So Why All the Lying About Russia?

[Lesh]

you do know he got immunity to rag on Manafort right? hmmmmm you ain't too bright there are you?

Link required liar

 

[jc456]

you do know he got immunity to rag on Manafort right? hmmmmm you ain't too bright there are you?

Link required liar

oh gawd, ok here:

Robert Mueller offers Tony Podesta immunity to testify against Paul Manafort: Report

BTW, that was one click and mountains of links.

 

[mr jones]

You just flat out LIE...doncha?

He absolutely lied about that meeting. He claimed it was about adoptions. It was about the tit for tat of Russian supplied "dirt on Hillary" (the acceptance of or even attempt to obtain is illegal) in return for the lifting of SANCTIONS. That's an ASTOUNDING act on it's face. Trading American policy for getting money to Putin. That's INSANE! How does that get ignored? They were offering to sell American POLICY

The particular sanction that they most wanted removed was the Magnitsky Act which so angered Putin because it affected HIS money (for which his retaliation was ending adoptions of Russian orphans)

Trump lied about that meeting. Don Jr. lied about that meeting. Manafort attended and Kushner attended.

He has always set it was setup to get dirt, but that it ended up being a bait and switch by the Russian chick

So it's not illegal to get dirt on a campaign...if it were the Hilary campaign would all be in jail based on the Steele dossier along
And Don Jr has always said he was looking for dirt when he set up the meeting.....he's never lied about that
And he has said the meeting ended up about adoption, which pissed him off...again never lied about that....


so where is the lie?

working with foreign governments to influence an election is against the law, dumbass. paying a foreigner for his efforts to find out bad things about an opponent is legal, dumbass. Steele is a British citizen, one of our strongest allies. But he does not represent the British government in any way. He was the former head of the British spy agency in Moscow and had contacts with russians who were aware of Putin's and other oligarch's actions in that country, but were not acting as agents of that country...in fact, his russian contacts who supplied info about ties to putin and trump and to other russian bankers and fatcats connected to putin would probably be killed by Putin if he found out who they were!! get it? Steele's dossier was anti-Putin, not pro-russian. donnie's meeting was with clearly identified Putin agents, working at the behest of Putin to give Trump a better chance of winning the election- HIS OWN EMAILS SHOW THIS....the lie was after when he first said it was about Russian adoptions...you need to watch an actual news show to have a clue, bozo.

john Podesta and hitlery shouldn't have done that then eh?

And dude, you truly crack me up with your flailing around.

what foreign government did they even talk to, stupid bitch? good god, you are stupid even for a trump stooge. podesta had his emails hacked by RUSSIAN AGENTS WHO THEN HAD IT PUBLISHED IT ON RUSSIAN AGENT ASSANGE'S WIKILEAKS SITE, STUPID. we know that for a fact. have you even read any real news reports? can you even read any real news reports, boy?

you do know he got immunity to rag on Manafort right? hmmmmm you ain't too bright there are you?

who got immunity to rag on manafort? what are you babbling about?

 

[jc456]

He has always set it was setup to get dirt, but that it ended up being a bait and switch by the Russian chick

So it's not illegal to get dirt on a campaign...if it were the Hilary campaign would all be in jail based on the Steele dossier along
And Don Jr has always said he was looking for dirt when he set up the meeting.....he's never lied about that
And he has said the meeting ended up about adoption, which pissed him off...again never lied about that....


so where is the lie?

working with foreign governments to influence an election is against the law, dumbass. paying a foreigner for his efforts to find out bad things about an opponent is legal, dumbass. Steele is a British citizen, one of our strongest allies. But he does not represent the British government in any way. He was the former head of the British spy agency in Moscow and had contacts with russians who were aware of Putin's and other oligarch's actions in that country, but were not acting as agents of that country...in fact, his russian contacts who supplied info about ties to putin and trump and to other russian bankers and fatcats connected to putin would probably be killed by Putin if he found out who they were!! get it? Steele's dossier was anti-Putin, not pro-russian. donnie's meeting was with clearly identified Putin agents, working at the behest of Putin to give Trump a better chance of winning the election- HIS OWN EMAILS SHOW THIS....the lie was after when he first said it was about Russian adoptions...you need to watch an actual news show to have a clue, bozo.

john Podesta and hitlery shouldn't have done that then eh?

And dude, you truly crack me up with your flailing around.

what foreign government did they even talk to, stupid bitch? good god, you are stupid even for a trump stooge. podesta had his emails hacked by RUSSIAN AGENTS WHO THEN HAD IT PUBLISHED IT ON RUSSIAN AGENT ASSANGE'S WIKILEAKS SITE, STUPID. we know that for a fact. have you even read any real news reports? can you even read any real news reports, boy?

you do know he got immunity to rag on Manafort right? hmmmmm you ain't too bright there are you?

who got immunity to rag on manafort? what are you babbling about?

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[Lesh]

you do know he got immunity to rag on Manafort right? hmmmmm you ain't too bright there are you?

Link required liar

oh gawd, ok here:

Robert Mueller offers Tony Podesta immunity to testify against Paul Manafort: Report

BTW, that was one click and mountains of links.

