The Confederacy was an Evil Empire

[Zincwarrior]

Joseph Smith was a polygamist, Robert W, the fount and founder of it.

If you follow Michelle Brady Stone, you are in heresy. Continue and you will become an LDS apostate.

Er...wrong thread?

 

[martybegan]

Joseph Smith was a polygamist, Robert W, the fount and founder of it.

If you follow Michelle Brady Stone, you are in heresy. Continue and you will become an LDS apostate.

 

[Robert W]

Joseph Smith was a polygamist, Robert W, the fount and founder of it.

If you follow Michelle Brady Stone, you are in heresy. Continue and you will become an LDS apostate.

No he was not. But for fun and laughs, say he was married to more than a woman. First that was totally legal at the time. That is my basis for saying he was not, it was legal.

Actually the church admits he was married to a number of women.

Latter-day Saints believe that monogamy—the marriage of one man and one woman—is the Lord’s standing law of marriage.1 In biblical times, the Lord commanded some of His people to practice plural marriage—the marriage of one man and more than one woman.2 Some early members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints also received and obeyed this commandment given through God’s prophets.

After receiving a revelation commanding him to practice plural marriage, Joseph Smith married multiple wives and introduced the practice to close associates. This principle was among the most challenging aspects of the Restoration—for Joseph personally and for other Church members. Plural marriage tested faith and provoked controversy and opposition. Few Latter-day Saints initially welcomed the restoration of a biblical practice entirely foreign to their sensibilities. But many later testified of powerful spiritual experiences that helped them overcome their hesitation and gave them courage to accept this practice.

Although the Lord commanded the adoption—and later the cessation—of plural marriage in the latter days, He did not give exact instructions on how to obey the commandment. Significant social and cultural changes often include misunderstandings and difficulties. Church leaders and members experienced these challenges as they heeded the command to practice plural marriage and again later as they worked to discontinue it after Church President Wilford Woodruff issued an inspired statement known as the Manifesto in 1890, which led to the end of plural marriage in the Church. Through it all, Church leaders and members sought to follow God’s will.

Many details about the early practice of plural marriage are unknown. Plural marriage was introduced among the early Saints incrementally, and participants were asked to keep their actions confidential. They did not discuss their experiences publicly or in writing until after the Latter-day Saints had moved to Utah and Church leaders had publicly acknowledged the practice. The historical record of early plural marriage is therefore thin: few records of the time provide details, and later reminiscences are not always reliable. Some ambiguity will always accompany our knowledge about this issue. Like the participants, we “see through a glass, darkly” and are asked to walk by faith.3

 

[Zincwarrior]

No he was not. But for fun and laughs, say he was married to more than a woman. First that was totally legal at the time. That is my basis for saying he was not, it was legal.

I think they disagreed with that in Missouri.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

No, they don't. They defend history, and the agreement made between the winners and losers that helped put the country back together.

No, they don't. They defend the Confederacy. Unforgiveable.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

No he was not. But for fun and laughs, say he was married to more than a woman. First that was totally legal at the time. That is my basis for saying he was not, it was legal.

Actually the church admits he was married to a number of women.

Latter-day Saints believe that monogamy—the marriage of one man and one woman—is the Lord’s standing law of marriage.1 In biblical times, the Lord commanded some of His people to practice plural marriage—the marriage of one man and more than one woman.2 Some early members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints also received and obeyed this commandment given through God’s prophets.

After receiving a revelation commanding him to practice plural marriage, Joseph Smith married multiple wives and introduced the practice to close associates. This principle was among the most challenging aspects of the Restoration—for Joseph personally and for other Church members. Plural marriage tested faith and provoked controversy and opposition. Few Latter-day Saints initially welcomed the restoration of a biblical practice entirely foreign to their sensibilities. But many later testified of powerful spiritual experiences that helped them overcome their hesitation and gave them courage to accept this practice.

Although the Lord commanded the adoption—and later the cessation—of plural marriage in the latter days, He did not give exact instructions on how to obey the commandment. Significant social and cultural changes often include misunderstandings and difficulties. Church leaders and members experienced these challenges as they heeded the command to practice plural marriage and again later as they worked to discontinue it after Church President Wilford Woodruff issued an inspired statement known as the Manifesto in 1890, which led to the end of plural marriage in the Church. Through it all, Church leaders and members sought to follow God’s will.

