The glaring evidence that Obamacare is a catastrophic FAILURE continues to mount

[RKMBrown]

Near as I can tell from Republican propaganda, nobody will have health insurance in 2014.

Retarded ass hole.

 

[oreo]

Near as I can tell from Republican propaganda, nobody will have health insurance in 2014.

Retarded ass hole.

Well, he may actually be right. If the young and healthy do not push the BUY button on these Obamacare exchanges--insurance rates across this country will in fact get so high that no one will be able to afford it.

The insurers were due to let us know what rates would be in 2015 in October 2014--but that too has been postponed until "after" the mid-term election cycle.

 

[beagle9]

So it's all just another stand off, while the good people of this country continue to lose, lose, lose.

 

[beagle9]

Single payer is the only alternative to this mess I think.

 

[dblack]

Near as I can tell from Republican propaganda, nobody will have health insurance in 2014.

Retarded ass hole.

Well, he may actually be right. If the young and healthy do not push the BUY button on these Obamacare exchanges--insurance rates across this country will in fact get so high that no one will be able to afford it.

The insurers were due to let us know what rates would be in 2015 in October 2014--but that too has been postponed until "after" the mid-term election cycle.

Then maybe we'll wise up and look into buy health care instead.

 

[dblack]

Single payer is the only alternative to this mess I think.

The last thing we should do is put all our eggs in one basket.

 

[PMZ]

Near as I can tell from Republican propaganda, nobody will have health insurance in 2014.

The numbers aren't showing it, that's for certain. 5.5 million polices were just cancelled--and if you add in the spouses and children under these plans--you could be talking about 12 million actually losing their insurance--and they sure don't seem to be jumping in there to push the BUY button on these Obamacare exchanges. Everyone has to be signed up prior to December 23, 2013 to be covered Jan. 1 2014.

Tons of free Medicade enrollees though-I guess that's something you can celebrate?

Nobody is losing insurance. There are plenty of plans for everyone. Those that were excluded before because we chose not to pay them enough, now can afford it.

The noise that you hear are the living dead media zombies moaning because they've been held accountable for their abysmal performance in governance. It has nothing to do with insurance. It's only about power.

They failed to impose their bankrupt dogma on we, the people, and they're pouting.

 

[PMZ]

Single payer is the only alternative to this mess I think.

The last thing we should do is put all our eggs in one basket.

Works fine for Medicare. It works fine for most of the developed countries of the world. But it won't work here?????

 

[Listening]

Near as I can tell from Republican propaganda, nobody will have health insurance in 2014.

The numbers aren't showing it, that's for certain. 5.5 million polices were just cancelled--and if you add in the spouses and children under these plans--you could be talking about 12 million actually losing their insurance--and they sure don't seem to be jumping in there to push the BUY button on these Obamacare exchanges. Everyone has to be signed up prior to December 23, 2013 to be covered Jan. 1 2014.

Tons of free Medicade enrollees though-I guess that's something you can celebrate?

Nobody is losing insurance. There are plenty of plans for everyone. Those that were excluded before because we chose not to pay them enough, now can afford it.

The noise that you hear are the living dead media zombies moaning because they've been held accountable for their abysmal performance in governance. It has nothing to do with insurance. It's only about power.

They failed to impose their bankrupt dogma on we, the people, and they're pouting.

You could just as easily say there are plenty of BMW's for everyone too. That fact that people can't afford them (or don't want them) does not seem to bother you socialist pricks.

Your Taurus was "substandard".......

Assholes.

 

[Listening]

I keep reading about other countries.

We are not other countries. We don't live in crowded cities with energy policies that drive the price of gas up to the point where all have to live in apartments....and where unemployment is so high.

I am fine with what they do for them. I certainly don't want any part of it.

They have health care systems that work for them.

We had a health care system that worked fine for us and is the envy of many (so much so that their rich tend to come here for the more difficult procedures).

I would not change theirs.

And our Affirmative Action Failure should not have changed ours.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html

 

[RKMBrown]

I keep reading about other countries.

We are not other countries. We don't live in crowded cities with energy policies that drive the price of gas up to the point where all have to live in apartments....and where unemployment is so high.

