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That's as stupid as asking if it is "natural" to talk like black guys talk.Homosexuality is a naturally occurring manifestation of the human condition, it is not a mental illness.
The issue has nothing to do with lawyers and PR firms but a realization on the part of the mental health community that there was a rush to judgement in the past with regard to homosexuality, where its classification as a mental illness was predicated on fear, hate, and ignorance.
Because homosexuality is normal, and always has been, the stigma of mental illness was appropriately removed in the context of scientific integrity, where mental health professionals acknowledged the error.
Is it "natural" to talk like gay guys talk? I get it that what they do behind closed doors is none of my beezwax but I have to admit hearing that efeminite talk coming out of a mans mouth is creepy. Seriously. Maybe that says something about me that I'm not in touch with but frankly the way some gays talk makes my stomach a little queezy.
I agree with post no. 1. Schizophrenia, manic depression, or pedophilia are also slices of human kind. But we don't make prior categories vanish because people in one of those groups have cash and clout to buy enough lawyers and PR firms to make them "acceptable". All of us here have to admit, things have radically changed in ten short years. To me, there is something rotten in Denmark, over the last ten years this issue has been thrust into American awareness. To whos benefit? We have a category of mental dysfunction for just about EVERYTHING nowadays. But suddenly, people with gender confusion and all the resulting sexual confusion is...NORMAL? Something isnt adding up here.
Homosexuality is a naturally occurring manifestation of the human condition, it is not a mental illness.
The issue has nothing to do with lawyers and PR firms but a realization on the part of the mental health community that there was a rush to judgement in the past with regard to homosexuality, where its classification as a mental illness was predicated on fear, hate, and ignorance.
Because homosexuality is normal, and always has been, the stigma of mental illness was appropriately removed in the context of scientific integrity, where mental health professionals acknowledged the error.
"Normal" if you wish to consider it a "human condition". Highly abnormal if you consider natural law.
Homosexuality is a naturally occurring manifestation of the human condition, it is not a mental illness.
The issue has nothing to do with lawyers and PR firms but a realization on the part of the mental health community that there was a rush to judgement in the past with regard to homosexuality, where its classification as a mental illness was predicated on fear, hate, and ignorance.
Because homosexuality is normal, and always has been, the stigma of mental illness was appropriately removed in the context of scientific integrity, where mental health professionals acknowledged the error.
"Normal" if you wish to consider it a "human condition". Highly abnormal if you consider natural law.
All the claims that homosexuality is prevalent and normal among humans is based upon Kinsey's faulty and discredited studies.
Not natural for you, perhaps...but you can't speak for anyone else. And then you liken it to infanticide. Priceless. What a waste of space and oxygen you are."Normal" if you wish to consider it a "human condition". Highly abnormal if you consider natural law.
All the claims that homosexuality is prevalent and normal among humans is based upon Kinsey's faulty and discredited studies.
I admit, I am not that familiar with Kinsey's studies, so cannot reference them to support or discredit my opinions concerning homosexuality. I base my opinion that homosexuality, particularly as it relates to sexual penetration, is a specific construct of the human psyche. It is not a normal facet of natural behavior as applied to other mammals. I know that the proponents of regarding homosexuality as "natural" will always dig up and cite a few (rare) "documented" examples of such mammalian behavior, that does not make it a normal behavior. Biologically speaking, homosexuality is as counterproductive and abnormal as it gets. But hold in mind that homo sapiens equates sexuality with an entire range of emotions. Most specifically, humans will use sex to express their emotional attachment to, or affection for, another human being. I don't really care whether someone self-identifies as a homosexual, lesbian, or whatever. Feeling an attachment to another human being of the same gender is not unnatural. I will even admit that expressing that attachment through sexual means may be "normal" for the human condition, but it is not natural.
Just another one of those human traits that separate us from animals...kinda like murdering our unborn offspring.
As soon as someone else is required to treat a benign trait as normal, their rights are being infringed on. Homosexuals should not be berated or harassed, it is an obligation of every person to judge them, or discriminate FOR or against them, as the individual sees fit.
While homosexuality might be considered "normal" by human definition and standards, it is not normal by Natural law. In Nature, sex is a means of propagating the species. Homosexuality does nothing to continue a species existence. Under human definition, sex is also a means to express one's affection for another. Homosexuals, like heterosexuals, use sex as an expression of their affection for and bond with, another being.
In the human sense, I suppose one could label homosexuality as "normal" for homo-sapiens.