That's TONY Podesta...not John.

And

While they were not immediately identified, nearly a week later a judge granted immunity to the witnesses, identified as James Brennan, Donna Duggan, Conor O'Brien, Cindy Laporta, and Dennis Raico, to testify.

So who are those folks related to that bothers you so?

 

[jc456]

you do know he got immunity to rag on Manafort right? hmmmmm you ain't too bright there are you?

Link required liar

oh gawd, ok here:

Robert Mueller offers Tony Podesta immunity to testify against Paul Manafort: Report

BTW, that was one click and mountains of links.

That's TONY Podesta...not John.

And

While they were not immediately identified, nearly a week later a judge granted immunity to the witnesses, identified as James Brennan, Donna Duggan, Conor O'Brien, Cindy Laporta, and Dennis Raico, to testify.

So who are those folks related to that bothers you so?

John, Tony what's the difference? they worked for hitlery.

 

[Lesh]

John, Tony what's the difference? they worked for hitlery.

The difference is that they are


read this slowly


DIFFERENT people. If your brother commits murder...should you go to jail?

 

[Lesh]

Tony Podesta - Wikipedia

Nope. Hillary's name...not there

 

[mudwhistle]

Let's see the report so we know.

How bout that?

By law....you can't.
And the lying Dems know this.

If Mueller conducted a thorough investigation, by law he cannot reveal names of innocent victims during the investigation. By law.

Ever hear of redactions?
Of course it’s legal

No fucking shit!!! What do you think I just said?
The Democrats, and their supporters, are demanding the entire report be released to the public.....with no redactions.

 

[mudwhistle]

Let's see the report so we know.

How bout that?

By law....you can't.
And the lying Dems know this.

If Mueller conducted a thorough investigation, by law he cannot reveal names of innocent victims during the investigation. By law.

what law? Did that stop the Clinton email investigation from being released, all 800 pages of the FBI Investigation? Did this law stop the Starr report from being released, including grand jury testimony? Did that stop the Watergate investigation from being released? How about the Stzrok and Page texts and emails from being released, they were not charged with anything?

Most all situations where, we the people need to know or with great public interest, the courts rule, it ALL can be released, including grand jury testimony....

Look, all of the above, excluding the Starr Report, wasn't part of a Special Prosecutor investigation. You assume that every part of that report was released. It was not.
What you have heard has been information that was released in lawsuits filed by Judicial Watch. If it weren't for them, none of that evidence would have seen the light of day....and their whitewash exposed.
Now the left thinks they can do the same with the Mueller report......but here's the rub. Most of the damning evidence that could be released involves the people who perpetrated this fraud in the first place. Trump doesn't have any guilt in this matter. Only the people who paid for this crap (Hillary), and then leaked it to the press.
Bill Clinton lied to a Grand Jury, BTW. He was the focus of the Starr Investigation. He agreed to pay a fine and give up his license to practice law.

 

[justoffal]

Process crimes and people's past that had nothing to do with the investigation.

There is no such animal as a "process crime".

There are felonies and misdemeanors.

And no one has answered the original question.

Why all these lies...about Russia?

In fact there is such an animal as a process
Crime. The manufactured lies are the very same reason Trump's lawyers refused to allow direct questioning.

Jo

bullshit. you are just a sheep who believes anything trump or fox bends you over and wants you to believe because you are too ignorant or mentally challenged to demand the truth. perjury is an incredibly hard crime to prove...it can't be about irrelevant crap, like what color suit did you have on or exactly what day or time it was, like dumbass trump said. it has to be intentional. it has to relevant to the investigation. it has to be considered important enough of a lie to have an affect on the investigation. there is no such thing as a process crime, that is just what your masters want you and other trump stooges to believe, because that is what you want to believe.

If a Federal prosecutor wants you to perjure yourself you cannot do otherwise. It's called a perjury trap .... A very common legal term that exists for a reason. Soooo stop whining with disappointment and brace yourself for six more years of trying to be an adult.

Jo

 

[hadit]

Let's see the report so we know.

How bout that?

By law....you can't.
And the lying Dems know this.

If Mueller conducted a thorough investigation, by law he cannot reveal names of innocent victims during the investigation. By law.

what law? Did that stop the Clinton email investigation from being released, all 800 pages of the FBI Investigation? Did this law stop the Starr report from being released, including grand jury testimony? Did that stop the Watergate investigation from being released? How about the Stzrok and Page texts and emails from being released, they were not charged with anything?

Most all situations where, we the people need to know or with great public interest, the courts rule, it ALL can be released, including grand jury testimony....

Look, all of the above, excluding the Starr Report, wasn't part of a Special Prosecutor investigation. You assume that every part of that report was released. It was not.
What you have heard has been information that was released in lawsuits filed by Judicial Watch. If it weren't for them, none of that evidence would have seen the light of day....and their whitewash exposed.
Now the left thinks they can do the same with the Mueller report......but here's the rub. Most of the damning evidence that could be released involves the people who perpetrated this fraud in the first place. Trump doesn't have any guilt in this matter. Only the people who paid for this crap (Hillary), and then leaked it to the press.

