The 20 year anniversary of the United States invasion of Iraq. What are your thoughts all these years later?

My thoughts are the same as they were at the time. That bush was planning and invading iraq from the start and just looking for an excuse. His family always had ties with saudi arabia, And both wars with iraq were started by members of the bush family as a favor to the saudi royals.

Bush junior did his best to blame the nine eleven attacks on iraq, Even though iraq had no known ties to alkida at the time and there was no known alkaida presence in iraq until after the invasion, as well as the fact there was evidence that it was members of the saudi royal family who actually funded the attack. In the end he chose to use outdated and completely false information that has originally been given to the Clinton administration and found to not be trustworthy in order to justify the war, and did his best to discredit anyone in the government who questioned the validity of his claims about Iraq having an active weapons prigram..

If you recall there was a scandal about members of the bush administration intentionally ousting the identity of undercover c I a agents. The husband of one of these agents, Was the leader of a survey that had been sent to iraq to verify the information about w m d's, And found that many of the sites claimed to be weapons sites were actually cold war era sites that have not been used in several years, And that no evidence of an active weapons program had been found. His wife's identity had been publicly released less than three months after he made this report, And there has always Ben a Believe among bush critics that his wife's ousting as an undercover c I a agent was retaliation for her husband refusing to lie in his report.

Wow. You're one ignorant liar. The Saudis didn't fund 9/11 and they objected to the attack on Iraq.. They knew it would be a major blunder. But, Bush was listening to Cheney. He wasn't listening to the Saudis, or oilmen or diplomats.

You're Jewish aren't you?
 
Here was an excellent morning discussion on the 20 year anniversary of the United States led invasion of Iraq. All sorts of informative calls from fellow American citizens on the very issue


Viewers commented on a question concerning the 20th anniversary of former President George W. Bush declaring the start of Operation Iraqi Freedom and the start of the seven-year U.S. war in Iraq: “What is the legacy of that war?”


I was just a young kid when this invasion had occurred in March 2003…. operation “shock and awe”




and it was a very interesting thing remembering it I was thinking why is this happening what is the deal with this man Saddam Hussein but more than that what about the proud people of Iraq what about them what about these Arabs what about these proud Arab Christians and Arab Muslims. Is he that’s one thing before 2003 12% of Iraq was Christian now something like 4% of the country is Christian. before 2003 the second in command of Iraq the number to most powerful man was a Catholic Tarik Aziz…. where is the Christian leader ship in Iraq now.? Critics have said that Iraq is very much influenced or even controlled by the Islamic Republic of Iran something that is very ugly it certainly is not good for proud Arab women.

This is one of the last outlet’s of journalistic integrity in America which is Washington journal on C-SPAN. Where American citizens can call into the program and provide their opinion. You just don’t see that on CNN, Fox News or MSNBC.

My thoughts on the 20 year anniversary of the invasion of Iraq and the legacy of the Iraq war is first of all I stand by the United States military and by President George W. Bush. We as Americans we have freedom of speech that folks don’t have that in other countries of the world. But we have that in America at least for now. And I believe in supporting the office of the presidency just like it was during the Vietnam war when you had even Vietnam veterans who disagreed with the war but who fought because they were drafted and because they felt it was their duty.

I go back to the Iraq Iran war. I think that the United States should have supported Iraq more to crush Iran. Iran is a country that forces women to cover their hair has all sorts of sexist laws. They are problematic but they weren’t like that during the days of the shah. obviously we had the Iran contra affair I get this that was only for about four months during the Iran Iraq war and Ronald Reagan issued an apology to the Iraqi people for that episode.

One thing that stands out about this war is that Iraq was all alone…. they had no support from China no support from Russia that would’ve been a game changer if that support had occurred. Iraq did get some support from Arab volunteers across the Arab world but that hails in comparison to $100 billion in international military support for example. The hypocrisy of the international media between now and then is crystal clear.

To the other side of the argument one might say that the world is better off without the Ba’ath party of Iraq. But that is certainly very much debatable…. on the flipside you have ISIL and the terrorism brutality this was probably the worst state in the history of the world ….perhaps second to the third Reich. For a couple of years the Islamic state of Iraq and the Levant were throwing people into fires, they were feeding men to sharks in pools literally, ISIL would put men in a cage three or four of them and then drown them to death in a suburban swimming pool, they would Put men into a car and then blow the car up. They would chainsaw peoples heads off …. they executed Christians in mass…. basically anything you could think of from a violent video game ISIL did…. ISIL even had their own modified version of the video game “ Grandtheft auto“…which word attempt to recruit young gamers over to the cause of ISIL.

Of course after 2003 and also during the initial invasion you had dead Americans you had dead Iraqis. There was anywhere from 300,000 to 1,000,000 dead Iraqis due to the war in Iraq. Not to mention the tens of thousands of American soldiers who were injured…. some of whom suffered horrific spinal cord injuries , neck injuries they had their legs blown off their arms blown off many of these men these brave American soldiers are in wheelchairs for the rest of their lives. They can’t have sex they can’t even use the bathroom on their own piano that is something that words cannot really describe.

But it’s not just ISIL. Here’s a question we as Americans can ask today. What is the purpose of The state of Iraq …. A country which of the United States poured trillions of dollars into and countless American lives over 3200 American lives and again tens of thousands of injured soldiers. So where does Iraq stand today is it actually an ally of the United States? , or is it more so an ally of the Islamic Republic of Iran? which chants of death to America.