While homosexuality might be considered "normal" by human definition and standards, it is not normal by Natural law. In Nature, sex is a means of propagating the species. Homosexuality does nothing to continue a species existence. Under human definition, sex is also a means to express one's affection for another. Homosexuals, like heterosexuals, use sex as an expression of their affection for and bond with, another being.
In the human sense, I suppose one could label homosexuality as "normal" for homo-sapiens.
In nature, homosexuality allows creatures to satisfy their sex drive without causing havoc in established tribes. So in polygamous groups, the unattached males having other outlets could help continue the species' existence by not upsetting the time-tested status quo.
Yeah, that's why juvenile and non-dominant males hang around the edges of herds (tribes), often dashing in to breed the females when the superior males are engaged in combat. If you refer to the mounting behavior often observed in bachelor groups, you will also observe similar mounting activities in groups of females, too. If you observe closely enough, you will also notice that there is no sexual penetration. Such displays serve to establish the herd hierarchy, those doing the mounting being superior to those mounted.
I agree with post no. 1. Schizophrenia, manic depression, or pedophilia are also slices of human kind. But we don't make prior categories vanish because people in one of those groups have cash and clout to buy enough lawyers and PR firms to make them "acceptable". All of us here have to admit, things have radically changed in ten short years. To me, there is something rotten in Denmark, over the last ten years this issue has been thrust into American awareness. To whos benefit? We have a category of mental dysfunction for just about EVERYTHING nowadays. But suddenly, people with gender confusion and all the resulting sexual confusion is...NORMAL? Something isnt adding up here.
Homosexuality is a naturally occurring manifestation of the human condition, it is not a mental illness.
The issue has nothing to do with lawyers and PR firms but a realization on the part of the mental health community that there was a rush to judgement in the past with regard to homosexuality, where its classification as a mental illness was predicated on fear, hate, and ignorance.
Because homosexuality is normal, and always has been, the stigma of mental illness was appropriately removed in the context of scientific integrity, where mental health professionals acknowledged the error.
Much of what we've learned of homosexuality came from others besides Kinsey. You say Kinsey was debunked, and imply that everyone after him was as well. Where is your proof of these claims?As I said. Kinsey. They swallowed. And this loon is regurgitating it.
No, straight from quite a few other researchers besides Kinsey. Your argument is similar to claiming that all psychology is straight from Freud and we've not learned anything else since him. Your argument is irrational and illogical.All that crap that he just spouted there...the *normality* of h omosexuality etc....all straight from Kinsey.
And heterosexuality is perfectly normal among pedophiles and incarcerated sex offenders also.Yup, it's perfectly normal among homosexuals, pedophiles and incarcerated sex offenders.
No, because schizophrenia meets the definition of mental illness, homosexuality does not.BTW, schizophrenia is natural too.
So should we remove that from the mental illness list?
Thanks for the confession, rav. It will help others to understand, I'm sure.
Oh look, a big "Christians are bad" plopped down in the middle of a thread discussing the normalization of homosexuality.
Next stop....pedophilia as an orientation.
The History behind Normalizing Homosexuality
I find it interesting that the author of this thread CHOSE the word "Behind" to use in the title...
VERY interesting...
Very telling?
Or.... is it?
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Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went AwayAn alternative perspective on mental disorders | PHILIP HICKEY, PH.D.
According to the American Psychiatric Association, until 1974 homosexuality was a mental illness. Freud had alluded to homosexuality numerous times in his writings, and had concluded that paranoia and homosexuality were inseparable. Other psychiatrists wrote copiously on the subject, and homosexuality was treated on a wide basis. There was little or no suggestion within the psychiatric community that homosexuality might be conceptualized as anything other than a mental illness that needed to be treated. And, of course, homosexuality was listed as a mental illness in DSM-II.
Then in 1970 gay activists protested against the APA convention in San Francisco. These scenes were repeated in 1971, and as people came out of the closet and felt empowered politically and socially, the APA directorate became increasingly uncomfortable with their stance. In 1973 the APAs nomenclature task force recommended that homosexuality be declared normal. The trustees were not prepared to go that far, but they did vote to remove homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses by a vote of 13 to 0, with 2 abstentions. This decision was confirmed by a vote of the APA membership, and homosexuality was no longer listed in the seventh edition of DSM-II, which was issued in 1974.
