Seems a strike is coming to East Coast Ports

[Fort Fun Indiana]

As stated by an idiot.

That doesn't change the fact that what you said was embarrassingly stupid.

 

[Darkwind]

That doesn't change the fact that what you said was embarrassingly stupid.

In fact, it was embarrassingly - to you - accurate.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

In fact, it was embarrassingly - to you - accurate.

Hmm, no, that doesn't make sense either.

Good luck next time. I think you pretty.much faceplanted here and can move on.

Now have a little tantrum. Good luck.

 

[initforme]

A strike isn't a huge deal.

 

[jotathought]

small price to pay I guess for your beloved party to gain a few more votes.

Assuming they strike, why isn't Biden going to force these port workers to continue working, which is authorized in the Taft-Hartley Act?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Assuming they strike, why isn't Biden going to force these port workers to continue working, which is authorized in the Taft-Hartley Act?

Who knows why Biden does or does not do anything?

As for me, I am against such actions by the Govt. But I am a small Govt, more freedom kind of guy.

So you might not understand.

 

[jotathought]

A strike isn't a huge deal.

When it's 1/2 of the United States imports, it sure is, not to mention the unintended consequences to other businesses such as trucking. One day on strike equates to multiple days to get operations back up, and the union plans to strike for at least a month.

 

[initforme]

Assuming they strike, why isn't Biden going to force these port workers to continue working, which is authorized in the Taft-Hartley Act?

Why not have both sides sit down and negotiate a fair deal?

 

[jotathought]

Why not have both sides sit down and negotiate a fair deal?

A 40% pay raise over a period of time is fairly generous, as compared to the ~80% that is being demanded. The lack of automation is astounding as well -- guess they are too afraid that workers will be replaced.

No wonder union-made things are so expensive, like vehicles.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Assuming they strike, why isn't Biden going to force these port workers to continue working, which is authorized in the Taft-Hartley Act?

He might.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

A 40% pay raise over a period of time is fairly generous, as compared to the ~80% that is being demanded. The lack of automation is astounding as well -- guess they are too afraid that workers will be replaced.

No wonder union-made things are so expensive, like vehicles.

It's a very complicated premise.

Pay the workers enough to afford stuff.

And they will buy stuff.

Very complicated.

I think it took Henry Ford at least 8 minutes to come up with it.

 

[initforme]

He might.

That law needs to be scrapped. It's way outdated. We don't force labor do we?

 

[jotathought]

He might.

He already stated he wouldn't. He's just offering them thoughts and prayers.

A Looming East Coast Port Strike Could Shake the Economy​

Administration officials have said President Biden is not planning to force dockworkers back to work, which the 1947 Taft-Hartley Act authorizes him to do. Beth Rooney, director of the Port of New York and New Jersey, said last week that invoking the act would be “our best scenario next to there being a settlement.”

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

That law needs to be scrapped. It's way outdated. We don't force labor do we?

I believe what is enforced is the idea that they can't go on strike without losing their jobs.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He already stated he wouldn't.

I didn't see that. You sure?

And you seem.confused. That is what the workers would want him not to do.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

A strike isn't a huge deal.

It is when it could upset the entire economy.

 

[jotathought]

It's a very complicated premise.

Pay the workers enough to afford stuff.

And they will buy stuff.

Very complicated.

I think it took Henry Ford at least 8 minutes to come up with it.

East and Gulf Coast port workers with 6+ years of experience earn a minimum of $39/hour, not including overtime, a livable wage for sure.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

East and Gulf Coast port workers with 6+ years of experience earn a minimum of $39/hour, not including overtime, a livable wage for sure.

That wage is lower middle class, in any but the cheapest cities.

44 years of union busting and Reagonomics is coming to a head.

 

[jotathought]

I didn't see that. You sure?

And you seem.confused. That is what the workers would want him not to do.

I already shared the New York Times article on this with you .. Did you not read it?

I am not confused at all. While the workers do not want it, the Director of the ports of New York and New Jersey believes it's the best possible outcome, which of course it would be for her as it delays negotiations and keeps the ports operational. The other interesting twist, which I mentioned earlier, is it would fuck the Kamala campaign.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I am not confused at all.

You indeed are. If he said he wouldn't do it, that's the outcome they want.

So the thoughts and prayers comment made no sense.

NYT is pay walled. Quote?