Baron
Platinum Member
Folks relax, Putin, Zelensky & Co are players of the same gang which eliminates the Russian/Ukrainian/Belorussian people completely
They have given Russians and Ukrainians a sandbox on a deeply peripheral part of the front, in the area of all sorts of Maryinka-Klescheyevok-Avdeevok-Kurdyumovok, and told them to fight only there, without going beyond the perimeters of this location.
Well, that's where they are fighting - and the dust is piling up.
Meanwhile, on the most important, dangerous, decisive directions (Kiev-Bryansk-Moscow, Kharkov-Kursk-Moscow, Kherson-Nikolaev-Odessa) there is silence. Russians do not even try to move towards Zaporizhzhya (declared a Russian city, by the way). And the Ukrainians are not even trying to attack Donetsk, which is located at the very front line.
And it will be the same from now on.
Don't tell that the Russians withdrew from half-encircled Kiev and half-encircled Kharkov because they were defeated or suffered heavy losses.
If it had been so, the troops would have withdrawn 10-15 kilometers, to more convenient lines, where they would have stopped, waited for the approach of reinforcements - after which they would have moved again to Kiev and Kharkov. Because after the capture of Kiev and Kharkov, any Avdeevka and Bakhmut would have fallen into the hands of the victors without a fight.
And without the capture of Kyiv and Kharkiv, the battles on the periphery, which is far away by the standards of Ukraine, are practically meaningless.
However,there are no fights (and there never will be from now on) not only for Kyiv or Kharkiv, but also for Donetsk and Zaporozhye. No one is going to try to take Kherson any more, just as the Ukrainians will not try to take Belgorod.
Not to mention the complete inviolability of the pipeline.
Don't give naive "arguments" that Russia does not destroy strategically important bridges over the Dnieper or railroad junctions just because it cannot do so - its missiles, you see, are not that powerful....
There are different kinds of missiles, just like there are different kinds of bombs.
And are missiles the only way to destroy bridges and other objects?
In any case, Ukraine, with its much lesser capabilities, nevertheless struck the Kerch Bridge. Yes, it is difficult to blow it up completely. But as it turned out, it is quite realistic to disable some part of it. Not forever, of course. But still.
So why is the Russian Federation not capable of doing something similar with regard to bridges over the Dnieper (and not only the Dnieper)?
In any case, we know nothing about even attempts of such strikes, even if unsuccessful.
And it is not just bridges.
Putin and his corrupted billionaire gang has either murdered or banned almost any capable general who can effectively attack Ukrainians
Already during the Second World War, partisans and saboteurs were perfectly capable of derailing military echelons. But we do not hear about trains with Western equipment, derailed in Ukraine.
And on the expanses of Russia - also silence ...
True, drones sometimes fly as far as Moscow.
But this begs an immodest question: do they really come from Ukraine? Are they not being launched from the nearest wooded areas?...?
There is no need to babble that Zelensky (and not only him) is still alive only because he is skillfully hiding and it is absolutely impossible to get him.
A person is not a needle. Especially in our era, when a missile can be guided by the SIM card on your phone (it was on a working phone that the missile fired at Dzhokhar Dudayev in 1996 came - there was already such a technique back then).
Zelensky is not hiding from anyone, he travels quietly - both abroad and to the front line. Nothing threatens him - as well as any other member of the Ukrainian government. Because the Big White Lords do not give permission for the physical liquidation of even the cheapest of the Rada deputies.
In short: literally before our eyes, some murky spectacle is going on.
To be fair, it should be noted that normal people in Russia have a chance. They have access to information; Internet resources such as Telegram and YouTube are not blocked in Russia. Moreover, even in the absolutely pro-Russian Vkontaktektic there are pages and groups of such Ukrainian figures as Budanov, for example.
The borders are practically open (to the point of ridiculousness - they try to close them from the "other" side).
You can get out of the army without much difficulty.
And those who go to war are paid decent money.
In other words, although Russia looks like North Korea from the outside, a closer look reveals that there are some very important differences: in Russia, certain rules of the game are surprisingly well respected.
Almost everyone who wants to know the truth knows it.
Almost everyone who wants to leave - can do it (if finances allow).
Almost everyone who wants to get out of the army can do so.
Almost everyone fighting in Ukraine can be called a volunteer. Who is well paid.
Sometimes it is funny to hear or read calls from Ukrainians to "open the eyes of Russians", "tell them the truth about Bucha", and so on in the same vein.
Guys, calm down - we know everything perfectly well. Sometimes even more than you do.
99.9 percent of those Russians who post all sorts of ultra-patriotic motivators and pictures of themselves against the background of tricolors and St. George's ribbons on social networks do so completely voluntarily, on their own initiative.
But precisely because the Russian authorities strictly observe certain rules of the game, they can justifiably claim that they are not raping society at all and enjoy the real support of the masses.
Practically no one in Russia will ever be able to say: we knew nothing, we are not involved in anything, we are just dark people, our business is a side issue.
The population of North Korea or Turkmenistan can say that (a separate question is how sincere they are).
But the population of Russia cannot.
Thus, a considerable part of Russians are firmly covered, tied up, taken in a share.
The majority of Russians are neither tolerants nor witnesses, but real accomplices, quite conscious, used not for darkness at all.