Whats noteworthy about this is that the removal of homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses was not triggered by some scientific breakthrough. There was no new fact or set of facts that stimulated this major change. Rather, it was the simple reality that gay people started to kick up a fuss. They gained a voice and began to make themselves heard. And the APA reacted with truly astonishing speed. And with good reason. They realized intuitively that a protracted battle would have drawn increasing attention to the spurious nature of their entire taxonomy. So they quickly cut loose the gay community and forestalled any radical scrutiny of the DSM system generally.
Also noteworthy is the fact that the vote of the membership was by no means unanimous. Only about 55% of the members who voted favored the change.
Of course, the APA put the best spin they could on these events. The fact is that they altered their taxonomy because of intense pressure from the gay community, but they claimed that the change was prompted by research findings.
So all the people who had this terrible illness were cured overnight by a vote!
Read MOAR!:
Mental Health Diagnoses Decided by Vote, Not Discovery
And if you don't Believe this Doctor's Claims about the Protests, would you Believe Gays themselves?...
"The May 1971 Scene: A Bad Time for a Conference in Washington DC
The American Psychiatric Association (APA) held its annual convention in Washington DC during the first week of May 1971, amidst the turmoil and congestion of the MayDay antiwar demonstrations and at a time when the Gay MayDay contingent in those demonstrations had drawn large numbers of gay men and lesbians to the city. The convention was held at the Shoreham Hotel which backed up on Rock Creek Park. The scene in the city was chaotic: protestors, estimated at more than 10,000, (the remnants of an initial contingent of nearly 50,000) had spent the mornings of Monday May 3rd and Tuesday May 4th disrupting traffic, blocking roads and bridges, and trying to bring the normal business of government to a halt in protest against the Vietnam War. An even larger federal force, some 13,000, of soldiers (Marines and US Army), National Guardsmen, and police fought off the protestors. More than 10,000 were arrested. Tear gas and smoke were in the air in downtown Washington DC. The streets around the APA convention were patrolled
Following disruption by gay activists at the 1970 convention in San Francisco, the APA offered a conference panel discussion to be organized by Dr. Kameny, who invited Barbara Gittings, Jack Baker and others to participate in a discussion entitled "Lifestyles of Nonpatient Homosexuals", which ensured the panelists admittance to all of the convention's activities including the annual Convocation of Fellows."
1971: Zapping the APA Convention
The best part about this History is that at this time Gay Organizations were Directly in Line with and Marching with NAMBLA... Fact not Fiction.
It wasn't until 1994 that the Gay Community was finally "outed" regarding their Ties to NAMBLA when the ILGA was removed from the World Conference on Population and Disease for it.
Since that year, they have been Smart enough to Avoid their old Friends...
But not always:
University of Minnesota Press book challenges anxiety about pedophilia
Mark O'Keefe Newhouse News Service
Published Mar 26, 2002
Source: StarTribune.com: News, weather, sports from Minneapolis, St. Paul and Minnesota (Link has since been Purged by the Star... Of course... But I have the entire thing here)
Sex between adults and children has been a societal taboo so strong that it's considered one of our few unquestioned moral principles. But arguments have emerged in academic journals, books and online that at least some such sex should be acceptable, especially when children consent to it...
With more research, some scholars say, it may be only a matter of time before modern society accepts adult-child sex, just as it has learned to accept premarital sex and homosexual sex.
"Children are the last bastion of the old sexual morality," wrote one of the trailblazers for this view, Harris Mirkin, an associate professor of political science at the University of Missouri-Kansas City...
Mirkin, whose academic specialty is the politics of sex, wrote in a 1999 article published in The Journal of Homosexuality that society perceives youths as seduced, abused victims and not "partners or initiators or willing participants" in sex with adults, "even if they are hustlers."
In an interview, Mirkin said the outrage surrounding the Roman Catholic Church's pedophilia scandal illustrates how the public views acts of intergenerational contact as "one big blur" of child abuse when it's likely "very, very mild stuff."
"We say if someone touches or molests or diddles or whatever a kid it will ruin the rest of their life. I don't believe it. I think kids are more likely to laugh at it more than anything else -- unless the whole culture says this is the most horrible thing that can happen to you."
Mirkin is not alone in questioning whether children are harmed by sexual contact with adults. The March 2002 American Psychologist devotes its entire issue to the ongoing fallout of a journal article that did just that.
The piece, in the July 1998 issue of Psychological Bulletin, was written by Bruce Rind, then an assistant professor of psychology at Temple University; Robert Bauserman, a lecturer then with the department of psychology at the University of Michigan; and Philip Tromovitch, then pursuing a doctorate at the University of Pennsylvania.