I am fine with what they do for them. I certainly don't want any part of it.

They have health care systems that work for them.

We had a health care system that worked fine for us and is the envy of many (so much so that their rich tend to come here for the more difficult procedures).

I would not change theirs.

And our Affirmative Action Failure should not have changed ours.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Public Approval of Health Care Law

Wait till you see the new Obama approved price tags. I won't pay the extra 60%. When this hits corporations next year there's gonna be rioting in the streets. The only people that won't give a shit are the folks that Obama is giving exemptions to. Have you seen all the new taxes this thing comes with? This is no longer our country, the demoscum have set their fires and are burning it down one group at a time.

 

[Listening]

I keep reading about other countries.

We are not other countries. We don't live in crowded cities with energy policies that drive the price of gas up to the point where all have to live in apartments....and where unemployment is so high.

I am fine with what they do for them. I certainly don't want any part of it.

They have health care systems that work for them.

We have a health care system that works fine for us and is the envy of many (so much so that their rich tend to come here for the more difficult procedures).

I would not change theirs.

And our Affirmative Action Failure should not have changed ours.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Public Approval of Health Care Law

>>> We have a health care system that works fine for us

Wait till you see the new Obama approved price tags. I won't pay the extra 60%. When this hits corporations next year there's gonna be rioting in the streets. The only people that won't give a shit are the folks that Obama is giving exemptions to. Have you not seen all the new taxes this thing comes with?

Thank....I edited the post....we "had" a health care system that worked fine for us.

And you served in the navy. I can't think of anything that is worse than this for you. I am so sorry we have so many who actually believed that money grows on trees and they somehow are smarter than the rest of us.

Look over at this thread.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/healt...43-when-did-junk-plans-become-junk-plans.html

The liars on the left have yet to produce one clip of Obama calling plans junk until it became obvious he needed to be rescued from his BIG LIE.

 

[RKMBrown]

I keep reading about other countries.

We are not other countries. We don't live in crowded cities with energy policies that drive the price of gas up to the point where all have to live in apartments....and where unemployment is so high.

I am fine with what they do for them. I certainly don't want any part of it.

They have health care systems that work for them.

We had a health care system that worked fine for us and is the envy of many (so much so that their rich tend to come here for the more difficult procedures).

I would not change theirs.

And our Affirmative Action Failure should not have changed ours.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Public Approval of Health Care Law

Wait till you see the new Obama approved price tags. I won't pay the extra 60%. When this hits corporations next year there's gonna be rioting in the streets. The only people that won't give a shit are the folks that Obama is giving exemptions to. Have you seen all the new taxes this thing comes with?

I am so sorry we have so many who actually believed that money grows on trees and they somehow are smarter than the rest of us.

Look over at this thread.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/healt...43-when-did-junk-plans-become-junk-plans.html

The liars on the left have yet to produce one clip of Obama calling plans junk until it became obvious he needed to be rescued from his BIG LIE.

HSAs with high deductibles are the way to go. The democrats know this and thus have freaked out and made HSA essentially illegal. HSAs would have given people what amounts to their own 401k for health care. It's a system where the free market would shine. I hate these assholes who have done this to my family.

 

[PMZ]

The numbers aren't showing it, that's for certain. 5.5 million polices were just cancelled--and if you add in the spouses and children under these plans--you could be talking about 12 million actually losing their insurance--and they sure don't seem to be jumping in there to push the BUY button on these Obamacare exchanges. Everyone has to be signed up prior to December 23, 2013 to be covered Jan. 1 2014.

Tons of free Medicade enrollees though-I guess that's something you can celebrate?

Nobody is losing insurance. There are plenty of plans for everyone. Those that were excluded before because we chose not to pay them enough, now can afford it.

The noise that you hear are the living dead media zombies moaning because they've been held accountable for their abysmal performance in governance. It has nothing to do with insurance. It's only about power.

They failed to impose their bankrupt dogma on we, the people, and they're pouting.

You could just as easily say there are plenty of BMW's for everyone too. That fact that people can't afford them (or don't want them) does not seem to bother you socialist pricks.