Finally what will the future of Iraq be ? will it actually remain a technical ally of the United States or will it become closer toward Iran? I think this is perhaps the most important question. Iraq has quite a bit of natural resources of course much oil.

The invasion was a mistake
 
Tell that the to the dead children in Libya that The Worthless Negro/Potatohead administration killed for nothing having to do with the security of the US.

The Worthless Negro/Potatohead administration sent my son and the troopers from the 6th Cav to Iraq and they killed people over there.

The Worthless Negro/Potatohead administration escalated the war in Afghanistan you dumb fuck.

Stop being such a dumbass Internet idiot. It makes you look like a clown when you post your filthy ass partisan hate bullshit that you never get right.

The Eastern tribes hated Gaddafi for 40 years, pinhead. There was no way to save Gaddafi except a massive occupation force. You don't know anything about Libya or Gaddafi.

His military and bodyguards were foreign nationals because he feared the Libyans since 1970.

Remember when Libyan refugees were pouring into Italy? The ones that didn't drown getting there.
 
You stupid shit. Neither did Trump.

However:

The Worthless Negro/Potatohead Administration, which Potatohead was second in charge, was at war every day of the administration.

They sure as started the war in Libya that had nothing to do with American security. Bombing civilians in order to keep the cost of oil lower for their Eurotrash friends. Was Potatohead getting foreign payoffs back then like we know he got later?

The Worthless Negro/Potatohead Administration fought the war in Iraq for three years and (just like in Afghanistan) fucked up the withdrawal of American troops that allowed ISIS to take over 90% of the country.

The the Worthless Negro/Potatohead Administration escalated the war in Afghanistan.

Then we had that disaster in Benghazi where The Worthless Negro/Potatohead Administration incompetence allowed the embassy to be overrun and then the shitheads lied about it.

Potatohead is a piece of incompetent shit and anybody that voted for him is an idiot.

Damn, you're really ignorant. There was never any US consulate in Benghazi.

ISIS didn't take over Afghanistan... the Taliban did.

Have you ever been to Libya? 7 oil companies had concessions. They All left. You're angry but stupid.
 
There is no question that iraq was a bad place

But its no better now after so much money spent and so many GIs lost

Read Clean Break Strategy and then read the PNAC letter to Bill Clinton... most of the signatories were dual citizens.. Bush hired them for his cabinet.
 
Read Clean Break Strategy and then read the PNAC letter to Bill Clinton... most of the signatories were dual citizens.. Bush hired them for his cabinet.
If those documents are your argument why dont you summarize them for me?
 
What I remember most from that war

Is this.....the lies......these people have a lot of blood on their hands!

The weapons of mass destruction that never existed.

What scum. Karma please get them now!




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The Eastern tribes hated Gaddafi for 40 years, pinhead. There was no way to save Gaddafi except a massive occupation force. You don't know anything about Libya or Gaddafi.

His military and bodyguards were foreign nationals because he feared the Libyans since 1970.

Remember when Libyan refugees were pouring into Italy? The ones that didn't drown getting there.
Surada

It is an undeniable fact that a lot of people from Libya liked Gaddafi and it is the same thing with Iraq and Saddam Hussein. Gaddafi was probably a bit different compared to Saddam Hussein. In the sense that he was probably more paranoid. You do realize that he was friendly with the British and his 2009 he met with British government officials, including the Prime Minister. And then they turned on him isn’t that interesting.

Are you gonna go to back up a second if you believe that Gaddafi or Saddam were monsters then what does that make every western leader who shook hands with them …. And then turned around and threw them into the trash bin when they felt they were useless.

Are you a neo con

I don’t know what you think about Saddam Hussein in Iraq. If you simply regurgitate with a mass media, try to tell us in 2003. By the way, of course America Allied with Iraq against Iran in the 1980s. I’ve spoken with probably 10 Iraqis nine of them told me that the country was much better off under Saddam Hussein, the Iraqi people were very friendly. I had an Arab from Palestine. Tell me that a lot of Arab people would go to work in Iraq in the 70s and 80s because it was one of the best places in the Middle East to make money.

Make no mistake Saddam was an authoritarian person. But it’s actually much more Iraq than one single person. The Iraqi healthcare system and education system in the 70s and 80s was one of the best in the Middle East.

“ oh but he gassed the Kurds”

No Iran gave weapons to some of the Kurdish northern Iraqi to use against Iraqi people. What in God’s name do you think that American people would do if Canada or Mexico gave weapons to Americans sympathetic to Canada or Mexico?

This is blatant insanity and it is the literal definition of American exceptionalism. We had a poor foreign policy toward Iraq in 2003. Btw a lot of Kurdish Iraqi and Shia Iraqi supported the Ba’ath. I don’t agree with Saddam Hussein or the Ba’ath party. I simply believe in common sense.



I wish the best for the Iraqi people in 2024. Maybe things can change for the better. They have certainly improved since they kicked isil out of their country. But before that, they went through hell on earth. They are still heavily influenced by Iran, but a lot of Iraqis want that to stop.
 
The episode is the major disaster for America, greater than Vietnam. Many of those responsible still remain in Washington. It was the doing of both halves of the duopoly.
 

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