The trio reviewed 59 studies of college students who, as children, had sexual interaction with significantly older people or were coerced into sexual activity with someone of their own age. They concluded that negative effects "were neither pervasive nor typically intense, and that men reacted much less negatively than women." It recommended that a child's "willing encounter with positive reactions" be called "adult-child sex" instead of "abuse."
A soon-to-be-released book, "Harmful to Minors: The Perils of Protecting Children From Sex," is being advertised by its publisher, University of Minnesota Press, as challenging widespread anxieties about pedophilia.
In an interview, the book's author, journalist Judith Levine, praised the Rind study as evidence that "doesn't line up with the ideology that it's always harmful for kids to have sexual relationships with adults."
She said the pedophilia among Roman Catholic priests is complicated to analyze, because it's almost always secret, considered forbidden and involves an authority figure.
She added, however, that, "yes, conceivably, absolutely" a boy's sexual experience with a priest could be positive."...
You can read MOAR at the link under the headline.
Of course I will be Attacked for Observing what is... But what I have Posted is 100% True.
And if you Doubt for a Minute that the Pedo's are the Gays of the 50's and 60's right now to the Gay Community, then you are kidding yourselves.
The ONLY Reason most of them Distances themselves from NAMBLA and the others is because they got Caught and it Harmed their own Agenda.
History is what it is... If you want to be Angry about History then so be it.
I'm just an Observer.
peace...
I agree with post no. 1. Schizophrenia, manic depression, or pedophilia are also slices of human kind. But we don't make prior categories vanish because people in one of those groups have cash and clout to buy enough lawyers and PR firms to make them "acceptable". All of us here have to admit, things have radically changed in ten short years. To me, there is something rotten in Denmark, over the last ten years this issue has been thrust into American awareness. To whos benefit? We have a category of mental dysfunction for just about EVERYTHING nowadays. But suddenly, people with gender confusion and all the resulting sexual confusion is...NORMAL? Something isnt adding up here.
Homosexuality is a naturally occurring manifestation of the human condition, it is not a mental illness.
The issue has nothing to do with lawyers and PR firms but a realization on the part of the mental health community that there was a rush to judgement in the past with regard to homosexuality, where its classification as a mental illness was predicated on fear, hate, and ignorance.
Because homosexuality is normal, and always has been, the stigma of mental illness was appropriately removed in the context of scientific integrity, where mental health professionals acknowledged the error.
"Normal" if you wish to consider it a "human condition". Highly abnormal if you consider natural law.
Homosexuality is a naturally occurring manifestation of the human condition, it is not a ‘mental illness.’
The issue has nothing to do with lawyers and PR firms but a realization on the part of the mental health community that there was a rush to judgement in the past with regard to homosexuality, where its classification as a ‘mental illness’ was predicated on fear, hate, and ignorance.
Because homosexuality is normal, and always has been, the stigma of ‘mental illness’ was appropriately removed in the context of scientific integrity, where mental health professionals acknowledged the error.
"Normal" if you wish to consider it a "human condition". Highly abnormal if you consider natural law.
All the claims that homosexuality is prevalent and normal among humans is based upon Kinsey's faulty and discredited studies.
The percentage of adults in the United States who identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT) ranges from 1.7% in North Dakota to 5.1% in Hawaii and 10% in the District of Columbia, according to findings from a new study released by Williams Institute Distinguished Scholar, Gary J. Gates, and Gallup Editor-in-Chief, Frank Newport. The study is the largest population-based survey ever conducted that includes measurement of LGBT identification.
While LGBT communities are clearly present in every state in the union, their visibility is generally higher in states with greater levels of social acceptance and LGBT supportive legal climates. With the exception of South Dakota, each of the states with populations 4 percent and over has laws prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity. These states have also taken steps toward more LBGT equality by recognizing same-sex marriages, civil unions, or domestic partnerships. Iowa is the only state among those with the lowest LGBT populations to extend similar rights. In fact, six of the ten states with the lowest LGBT populations are among the most conservative states in the country.
Not only been dealt with, been thrashed and trashed.Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went AwayAn alternative perspective on mental disorders | PHILIP HICKEY, PH.D.