Your Taurus was "substandard".......

Assholes.

The government has nothing to do with health care costs or insurance profitability. You just refuse to deal with the real culprits.

 

[PMZ]

I keep reading about other countries.

We are not other countries. We don't live in crowded cities with energy policies that drive the price of gas up to the point where all have to live in apartments....and where unemployment is so high.

I am fine with what they do for them. I certainly don't want any part of it.

They have health care systems that work for them.

We had a health care system that worked fine for us and is the envy of many (so much so that their rich tend to come here for the more difficult procedures).

I would not change theirs.

And our Affirmative Action Failure should not have changed ours.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html

By "we" you, of course, meant "you". Those others don't count because presumably, they're not Republicans.

 

[Listening]

Wait till you see the new Obama approved price tags. I won't pay the extra 60%. When this hits corporations next year there's gonna be rioting in the streets. The only people that won't give a shit are the folks that Obama is giving exemptions to. Have you seen all the new taxes this thing comes with?

I am so sorry we have so many who actually believed that money grows on trees and they somehow are smarter than the rest of us.

Look over at this thread.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/healt...43-when-did-junk-plans-become-junk-plans.html

The liars on the left have yet to produce one clip of Obama calling plans junk until it became obvious he needed to be rescued from his BIG LIE.

HSAs with high deductibles are the way to go. The democrats know this and thus have freaked out and made HSA essentially illegal. HSAs would have given people what amounts to their own 401k for health care. It's a system where the free market would shine. I hate these assholes who have done this to my family.

It is what I have now....started when they first came out.

They work great.

 

[Listening]

I keep reading about other countries.

We are not other countries. We don't live in crowded cities with energy policies that drive the price of gas up to the point where all have to live in apartments....and where unemployment is so high.

I am fine with what they do for them. I certainly don't want any part of it.

They have health care systems that work for them.

We had a health care system that worked fine for us and is the envy of many (so much so that their rich tend to come here for the more difficult procedures).

I would not change theirs.

And our Affirmative Action Failure should not have changed ours.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Public Approval of Health Care Law

By "we" you, of course, meant "you". Those others don't count because presumably, they're not Republicans.

I am sorry you can't understand what the pronouns mean.

Is that covered under the ACA ?

 

[dblack]

Single payer is the only alternative to this mess I think.

The last thing we should do is put all our eggs in one basket.

Works fine for Medicare. It works fine for most of the developed countries of the world. But it won't work here?????

It's dangerous in general to commit to only one method of solving our problems. Diversity is the key to long term sustainability.

 

[Listening]

Nobody is losing insurance. There are plenty of plans for everyone. Those that were excluded before because we chose not to pay them enough, now can afford it.

The noise that you hear are the living dead media zombies moaning because they've been held accountable for their abysmal performance in governance. It has nothing to do with insurance. It's only about power.

They failed to impose their bankrupt dogma on we, the people, and they're pouting.

You could just as easily say there are plenty of BMW's for everyone too. That fact that people can't afford them (or don't want them) does not seem to bother you socialist pricks.

Your Taurus was "substandard".......

Assholes.

The government has nothing to do with health care costs or insurance profitability. You just refuse to deal with the real culprits.

As usual, you don't have a good quote from you list of "Talking points for ACA idiots" so you put something in that might touch on the topic at hand.

Fail

 

[Katzndogz]

Single payer is the only alternative to this mess I think.

The last thing we should do is put all our eggs in one basket.

Works fine for Medicare. It works fine for most of the developed countries of the world. But it won't work here?????

It doesn't work fine for Medicare. Medicare might be somewhat better than Medicaid, but only marginally so.

Single payer doesn't work. It doesn't work in those countries that have it and very few do. Those that have single payer don't have it for everyone. There is still a private option. England has a private option as does Germany. The best doctors and the most doctors opt out of accepting patients under government plans. Just like what's happening here. And, in every country that has single payer there is no right to sue your doctor for malpractice. You can file a complaint. Out of a population of 82.5 million, medical malpractice claims are no more than 40,000 a year. There are no large awards because there is no jury.

Medical Malpractice Liability: Germany | Law Library of Congress