The "dump Trump" movement just took a step backward.

 

[Lesh]

Let’s see the Report then talk shit

 

[Care4all]

Let's see the report so we know.

How bout that?

By law....you can't.
And the lying Dems know this.

If Mueller conducted a thorough investigation, by law he cannot reveal names of innocent victims during the investigation. By law.

what law? Did that stop the Clinton email investigation from being released, all 800 pages of the FBI Investigation? Did this law stop the Starr report from being released, including grand jury testimony? Did that stop the Watergate investigation from being released? How about the Stzrok and Page texts and emails from being released, they were not charged with anything?

Most all situations where, we the people need to know or with great public interest, the courts rule, it ALL can be released, including grand jury testimony....

Look, all of the above, excluding the Starr Report, wasn't part of a Special Prosecutor investigation. You assume that every part of that report was released. It was not.
What you have heard has been information that was released in lawsuits filed by Judicial Watch. If it weren't for them, none of that evidence would have seen the light of day....and their whitewash exposed.
Now the left thinks they can do the same with the Mueller report......but here's the rub. Most of the damning evidence that could be released involves the people who perpetrated this fraud in the first place. Trump doesn't have any guilt in this matter. Only the people who paid for this crap (Hillary), and then leaked it to the press.
Bill Clinton lied to a Grand Jury, BTW. He was the focus of the Starr Investigation. He agreed to pay a fine and give up his license to practice law.

let's start with finding out how the investigation began, before you blame the Dossier, that wasn't even around when they first began investigating... what intelligence were they given or discovered to trigger the investigation?

 

[JGalt]

Well naturally. The only Russian collusion that took place during the 2016 election was between Hillary Clinton and the Russians.

Well, Ms. Ayn Rand wanna-be.......

Ignorant Trump ass kissers.....like you, certainly.......should know that Putin HATED Hillary Clinton......If you want, I'll provide you and other morons within your ilk with DOZENS of stories as to why Vlad despised Hillary because she was tough on his fraudulent tactics on Russian "elections."

But, since you are a Trump ass kisser..........the very "best" way to defend your orange clown is to DIVERT to attacking Clinton because.......well, simply because you ARE a fucking moron.

Actually Putin disrespected Hillary Clinton. He figured out right off the bat that she was an ass-clown with that stupid, badly-translated "Russian Reset". Even so, he was willing to do business with her and Bill: Uranium One, all those speeches Bill gave to the Russians, and the dossier which she paid for, to name a few things.

 

[JGalt]

If $145 million in "charitable donations" is not proof of collusion then what is?

The above Trump ass kisser reverts to Clinton......How "original"....LMAO

Well naturally. The only Russian collusion that took place during the 2016 election was between Hillary Clinton and the Russians.

I thought everyone knew this by now.

Wait...Hillary colluded to get Putin to help her LOSE the election?

No. Hillary Clinton colluded with the Russians to get enough dirt on Trump, to derail his Presidential aspirations.

But she failed.

 

[Lesh]

No. Hillary Clinton colluded with the Russians to get enough dirt on Trump, to derail his Presidential aspirations.

Great flesh that nonsense out. How...when...what are you talking about?

 

[Care4all]

Well naturally. The only Russian collusion that took place during the 2016 election was between Hillary Clinton and the Russians.

Well, Ms. Ayn Rand wanna-be.......

Ignorant Trump ass kissers.....like you, certainly.......should know that Putin HATED Hillary Clinton......If you want, I'll provide you and other morons within your ilk with DOZENS of stories as to why Vlad despised Hillary because she was tough on his fraudulent tactics on Russian "elections."

But, since you are a Trump ass kisser..........the very "best" way to defend your orange clown is to DIVERT to attacking Clinton because.......well, simply because you ARE a fucking moron.

Actually Putin disrespected Hillary Clinton. Even so, he was willing to do business with her and Bill: Uranium One, all those speeches Bill gave to the Russians, and the dossier which she paid for, to name a few things.

1 speech in Russia, of which he got approval for doing by the State department's Ethics lawyers BEFOREHAND.

She paid Fusion GPS for opposition research, not the Russian gvt.

Not a dime, or a penny of Clinton foundation charity money goes in to the Clinton's pockets.

 

[JGalt]

No. Hillary Clinton colluded with the Russians to get enough dirt on Trump, to derail his Presidential aspirations.

Great flesh that nonsense out. How...when...what are you talking about?

OK then, stay clueless. I don't really care one way or another.

 

[Lesh]

Actually Putin disrespected Hillary Clinton. He figured out right off the bat that she was an ass-clown with that stupid, badly-translated "Russian Reset". Even so, he was willing to do business with her and Bill: Uranium One, all those speeches Bill gave to the Russians, and the dossier which she paid for, to name a few things.

Pure bullshit. She had almost nothing to do with that. Got no benefit from it. Never met with anyone about it. No Uranium ever went to Russia nor COULD it have under that deal.

In other words. Pure unadulterated bullshit