According to the American Psychiatric Association, until 1974 homosexuality was a mental illness. Freud had alluded to homosexuality numerous times in his writings, and had concluded that paranoia and homosexuality were inseparable. Other psychiatrists wrote copiously on the subject, and homosexuality was treated on a wide basis. There was little or no suggestion within the psychiatric community that homosexuality might be conceptualized as anything other than a mental illness that needed to be treated. And, of course, homosexuality was listed as a mental illness in DSM-II.
Then in 1970 gay activists protested against the APA convention in San Francisco. These scenes were repeated in 1971, and as people came out of the closet and felt empowered politically and socially, the APA directorate became increasingly uncomfortable with their stance. In 1973 the APAs nomenclature task force recommended that homosexuality be declared normal. The trustees were not prepared to go that far, but they did vote to remove homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses by a vote of 13 to 0, with 2 abstentions. This decision was confirmed by a vote of the APA membership, and homosexuality was no longer listed in the seventh edition of DSM-II, which was issued in 1974.
Whats noteworthy about this is that the removal of homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses was not triggered by some scientific breakthrough. There was no new fact or set of facts that stimulated this major change. Rather, it was the simple reality that gay people started to kick up a fuss. They gained a voice and began to make themselves heard. And the APA reacted with truly astonishing speed. And with good reason. They realized intuitively that a protracted battle would have drawn increasing attention to the spurious nature of their entire taxonomy. So they quickly cut loose the gay community and forestalled any radical scrutiny of the DSM system generally.
Also noteworthy is the fact that the vote of the membership was by no means unanimous. Only about 55% of the members who voted favored the change.
Of course, the APA put the best spin they could on these events. The fact is that they altered their taxonomy because of intense pressure from the gay community, but they claimed that the change was prompted by research findings.
So all the people who had this terrible illness were cured overnight by a vote!
Read MOAR!:
Mental Health Diagnoses Decided by Vote, Not Discovery
And if you don't Believe this Doctor's Claims about the Protests, would you Believe Gays themselves?...
"The May 1971 Scene: A Bad Time for a Conference in Washington DC
The American Psychiatric Association (APA) held its annual convention in Washington DC during the first week of May 1971, amidst the turmoil and congestion of the MayDay antiwar demonstrations and at a time when the Gay MayDay contingent in those demonstrations had drawn large numbers of gay men and lesbians to the city. The convention was held at the Shoreham Hotel which backed up on Rock Creek Park. The scene in the city was chaotic: protestors, estimated at more than 10,000, (the remnants of an initial contingent of nearly 50,000) had spent the mornings of Monday May 3rd and Tuesday May 4th disrupting traffic, blocking roads and bridges, and trying to bring the normal business of government to a halt in protest against the Vietnam War. An even larger federal force, some 13,000, of soldiers (Marines and US Army), National Guardsmen, and police fought off the protestors. More than 10,000 were arrested. Tear gas and smoke were in the air in downtown Washington DC. The streets around the APA convention were patrolled
Following disruption by gay activists at the 1970 convention in San Francisco, the APA offered a conference panel discussion to be organized by Dr. Kameny, who invited Barbara Gittings, Jack Baker and others to participate in a discussion entitled "Lifestyles of Nonpatient Homosexuals", which ensured the panelists admittance to all of the convention's activities including the annual Convocation of Fellows."
1971: Zapping the APA Convention
The best part about this History is that at this time Gay Organizations were Directly in Line with and Marching with NAMBLA... Fact not Fiction.
It wasn't until 1994 that the Gay Community was finally "outed" regarding their Ties to NAMBLA when the ILGA was removed from the World Conference on Population and Disease for it.
Since that year, they have been Smart enough to Avoid their old Friends...
But not always:
University of Minnesota Press book challenges anxiety about pedophilia
Mark O'Keefe Newhouse News Service
Published Mar 26, 2002
Source: StarTribune.com: News, weather, sports from Minneapolis, St. Paul and Minnesota (Link has since been Purged by the Star... Of course... But I have the entire thing here)
Sex between adults and children has been a societal taboo so strong that it's considered one of our few unquestioned moral principles. But arguments have emerged in academic journals, books and online that at least some such sex should be acceptable, especially when children consent to it...
With more research, some scholars say, it may be only a matter of time before modern society accepts adult-child sex, just as it has learned to accept premarital sex and homosexual sex.
"Children are the last bastion of the old sexual morality," wrote one of the trailblazers for this view, Harris Mirkin, an associate professor of political science at the University of Missouri-Kansas City...
