The Confederacy was an Evil Empire

[lg325]

At the time all were legal and common in most parts of the world.
Should legal behavior of the past be judged by today's morals?

 

[Zebra]

At the time all were legal and common in most parts of the world.

Not in Europe then

 

[martybegan]

... because it took a civil war that killed more than 600000 soldiers and at least 100000 civilians.

It required war for the US to end this evil.

Misguided, not evil.

The holocaust was evil, suicide bombing is evil, child drugging and mutilating over trans nonsense is evil.

When we call everything evil it lessens the impact of what we are saying and moderates the entire concept of evil.

 

[rightwinger]

Probably as many as 2,000 blacks fought for the South.

So what?

It was evil. the 24% of southern-descent Americans today must renounce the CSA.

Fought is a misnomer
Confederates were afraid of armed negroes

They provided manual labor to the confederate forces

 

[rightwinger]

Misguided, not evil.

The holocaust was evil, suicide bombing is evil, child drugging and mutilating over trans nonsense is evil.

When we call everything evil it lessens the impact of what we are saying and moderates the entire concept of evil.

Having 40 percent of your population in bondage is not misguided
It is evil

 

[martybegan]

Fought is a misnomer
Confederates were afraid of armed negroes

They provided manual labor to the confederate forces

They also weren't fans of armed Unionists in their own States, particularly the ones near the border.

West Virginia was the easier case, as it cleaved off of Virginia proper. Places like Kentucky and Tennessee had no such luck.

 

[martybegan]

Having 40 percent of your population in bondage is not misguided
It is evil

It would be now, but it wasn't then.

Again, diluting evil by calling everything you don't like evil destroys the value of the concept as a warning.

 

[lg325]

An interesting article on the subject.

Abolition of Slavery by Country - Vivid Maps

The abolition of slavery happened at different times in different nations. It often occurred consecutively over one stage–for instance, as the abolition of the trade of enslaved people in a specific country and then as the abolition of slavery throughout empires.

vividmaps.com

 

[rightwinger]

It would be now, but it wasn't then.

Again, diluting evil by calling everything you don't like evil destroys the value of the concept as a warning.

Yes it was evil and they knew it was wrong
Just too much money being made off of free labor

 

[Robert W]

For over a hundred and fifty years, the legacy of the Confederacy has been sold as a noble Lost Cause of states defending their states rights.

The reality is that the Confederacy was an Evil Empire. One of the worst nations in the history of mankind.

The Confederacy was built on ensuring that the institution of slavery would exist forever,
The Confederacy kept 40 percent of its population in bondage.
The economy of the Confederacy was built around enforced free labor. Labor enforced by whip and chain.
The Confederacy used women for breeding and then sold the children.
The Confederacy considered human slaves as no more than livestock

By any valuation, this was pure EVIL and should never be defended or honored in todays society.

While nobody here intends to honor slavery, we need not attack ancestors whose goal was to earn a living off their land and be free of a Federal Government that had the goal of ruining their economy and ordering them around. Quite like President Biden has done and his sidekick Harris. Nothing said now will change facts like hundreds of years ago once the blacks both were slaves and owned them themselves.

 

[martybegan]

Yes it was evil and they knew it was wrong
Just too much money being made off of free labor

Misguided, not evil.

Stop mitigating the concept of evil.

 

[rightwinger]

Misguided, not evil.

Stop mitigating the concept of evil.

Sorry

But by any interpretation
Owning other human beings is evil

 

[rightwinger]

While nobody here intends to honor slavery, we need not attack ancestors whose goal was to earn a living off their land and be free of a Federal Government that had the goal of ruining their economy and ordering them around. Quite like President Biden has done and his sidekick Harris. Nothing said now will change facts like hundreds of years ago once the blacks both were slaves and owned them themselves.

What a stupid post
Not playing

 

[martybegan]

Sorry

But by any interpretation
Owning other human beings is evil

It was exploitation and wrong, but not evil.

If you go by the length of human history slavery was normal and accepted far longer than it was not normal and accepted.

Trying to bring it back would be evil, because now we supposedly know better.

 

[Zincwarrior]

At the time all were legal and common in most parts of the world.
Should legal behavior of the past be judged by today's morals?

It was illegal in Western Europe.
It was illegal in every other country in North and South America by 1859.
I believe the British were already blockading slave exporting nations in Africa.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Misguided, not evil.

Stop mitigating the concept of evil.

Yea it was pretty horrifically evil. Just because we topped it in the 20th Century doesn't make it Not Evil.

If you go by the length of human history slavery was normal and accepted far longer than it was not normal and accepted.

Murder has been going on since the beginning. Its still evil.

Having said that, I think we're not especially disagreeing. You reserve the term for a very few things which is cool.

 

[rightwinger]

It was exploitation and wrong, but not evil.

If you go by the length of human history slavery was normal and accepted far longer than it was not normal and accepted.

Trying to bring it back would be evil, because now we supposedly know better.

No…..it was pure evil
Our founders knew slavery was wrong and still allowed it

Paying a low wage is exploitation

Owning another person, paying no wages, breeding them

Evil

 

[Zebra]

It was illegal in Western Europe.
It was illegal in every other country in North and South America by 1859.
I believe the British were already blockading slave exporting nations in Africa.

So it is

 

[Robert W]

Yes it was evil and they knew it was wrong
Just too much money being made off of free labor

Have you ever owned animals and been told they cost you no money?
What about merchants in the North states bringing them in for lots of money?

 

[Robert W]

None of your post has anything to do with the Confederacy or why we celebrate it today

I have never heard of slavery being celebrated in the USA. I think you mean those illegals who drag then into the country and democrat's celebrate illegals here.