The Confederacy was an Evil Empire

[martybegan]

Yea it was pretty horrifically evil. Just because we topped it in the 20th Century doesn't make it Not Evil.


Murder has been going on since the beginning. Its still evil.

Having said that, I think we're not especially disagreeing. You reserve the term for a very few things which is cool.

Murder is killing, slavery is just another form of exploitation. It sucks, but it's not evil.

If everything is evil, nothing is evil.

 

[martybegan]

No…..it was pure evil
Our founders knew slavery was wrong and still allowed it

Paying a low wage is exploitation

Owning another person, paying no wages, breeding them

Evil

It was a fact of life at the time.

feeding them, providing medical care. Slaves were an investment, only the moron owners were gratuitously cruel.

 

[Robert W]

Sorry

But by any interpretation
Owning other human beings is evil

My god, the Government of the usa owned us when we got drafted.

 

[BackAgain]

The Confederacy was not an “empire” in any way.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Misguided, not evil.

The holocaust was evil, suicide bombing is evil, child drugging and mutilating over trans nonsense is evil.

When we call everything evil it lessens the impact of what we are saying and moderates the entire concept of evil.

Slavery is evil. You don't get your own definitions.

 

[martybegan]

The Confederacy was not an “empire” in any way.

it was actually the exact opposite, a loose confederation of sovereign States.

 

[martybegan]

Slavery is evil. You don't get your own definitions.

It may be evil now, but it wasn't then.

It was exploitation, but something that has been an accepted and even regulated part of human history far longer than it has not been.

 

[BackAgain]

it was actually the exact opposite, a loose confederation of sovereign States.

Leftwhiner employs terms without logic or reason and without knowing the simplest of definitions.

 

[Robert W]

Slavery is evil. You don't get your own definitions.

Yes we do. For example, we must blame Democrats. Care to talk about them?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Fought is a misnomer
Confederates were afraid of armed negroes

They provided manual labor to the confederate forces

Some of them actually fired weapons. And the CSA government was talking about raising armed units of slaves who would get their freedom, at the end of the war.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Yes we do. For example, we must blame Democrats. Care to talk about them?

No, you don't. Oh, the southern democrats supported the evil. Yet hundreds of thousands of northern dems fought against the south.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Yes we do. For example, we must blame Democrats. Care to talk about them?

Your kind of muddled thinking is similar to the polygamy deniers who believe in a pure monogamous Joseph Smith.

 

[Robert W]

No, you don't. Oh, the southern democrats supported the evil. Yet hundreds of thousands of northern dems fought against the south.

They were forced to fight for Lincoln.

 

[Robert W]

Your kind of muddled thinking is similar to the polygamy deniers who believe in a pure monogamous Joseph Smith.

Your thinking is muddled. First you whine over the past yet want to excuse those who owned slaves claiming some Democrats fought for Lincoln. His war was not smart and sure was not legal.

 

[Robert W]

Your kind of muddled thinking is similar to the polygamy deniers who believe in a pure monogamous Joseph Smith.

How does Joseph Smith enter this discussion. First he was not engaged in polygamy. And when he was murdered his wife was the only woman he had married.

 

[Robert W]

What a stupid post
Not playing

You feel defeated is why.

 

[martybegan]

No, you don't. Oh, the southern democrats supported the evil. Yet hundreds of thousands of northern dems fought against the south.

And plenty of other northern Dems would be OK with the Confederacy going it's own way.

The Copperhead movement wasn't made up of Free Soilers and Republicans.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Murder is killing, slavery is just another form of exploitation. It sucks, but it's not evil.

If everything is evil, nothing is evil.

not everything is evil.

 

[martybegan]

not everything is evil.

Is Trump evil?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Is Trump evil?

No, unless he owned slaves, which is unlikely.