Many details about the early practice of plural marriage are unknown. Plural marriage was introduced among the early Saints incrementally, and participants were asked to keep their actions confidential. They did not discuss their experiences publicly or in writing until after the Latter-day Saints had moved to Utah and Church leaders had publicly acknowledged the practice. The historical record of early plural marriage is therefore thin: few records of the time provide details, and later reminiscences are not always reliable. Some ambiguity will always accompany our knowledge about this issue. Like the participants, we “see through a glass, darkly” and are asked to walk by faith.3

You just admitted he was a polygamist. You, and Michelle Stone, are mixed up on celestial sealing and marriages, what they are, and how they are used.

So you will eventually apostatize with Michelle and others to form a Modern Latter Day Saints Church that teaches Joseph was monogamist. No need for temples or garments, etc.

 

[Robert W]

You just admitted he was a polygamist. You, and Michelle Stone, are mixed up on celestial sealing and marriages, what they are, and how they are used.

So you will eventually apostatize with Michelle and others to form a Modern Latter Day Saints Church that teaches Joseph was monogamist. No need for temples or garments, etc.

Thanks for the nonsense.

 

[martybegan]

No, they don't. They defend the Confederacy. Unforgiveable.

That's your made up opinion, and a bullshit one at that.

Every Republican who doesn't want statues of confederates taken down is a supporter of the Confederacy now?

 

[martybegan]

I am so glad the whiggos like Robert and Marty post here.

They demonstrate the weird is alive and doing well out there.

You are a fucking retard.

 

[rightwinger]

The most recent example of Democrats going against Blacks was when (D) Franklin Roosevelt banned them from combat roles in WW2 and almost at wars end created the Tuskegee airmen. But other than those blacks, the rest were delegated workers on supply issues.

Yup
America in the 1940s

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

That's your made up opinion, and a bullshit one at that.

Every Republican who doesn't want statues of confederates taken down is a supporter of the Confederacy now?

Do you really think so?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Every Republican who doesn't want statues of confederates taken down is a supporter of the Confederacy now?

Unless the statue is a memorial at a battlefield or a grave, if its on public land, then it was put in place during Jim Crow, so I would have to lean to yes.

AT the dedication of the statue in front of Goergetown in 1916:

Hosted by the Samuel Sanders Chapter of the United Daughters of the Confederacy, the installation event featured two prominent guest speakers: Williamson County Judge Richard Critz and Katie Daffan, the Texas state president of the United Daughters of the Confederacy. The purpose of the statue was to honor the men who stepped forward for the cause of Southern independence, the document said.

“The purpose of this occasion, more than [50] years after the war, was not to rake up the ashes of the past or to rekindle the animosity engendered during the strife, but as true sons and daughters of Confederate soldiers, to express anew the love and reverence in which the South will ever hold them,” Critz said at the ceremony. “This monument is erected to the heroism of the men who, for four years, made sacrifices, endured hardships and incurred dangers for a cause they believed to be right.”

A brief history of the Confederate statue in front of the Williamson County Courthouse

The statue was installed in November 1916.

communityimpact.com

 

[Robert W]

Yup
America in the 1940s

Did you apologize to blacks?

 

[Robert W]

That's your made up opinion, and a bullshit one at that.

Every Republican who doesn't want statues of confederates taken down is a supporter of the Confederacy now?

They are trying to wipe out history so Democrats won't keep being blamed for slavery and defending slavery.

 

[rightwinger]

Did you apologize to blacks?

?

 

[rightwinger]

They are trying to wipe out history so Democrats won't keep being blamed for slavery and defending slavery.

Slavery was here for 200 years before the Democratic Party was formed

It was a Southern institution

 

[Robert W]

Slavery was here for 200 years before the Democratic Party was formed

It was a Southern institution

The US Supreme court defended slavery.

 

[rightwinger]

The US Supreme court defended slavery.

So did the Republican Lt Governor in N Carolina

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

So did the Republican Lt Governor in N Carolina

The 'black nazi'?

 

[martybegan]

Do you really think so?

I know so.