The Confederacy was an Evil Empire

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

And plenty of other northern Dems would be OK with the Confederacy going it's own way.

The Copperhead movement wasn't made up of Free Soilers and Republicans.

So I am right. That does not mean that slavery is not evil.

 

[martybegan]

That literally makes no sentence in comparison to my statement.

Yes, it was. Just like Nazis were evil. Bolsheviks were evil. Stalin was evil. John Wayne Gacy was evil.

The Holocaust was evil, the deliberate killing of prisoners of war and civilians as reprisals was evil. The rest was just war.

The Holodomor was evil, The purges were evil, the rest was just authoritarianism.

Murder in general is evil.

 

[martybegan]

So I am right. That does not mean that slavery is not evil.

No, you are wrong painting northern dems as all being for the war and the abolition of slavery.

It's evil now, it wasn't evil then.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Is Trump evil?

Intrinsically, perhaps. In act, yes.

 

[martybegan]

Intrinsically, perhaps. In act, yes.

No, he isn't.

Because you don't like him isn't a reason for him to be evil.

If you consider him evil, then your definition of evil is utterly worthless.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

No, you are wrong painting northern dems as all being for the war and the abolition of slavery.

It's evil now, it wasn't evil then.

No, those are your words. Not all the north supported Lincoln. One fourth of Texas voted against secession.

Words have defined meanings, and you don't get to change them.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Your thinking is muddled. First you whine over the past yet want to excuse those who owned slaves claiming some Democrats fought for Lincoln. His war was not smart and sure was not legal.

Hundreds of thousands of northern Democrats fought for Lincon.

Who am I excusing who owned slaves?

 

[martybegan]

No, those are your words. Not all the north supported Lincoln. One fourth of Texas voted against secession.

Words have defined meanings, and you don't get to change them.

That's reality. Like most Dems you think you can change reality just by wanting it to be different.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I don't see it that way at all.
Nobody here has celebrated the confederacy that I have spotted. We do however want the truth told about this nations history. Such as Democrats celebrated owning slaves.

You see it wrongly. Once again your belief is not fact other than you believe wrongly.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I got no notice of that. Republicans were not slave owners, just the Democrats were.

Republicans today defend the Confederacy.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Hundreds of thousands of northern Democrats fought for Lincon.

Who am I excusing who owned slaves?

Gen George Thomas killed many secesh traitor and he was from Virginia.

 

[martybegan]

Republicans today defend the Confederacy.

Bullshit. what people are defending is what was allowed by the VICTORS at the time to aid the reunification process. They allowed the south to mourn their loss as they saw fit.

 

[martybegan]

Gen George Thomas killed many secesh traitor and he was from Virginia.

I doubt he killed anyone directly as he was a General.

He stayed with the Union. Having a Northern born wife probably led to that choice.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I doubt he killed anyone directly as he was a General.

This is fair. You win this round, but I'll be back!

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Bullshit. what people are defending is what was allowed by the VICTORS at the time to aid the reunification process. They allowed the south to mourn their loss as they saw fit.

Republicans today defend the Confederacy.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Republicans today defend the Confederacy.

I would not say that. I would say some Republicans in the old Jim Crow south defend it.

 

[Robert W]

That literally makes no sentence in comparison to my statement.

Yes, it was. Just like Nazis were evil. Bolsheviks were evil. Stalin was evil. John Wayne Gacy was evil.

And Democrats were evil. In fact due to their authoritarian nature, to me they still are evil.

 

[Robert W]

Republicans today defend the Confederacy.

Give examples.

 

[martybegan]

Republicans today defend the Confederacy.

No, they don't. They defend history, and the agreement made between the winners and losers that helped put the country back together.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Joseph Smith was a polygamist, Robert W, the fount and founder of it.

If you follow Michelle Brady Stone, you are in heresy. Continue and you will become an LDS apostate.