens of Michigan are traiters for giving whitmere the middle finger by marching in the streets having their own Christmas celebration when the commie told the state they could not have huge gatherings to celebrate it,yep,they are traiters you both think sense whitmere can do know wrong in two fucked up minds of you two lying agents for China.:auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
Four farts in a row from you there smellybozo. :abgg2q.jpg: have fun talking to yourself,not going to hang around on an old dead thread.I proved my point to the entire board how you always change the subject to trump when you cannot refute facts that the dem governors are evil destroying America and your hero whitmere is a commie socialist as is newsome and cuomo.

you smoke crack so much everyday,knowing you and that other dumbass shill your wife Penelope,you two no doubt think all the citizens of Michigan are traiters for giving whitmere the middle finger by marching in the streets having their own Christmas celebration when the commie told the state they could not have huge gatherings to celebrate it,yep,they are traiters you both think sense whitmere can do know wrong in two fucked up minds of you two lying agents for China.:auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
I don't even read your posts. You're a retarded nutjob. Your posts are repetative and I love making you waste your time stupid.
 
bobo is a big talker.....says he makes 6 figures with his job but yet claims he sells pot for extra money.....says he aint a republican....dont believe him he is just to ashamed to admit he voted for trump...
I made 6 figures only because I sold pot. Otherwise I made almost $90k at my real job.

And you never shut up about how 'rich' you think you are? :rolleyes:
I donā€™t think it I know. .......
:lmao:

A little fish in a puddle.
And if you really have kids, which I donā€™t believe you do...?

???

Now what the hell are you talking about?
 
Poor little Bobo. Bases his entire empty, meaningless life on the belief that he is ā€œrichā€ when in fact he is far from it. That would be fine if there was anything else to the so-called person, but that seems to be about it.
 
bobo is a big talker.....says he makes 6 figures with his job but yet claims he sells pot for extra money.....says he aint a republican....dont believe him he is just to ashamed to admit he voted for trump...
I made 6 figures only because I sold pot. Otherwise I made almost $90k at my real job.
Cool. Do you ship to Nicaragua. I could use 40 kilos
 
Dear sealybobo and The2ndAmendment
Now we have two different challenges here
A. the original issue was proving or disproving the existence or nonexistence of God
(I argue either is faith based, and depends on people agreeing on what they mean by God or what they are defining or representing)
B. whether sealybobo has credibility which is a separate argument than A
As for being Republican or not, my impression of sealybobo was more
like a Libertarian type. So some of these beliefs align with other Republicans
and some are in conflict. That is typical of any other Libertarian, Republican or Constitutional advocate
I have found, and comes with the political territory and nature of these conflicts in beliefs.
For B, I find sealybobo to be no more or less consistent or conflicted than anyone else
in the Libertarian/Conservative/Republican range. My overall impression is that sealybobo
does answer and respond to reasonable explanations and is very open to reconciling where
possible, without compromising where this isn't necessary. I see nothing wrong with any issue of
"credibility" with sealybobo, so I prefer not to let arguments about B distract from
original arguments A which is has great value and interest in content, while B serves no positive purpose.


Can we go back to A?

My argument is sealybobo is
1. defining God to mean something that is relative and doesn't exist universally for everyone according to THAT meaning or representation
2. and we would have to agree what Satan means as well, which has more than one meaning as does God

Satan can mean the negative influence of fear and selfishness
which becomes greed, ill will, and destructive attitudes that destroy relations with others.

Literally, there are dark forces called demons under Satan
which even Scott Peck wrote about observing in his book Glimpses of the Devil
when he witnessed patterns and stages of behavior, sickness and recovery in
patients with demonic personalities and voices. Peck did not believe in any
"Devil or Satan" being real entities, until he saw these voices and entities
speak for themselves beyond any control or knowledge of the patients held as hosts by these external forces.
Not until he witnessed for himself that these were operating independently
did he understand what Christians mean by demons and Satan being outside influences
that invade and oppress or possess the free will and minds of people with no control
except to ask help to remove this obstruction so they can recover their free will.

I have never met people who could grasp any of this is real without seeing it for themselves.
it just sounds too fantastical or delusional, as even Peck believed it had to be
from mental delusions and chemical imbalances in the brains of patients.

So I do not fault sealybobo having skepticism and rejection, as that is natural.
Until you see scientific proof or eyewitness experience, there is no reason to believe this is true.

The most I have seen people do is change their minds and be OPEN to the idea
it could be proven true. But again, even Peck agreed this is still FAITH BASED.

He and his other team members " could have all experienced a mass hallucination "
at the same time, or could all by lying from the perspective of outside people who weren't there as witnesses.

So THAT level of "believing there is a Satanic realm of demonic entities"
is different.

Not everyone needs to believe in that to understand
"Satan" in general to mean selfish or fear based influence on the negative side of destruction and ill will
and
"God" in general to mean unconditional love, collective truth, univeral laws of life and nature,
or the power of Greater Good Will for humanity overcoming ill will and destructive forces of fear

I would even reframe God and Satan as
faith in Abundance Mentality
vs. fear based on Scarcity Mentality

Abundant believers that life is good tend to be generous and selfless in sharing and investing in others
with faith that the good attracts more good and pays forward

Scarcity fear mongers tend to be selfish from lack of faith there are enough resources
without trying to control or force other people such as by bullying or politics etc.

If people believe in God or Good will, truth and love as being more powerful
this tends to correlate with trusting in people to change by free will and reason, by supporting where we agree,
not by force by bullying by exclusion, coercion, insulting or attacking etc. which is Antichrist or abuse of authority or power.

Believing in reconciling man's individual will with God's "collective good will"
through Christ Jesus means faith in Restorative Justice to
establish justice and peace in all our relations and to restore society and humanity
as a collective process.

So either sealybobo has faith that such Good will or God exists
or defines God to be universal truth or something else that drives us
to correct falsehood and injustice and seek this higher level, whatever you call it.

sealybobo whatever level of TRUTH you are seeking to establish here,
how would you frame that goal or this process in terms of what other
people would call reconciling with God's or Universal Truth to bring peace and freedom from problems?
 
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