The left is killing the economy .

Once a reliably-Blue State, Democrat policies have turned West Virginia completely Red - See more at: Once a reliably-Blue State, Democrat policies have turned West Virginia completely Red | Poor Richard's News

West Virginia used to vote Democrat in every Presidential election, but those days seem completely over. As Democrats in Washington continue to push policies that negatively impact the lives of virtually every West Virginian, the state has turned from Dark Blue to Bright Red.

from Washington Post:

Ordinary West Virginians used to look to Washington with something close to reverence. It was a partner in good times, a lifeline in bad ones, a powerful ally against the big corporations that came for its coal and timber. By some measures, West Virginia relies more on federal money than any other state.

But increasingly, it also has become an extreme example of the hostility that shows up in every national poll when people are asked how they feel about the federal government. Many here now speak of Washington as an enemy that threatens their economy and their way of life, that traps them into dependency.

“Washington’s 100 percent against us,” said M.E. Walker, a retired road builder who lives in Pence Springs in Summers County. “They don’t like our jobs. They don’t like our attitudes.” […]
From Franklin D. Roosevelt’s era until the 2000 election, it was among the most reliably Democratic states, one of only six that Jimmy Carter carried in 1980, and 10 that Michael S. Dukakis won in 1988.
But in the past decade or so, “West Virginia has realigned politically with the Deep South, at least in presidential elections,” historian John Alexander Williams said in a June lecture in Charleston marking the state’s 150th anniversary. “Between the 2004 and 2008 presidential elections, a time when voters were trending strongly Democratic in other parts of the nation, 366 of official Appalachia’s 410 counties increased their Republican share of presidential votes.”

In 2012, that trendline cut more deeply. Obama lost the seven West Virginia counties he had carried in 2008. It marked the first time that a major party’s presidential candidate suffered a 55-county shutout.

- See more at: Once a reliably-Blue State, Democrat policies have turned West Virginia completely Red | Poor Richard's News

Good. Let the Libs shoot themselves in the foot (again and again and again). Their only supporters are gays and the entitlement class but they'll lose the entitlement class when they completely destroy the middle class and there's no more free stuff to hand out.
 
The LEFT has in its budget $40 billion in new taxes awaiting the only industry that is currently propping up this shit economy.

Fuck the Liberal train wreck.

The Republican sham of lower taxes and less regulation doesn't help anyone but the richest Americans and Big Business and kill jobs and opportunity for almost everyone, especially in the middle class and poor.

Straw man argument.
The economy went bust because of liberal policies which interfered in the real estate marketplace.
The liberals inside the Beltway made up the rules. They were warned the policies would eventually collapse the housing market and many financial institutions with it.
The libs said "we must make home ownership available to our less fortunate".....BOOM...
There is no "yeah but"....
 
The jobs lost in the recession were lost BECAUSE of Republican Policies, lies and fallacies- Can we say Trickle Down (Voodoo!) Economics? Hell, even Dubya's Dad knew that stuff was, uh, Bunk!

Now they want you to believe them when they claim they know what's best for the rest of us?

Your ignorance of macro-economics is only exceeded by your desire to share it with the rest of us.

Jobs were lost because the economy went into recession. A twelve year old can comprehend that simple fact. Neither Bush policies, nor trickle down economics had a damn thing to do with causing the recession.

The economy went into recession because of the dry up of credit caused by the bust of the housing boom. Even you should be able to figure that out. When consumers are out of both cash and credit, they quit buying and that causes the economy to shrink.

The follow on financial crisis, also caused by the bust of the housing bubble, helped dry up credit, but the recession was already a fact by then. There was no brink to be brought back from, since TARP averted the financial crisis before Obama ever took office.

Your leaders know that you are ignorant, and feed you the BS that you regurgitate on message boards.

This administration and the federal reserve have thrown $trillions at the economy trying to prove that Keynesian economics works, and five and a half years later, the economy is still bouncing along the bottom. How long is it going to take you people to realize that you don't have a clue?

Dad is an ignorant crack addict.

that guy is a master of hyperbole.
 
The jobs lost in the recession were lost BECAUSE of Republican Policies, lies and fallacies- Can we say Trickle Down (Voodoo!) Economics? Hell, even Dubya's Dad knew that stuff was, uh, Bunk!

