Supreme Court tie vote dooms taxpayer funded Catholic charter school in Oklahoma

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Ahhh..so we STILL can't mix church and state?
This is an unsatisfactory ruling from both sides POV.

Liberals hate that it only applies to Oklahoma and does not establish precedent.
Conservatives hate that it allowed the adverse lower court ruling to stand...and that, once again, Roberts stabbed them in the back.


The Supreme Court on Thursday effectively ended a publicly funded Catholic charter school in Oklahoma, dividing 4-4.

The outcome keeps in place an Oklahoma court decision that invalidated a vote by a state charter school board to approve the St. Isidore of Seville Catholic Virtual School, which would have been the nation’s first religious charter school. But it leaves the issue unresolved nationally.
The one-sentence notice from the court provides an unsatisfying end to one of the term’s most closely watched cases.

The Catholic Church in Oklahoma had wanted taxpayers to fund the online charter school “faithful to the teachings of Jesus Christ.” Opponents warned that allowing it would blur the separation between church and state, sap money from public schools and possibly upend the rules governing charter schools in almost every state.

The court, following its custom, did not provide a breakdown of the votes. But during arguments last month, four conservative justices seemed likely to side with the school, while the three liberals seemed just as firmly on the other side.


That left Chief Justice John Roberts appearing to hold the key vote, and suggests he went with the liberals to make the outcome 4-4.
 
Ahhh..so we STILL can't mix church and state?
This is an unsatisfactory ruling from both sides POV.

Liberals hate that it only applies to Oklahoma and does not establish precedent.
Conservatives hate that it allowed the adverse lower court ruling to stand...and that, once again, Roberts stabbed them in the back.


The Supreme Court on Thursday effectively ended a publicly funded Catholic charter school in Oklahoma, dividing 4-4.

The outcome keeps in place an Oklahoma court decision that invalidated a vote by a state charter school board to approve the St. Isidore of Seville Catholic Virtual School, which would have been the nation’s first religious charter school. But it leaves the issue unresolved nationally.
The one-sentence notice from the court provides an unsatisfying end to one of the term’s most closely watched cases.

The Catholic Church in Oklahoma had wanted taxpayers to fund the online charter school “faithful to the teachings of Jesus Christ.” Opponents warned that allowing it would blur the separation between church and state, sap money from public schools and possibly upend the rules governing charter schools in almost every state.

The court, following its custom, did not provide a breakdown of the votes. But during arguments last month, four conservative justices seemed likely to side with the school, while the three liberals seemed just as firmly on the other side.


That left Chief Justice John Roberts appearing to hold the key vote, and suggests he went with the liberals to make the outcome 4-4.
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Makes sense. Catholic schools should be supported by Catholics.

Any school that takes taxpayer funding has to adhere to rules made by the government. Real Catholics realize how wrong this is.

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I live in a small town, in a small Catholic parish, and know about a half dozen church members who have religious education classes, from preschool to high school, and I also know a bunch of people who teach in the public school here. We have a very healthy environment for Catholic kids to grow up in. First Holy Communion and Confirmation numbers were quite high this year.

As a matter of fact, some of our high school age girls are verbally against the crap that the city kids get crammed down their throats, like the gender BS, critical race theory and DEI. We have smart kids here. They grow up responsible not only for themselves but for the needs of their community. They do snow removal for the elderly folks and clean up after storms, gathering downed trees and branches and hauling them to the burn pile. They venerate local Veterans and parade them into their school for brunch on Veterans' Day, as well as volunteering in many different jobs at the nursing home.


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I live in a small town, in a small Catholic parish, and know about a half dozen church members who have religious education classes, from preschool to high school, and I also know a bunch of people who teach in the public school here. We have a very healthy environment for Catholic kids to grow up in. First Holy Communion and Confirmation numbers were quite high this year.

As a matter of fact, some of our high school age girls are verbally against the crap that the city kids get crammed down their throats, like the gender BS, critical race theory and DEI. We have smart kids here. They grow up responsible not only for themselves but for the needs of their community. They do snow removal for the elderly folks and clean up after storms, gathering downed trees and branches and hauling them to the burn pile. They venerate local Veterans and parade them into their school for brunch on Veterans' Day, as well as volunteering in many different jobs at the nursing home.


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I don’t disagree, my kids went to Catholic school until fifth grade and I’m a Catholic.
 
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court on Thursday effectively ended a publicly funded Catholic charter school in Oklahoma, dividing 4-4.



The outcome keeps in place an Oklahoma court decision that invalidated a vote by a state charter school board to approve the St. Isidore of Seville Catholic Virtual School, which would have been the nation’s first religious charter school. But it leaves the issue unresolved nationally.

The one-sentence notice from the court provides an unsatisfying end to one of the term’s most closely watched cases.

The Catholic Church in Oklahoma had wanted taxpayers to fund the online charter school “faithful to the teachings of Jesus Christ.” Opponents warned that allowing it would blur the separation between church and state, sap money from public schools and possibly upend the rules governing charter schools in almost every state.

The Separation of Church and State remains upheld. There is no State Sanctioned, State Supported, State Mandated religion in this country.

Religious Clause.

Article VI.

Clause III.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

First Amendment.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances
 
I don’t disagree, my kids went to Catholic school until fifth grade and I’m a Catholic.
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Catholic kids simply get great education, with the exception of those who live in liberal parishes.


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Even the exact title of the same thread posted an hour ago.

Got-DAMMIT are you shitlibs lazy! :laugh2:
 
Relax so two people had the same thoughts and it boiled down to whom acted first.

choice is always good
 
It will be back next year.

Amy Coney Barrett recused because she's friends with someone on the acts side. "They" will try again next year with different people so she doesn't recuse herself and then it will likely get the SCOTUS approval.

WW
 
It will be back next year.

Amy Coney Barrett recused because she's friends with someone on the acts side. "They" will try again next year with different people so she doesn't recuse herself and then it will likely get the SCOTUS approval.

WW
 
Ahhh..so we STILL can't mix church and state?
This is an unsatisfactory ruling from both sides POV.

Liberals hate that it only applies to Oklahoma and does not establish precedent.
Conservatives hate that it allowed the adverse lower court ruling to stand...and that, once again, Roberts stabbed them in the back.


The Supreme Court on Thursday effectively ended a publicly funded Catholic charter school in Oklahoma, dividing 4-4.

The outcome keeps in place an Oklahoma court decision that invalidated a vote by a state charter school board to approve the St. Isidore of Seville Catholic Virtual School, which would have been the nation’s first religious charter school. But it leaves the issue unresolved nationally.
The one-sentence notice from the court provides an unsatisfying end to one of the term’s most closely watched cases.

The Catholic Church in Oklahoma had wanted taxpayers to fund the online charter school “faithful to the teachings of Jesus Christ.” Opponents warned that allowing it would blur the separation between church and state, sap money from public schools and possibly upend the rules governing charter schools in almost every state.

The court, following its custom, did not provide a breakdown of the votes. But during arguments last month, four conservative justices seemed likely to side with the school, while the three liberals seemed just as firmly on the other side.


That left Chief Justice John Roberts appearing to hold the key vote, and suggests he went with the liberals to make the outcome 4-4.
Don’t know, sounds better to keep gubment out of education.

He called the 4-4 vote “a resounding victory for religious liberty” that also will ensure that “Oklahoma taxpayers will not be forced to fund radical Islamic schools

So it’s good to keep the government from funding Islamic crap.
 
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