Mirkin, whose academic specialty is the politics of sex, wrote in a 1999 article published in The Journal of Homosexuality that society perceives youths as seduced, abused victims and not "partners or initiators or willing participants" in sex with adults, "even if they are hustlers."
In an interview, Mirkin said the outrage surrounding the Roman Catholic Church's pedophilia scandal illustrates how the public views acts of intergenerational contact as "one big blur" of child abuse when it's likely "very, very mild stuff."
"We say if someone touches or molests or diddles or whatever a kid it will ruin the rest of their life. I don't believe it. I think kids are more likely to laugh at it more than anything else -- unless the whole culture says this is the most horrible thing that can happen to you."
Mirkin is not alone in questioning whether children are harmed by sexual contact with adults. The March 2002 American Psychologist devotes its entire issue to the ongoing fallout of a journal article that did just that.
The piece, in the July 1998 issue of Psychological Bulletin, was written by Bruce Rind, then an assistant professor of psychology at Temple University; Robert Bauserman, a lecturer then with the department of psychology at the University of Michigan; and Philip Tromovitch, then pursuing a doctorate at the University of Pennsylvania.
The trio reviewed 59 studies of college students who, as children, had sexual interaction with significantly older people or were coerced into sexual activity with someone of their own age. They concluded that negative effects "were neither pervasive nor typically intense, and that men reacted much less negatively than women." It recommended that a child's "willing encounter with positive reactions" be called "adult-child sex" instead of "abuse."
A soon-to-be-released book, "Harmful to Minors: The Perils of Protecting Children From Sex," is being advertised by its publisher, University of Minnesota Press, as challenging widespread anxieties about pedophilia.
In an interview, the book's author, journalist Judith Levine, praised the Rind study as evidence that "doesn't line up with the ideology that it's always harmful for kids to have sexual relationships with adults."
She said the pedophilia among Roman Catholic priests is complicated to analyze, because it's almost always secret, considered forbidden and involves an authority figure.
She added, however, that, "yes, conceivably, absolutely" a boy's sexual experience with a priest could be positive."...
You can read MOAR at the link under the headline.
Of course I will be Attacked for Observing what is... But what I have Posted is 100% True.
And if you Doubt for a Minute that the Pedo's are the Gays of the 50's and 60's right now to the Gay Community, then you are kidding yourselves.
The ONLY Reason most of them Distances themselves from NAMBLA and the others is because they got Caught and it Harmed their own Agenda.
History is what it is... If you want to be Angry about History then so be it.
I'm just an Observer.
peace...
Bodecea's Sock Seawytch never dealt with this OP either...
No Surprise.
peace...
While homosexuality might be considered "normal" by human definition and standards, it is not normal by Natural law. In Nature, sex is a means of propagating the species. Homosexuality does nothing to continue a species existence. Under human definition, sex is also a means to express one's affection for another. Homosexuals, like heterosexuals, use sex as an expression of their affection for and bond with, another being.
In the human sense, I suppose one could label homosexuality as "normal" for homo-sapiens.
Scientists have determined that homosexuality occurs in about 1500 animal species and is therefore obviously considered natural; you are wrong. sorry
In nature, homosexuality allows creatures to satisfy their sex drive without causing havoc in established tribes. So in polygamous groups, the unattached males having other outlets could help continue the species' existence by not upsetting the time-tested status quo.
Yeah, that's why juvenile and non-dominant males hang around the edges of herds (tribes), often dashing in to breed the females when the superior males are engaged in combat. If you refer to the mounting behavior often observed in bachelor groups, you will also observe similar mounting activities in groups of females, too. If you observe closely enough, you will also notice that there is no sexual penetration. Such displays serve to establish the herd hierarchy, those doing the mounting being superior to those mounted.
"If we refer to the mounting behavior often observed"? No we are not referring to such. We are referring to homosexuality being found in 1500 species which commonsensically means homosexuality is natural, by definition because it occurs in nature.
Homosexuality is a naturally occurring manifestation of the human condition, it is not a mental illness.
The issue has nothing to do with lawyers and PR firms but a realization on the part of the mental health community that there was a rush to judgement in the past with regard to homosexuality, where its classification as a mental illness was predicated on fear, hate, and ignorance.
Because homosexuality is normal, and always has been, the stigma of mental illness was appropriately removed in the context of scientific integrity, where mental health professionals acknowledged the error.
"Normal" if you wish to consider it a "human condition". Highly abnormal if you consider natural law.
Not at all. It occurs in about 1500 different animal species, therefore it occurs in nature; hence by definition it is natural.