Now they want you to believe them when they claim they know what's best for the rest of us?

Your ignorance of macro-economics is only exceeded by your desire to share it with the rest of us.

Jobs were lost because the economy went into recession. A twelve year old can comprehend that simple fact. Neither Bush policies, nor trickle down economics had a damn thing to do with causing the recession.

The economy went into recession because of the dry up of credit caused by the bust of the housing boom. Even you should be able to figure that out. When consumers are out of both cash and credit, they quit buying and that causes the economy to shrink.

The follow on financial crisis, also caused by the bust of the housing bubble, helped dry up credit, but the recession was already a fact by then. There was no brink to be brought back from, since TARP averted the financial crisis before Obama ever took office.

Your leaders know that you are ignorant, and feed you the BS that you regurgitate on message boards.

This administration and the federal reserve have thrown $trillions at the economy trying to prove that Keynesian economics works, and five and a half years later, the economy is still bouncing along the bottom. How long is it going to take you people to realize that you don't have a clue?

Do you proof this stuff before you hit "reply"?

Jobs were "lost" because they were going overseas. The Bush administration saw this and did nothing. They could have closed the Eisenhower tax "loophole" which was meant to encourage overseas investment. But they didn't. And actually, they made things worse with tax "holidays" which actually rewarded this behavior. It also sent a signal to manufacturers that the Bush administration would not be investing in infrastructure. Which hit them in two ways. First, government contracts. Second in the actual infrastructure they use as well. So tax incentives, no contracts and crappy infrastructure? Why not go where labor is cheap.

Secondly, it was the Bush administration that CAUSED the financial mess. Lowering taxes on the wealthy and lowering interest rates created lots of cheap cash ripe for a bubble. Add in Bush starved regulators of resources, packed regulators with business "friendly" leaders and did nothing about regulatory capture. The Arthur Anderson/Enron debacle should have been a clue as to what was going on, but the Bush administration put up some pretty weak regulations after that. What? Sarbanes-Oxley? Mark to Market? You mean that corporations had to tell the "truth". Woe is me! And it did nothing about the Mortgage backed securities that would infect our whole financial sector.

Additionally Bush started two unfunded WARS. Along with a brand new spanking Department of homeland security. Anybody that knew anything knew that was going to make for a heap of trouble. THEN? He started nation building.

When the shit hit the fan AGAIN? Bush didn't believe it. He let Lehman go under. That cost ALOT of jobs in the financial sector. And when that went? Layoffs went though the street like crazy. In a panic, they put TARP together and left the shit sandwich for the next guy to clean up.

THAT'S what happened, ace.

You must be kidding...The widely spouted talking point "jobs going overseas" is just that. A political talking point.
The fact is any jobs that are no longer done here are low level unskilled service jobs that US companies were having difficulty filling.
 
Lower tax rates on individuals and corporations ,Lower energy costs through coal and natural gas ,and oil resources sitting in the ground waiting to be used. ect...... the left is against everything that would boost our economy .....WHY ??

I believe it is that lower tax rates don't increase increase economic activities and fossil fuels create pollution which, it turns out, includes co2.

I'm pretty sure that's why. Now that you ask, it occurs to me that the reason against fossil fuels include pollutants from the beginning of extraction all the way up to combustion.


That is what I've read so far.

What can you think of?

There are some great apps that help boost memory, if that's the difficulty you're up against.

It could be a cognitive problem, such as asking rhetorical questions all the time instead of just objectively learning.
What you believe is immaterial.
From your perspective, the higher the tax rates, the better.
So let's go for the gusto. Make all income subject to a 100% tax. Then government in its infinite wisdom can redistribute wealth in a manner you deem "fair"....
How's that?
 
Of course, RW hater dupes are totally clueless. After 32 years of voodoom, big business and 1%ers are doing great, small business and the nonrich get screwed. see sig. The left hasn't done anything in 5 years, still better than Pub bubbles/busts....Hater dupes are functional morons.
 
Lower tax rates on individuals and corporations ,Lower energy costs through coal and natural gas ,and oil resources sitting in the ground waiting to be used. ect...... the left is against everything that would boost our economy .....WHY ??