The same we can say about Ukrainians
Two brother kill each other and their countries will be gifted to their enemies.
They have given Russians and Ukrainians a sandbox on a deeply peripheral part of the front, in the area of all sorts of Maryinka-Klescheyevok-Avdeevok-Kurdyumovok, and told them to fight only there, without going beyond the perimeters of this location.
Well, that's where they are fighting - and the dust is piling up.
Meanwhile, on the most important, dangerous, decisive directions (Kiev-Bryansk-Moscow, Kharkov-Kursk-Moscow, Kherson-Nikolaev-Odessa) there is silence. Russians do not even try to move towards Zaporizhzhya (declared a Russian city, by the way). And the Ukrainians are not even trying to attack Donetsk, which is located at the very front line.
And it will be the same from now on.
Don't tell that the Russians withdrew from half-encircled Kiev and half-encircled Kharkov because they were defeated or suffered heavy losses.
If it had been so, the troops would have withdrawn 10-15 kilometers, to more convenient lines, where they would have stopped, waited for the approach of reinforcements - after which they would have moved again to Kiev and Kharkov. Because after the capture of Kiev and Kharkov, any Avdeevka and Bakhmut would have fallen into the hands of the victors without a fight.
And without the capture of Kyiv and Kharkiv, the battles on the periphery, which is far away by the standards of Ukraine, are practically meaningless.
However,there are no fights (and there never will be from now on) not only for Kyiv or Kharkiv, but also for Donetsk and Zaporozhye. No one is going to try to take Kherson any more, just as the Ukrainians will not try to take Belgorod.
Not to mention the complete inviolability of the pipeline.
Don't give naive "arguments" that Russia does not destroy strategically important bridges over the Dnieper or railroad junctions just because it cannot do so - its missiles, you see, are not that powerful....
There are different kinds of missiles, just like there are different kinds of bombs.
And are missiles the only way to destroy bridges and other objects?
In any case, Ukraine, with its much lesser capabilities, nevertheless struck the Kerch Bridge. Yes, it is difficult to blow it up completely. But as it turned out, it is quite realistic to disable some part of it. Not forever, of course. But still.
So why is the Russian Federation not capable of doing something similar with regard to bridges over the Dnieper (and not only the Dnieper)?
In any case, we know nothing about even attempts of such strikes, even if unsuccessful.
And it is not just bridges.
Putin and his corrupted billionaire gang has either murdered or banned almost any capable general who can effectively attack Ukrainians
Already during the Second World War, partisans and saboteurs were perfectly capable of derailing military echelons. But we do not hear about trains with Western equipment, derailed in Ukraine.
And on the expanses of Russia - also silence ...
True, drones sometimes fly as far as Moscow.
But this begs an immodest question: do they really come from Ukraine? Are they not being launched from the nearest wooded areas?...?
There is no need to babble that Zelensky (and not only him) is still alive only because he is skillfully hiding and it is absolutely impossible to get him.
A person is not a needle. Especially in our era, when a missile can be guided by the SIM card on your phone (it was on a working phone that the missile fired at Dzhokhar Dudayev in 1996 came - there was already such a technique back then).
Zelensky is not hiding from anyone, he travels quietly - both abroad and to the front line. Nothing threatens him - as well as any other member of the Ukrainian government. Because the Big White Lords do not give permission for the physical liquidation of even the cheapest of the Rada deputies.
In short: literally before our eyes, some murky spectacle is going on.
To be fair, it should be noted that normal people in Russia have a chance. They have access to information; Internet resources such as Telegram and YouTube are not blocked in Russia. Moreover, even in the absolutely pro-Russian Vkontaktektic there are pages and groups of such Ukrainian figures as Budanov, for example.
The borders are practically open (to the point of ridiculousness - they try to close them from the "other" side).
You can get out of the army without much difficulty.
And those who go to war are paid decent money.
In other words, although Russia looks like North Korea from the outside, a closer look reveals that there are some very important differences: in Russia, certain rules of the game are surprisingly well respected.
Almost everyone who wants to know the truth knows it.
Almost everyone who wants to leave - can do it (if finances allow).
Almost everyone who wants to get out of the army can do so.
Almost everyone fighting in Ukraine can be called a volunteer. Who is well paid.
Sometimes it is funny to hear or read calls from Ukrainians to "open the eyes of Russians", "tell them the truth about Bucha", and so on in the same vein.
Guys, calm down - we know everything perfectly well. Sometimes even more than you do.
99.9 percent of those Russians who post all sorts of ultra-patriotic motivators and pictures of themselves against the background of tricolors and St. George's ribbons on social networks do so completely voluntarily, on their own initiative.
But precisely because the Russian authorities strictly observe certain rules of the game, they can justifiably claim that they are not raping society at all and enjoy the real support of the masses.
Practically no one in Russia will ever be able to say: we knew nothing, we are not involved in anything, we are just dark people, our business is a side issue.
The population of North Korea or Turkmenistan can say that (a separate question is how sincere they are).
But the population of Russia cannot.
Thus, a considerable part of Russians are firmly covered, tied up, taken in a share.
The majority of Russians are neither tolerants nor witnesses, but real accomplices, quite conscious, used not for darkness at all.
The same we can say about Ukrainians
Two brother kill each other and their countries will be gifted to their enemies.
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