Yes we saw how the economy boomed under Dubya, lol



CBO: Fed tax rates hit historic low

The average tax rates for American households reached a historical low in 2009, according to a report issued by the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office.

Indeed, federal taxes for American households averaged 17.4 percent in 2009, a historical low over the 1979 to 2009 period.

WEIRD, WASN'T THAT WHEN THE TP (BIRCHERS) WERE FORMED?


CBO: Fed tax rates hit historic low - Tim Mak - POLITICO.com


Your taxes are really low, in one chart


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The average filer saw her effective tax rate drop from 22 percent in 1979 to 18.1 percent in 2010

Your taxes are really low, in one chart - The Washington Post


Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950


Federal, state and local income taxes consumed 9.2% of all personal income in 2009, the lowest rate since 1950

Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950 - USATODAY.com



Non-Partisan Congressional Tax Report Debunks Core Conservative Economic Theory

The conclusion?

Lowering the tax rates on the wealthy and top earners in America do not appear to have any impact on the nation’s economic growth.



This paragraph from the report says it all—

“The reduction in the top tax rates appears to be uncorrelated with saving, investment and productivity growth. The top tax rates appear to have little or no relation to the size of the economic pie. However, the top tax rate reductions appear to be associated with the increasing concentration of income at the top of the income distribution.”


Non-Partisan Congressional Tax Report Debunks Core Conservative Economic Theory-GOP Suppresses Study - Forbes


Barack Obama bests Bill Clinton's private sector job creation record


June marks 52 straight months of private sector job growth, the longest ever on record, beating out Bill Clinton's record of 51 continuous months of private sector job growth from February 1996 to April 2000. The economy has added more than 200,000 jobs for five months in a row now, the longest such streak since 1999. In the first half of this year alone the economy has added 1.4 million jobs, another accomplishment not seen since 1999.

Barack Obama bests Bill Clinton's private sector job creation record ? The People's View



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The average filer saw her effective tax rate drop from 22 percent in 1979 to 18.1 percent in 2010

Your taxes are really low, in one chart - The Washington Post


Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950


Excellent news!!!

And proof that the whiners are wrong when they say Bush only cut taxes for the top 1%.
 
Of course, RW hater dupes are totally clueless. After 32 years of voodoom, big business and 1%ers are doing great, small business and the nonrich get screwed. see sig. The left hasn't done anything in 5 years, still better than Pub bubbles/busts....Hater dupes are functional morons.

This is a new phenomenon here... this notion of the "non-rich".

And so- you would posit that until every human on earth is "rich" we will forever remain unequal?

You are truly fucked in the noggin, son.

Fucked in the noggin.
 
If you count ALL taxes and fees, EVERYONE pays a higher percentage to the gov't than the richest and big corporations, hater dupes. A whole new disgrace from the new bs GOP.
 
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If you count ALL taxes and fees, EVERYONE pays a higher percentage to the gov't than the richest and big corporations, hater dupes. A whole new disgrace from the new bs GOP.

That's not true at all.

Businesses pay a much higher rate on taxable income than individuals.
 
Of course, RW hater dupes are totally clueless. After 32 years of voodoom, big business and 1%ers are doing great, small business and the nonrich get screwed. see sig. The left hasn't done anything in 5 years, still better than Pub bubbles/busts....Hater dupes are functional morons.

change the channel Frankie.....
 
If you count ALL taxes and fees, EVERYONE pays a higher percentage to the gov't than the richest and big corporations, hater dupes. A whole new disgrace from the new bs GOP.

That's not true at all.

Businesses pay a much higher rate on taxable income than individuals.

Clueless. In the 50's, corporations paid about 30-35% of all taxes, now about 10%
Google that, brainwashed one. All is NOT well.
 
If you count ALL taxes and fees, EVERYONE pays a higher percentage to the gov't than the richest and big corporations, hater dupes. A whole new disgrace from the new bs GOP.

That's not true at all.

Businesses pay a much higher rate on taxable income than individuals.

Clueless. In the 50's, corporations paid about 30-35% of all taxes, now about 10%
Google that, brainwashed one. All is NOT well.

Personal income is much higher than corporate profit.

You think that's a bad thing? Maybe you should Google it? LOL!
 

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