The left is killing the economy .

Lower tax rates on individuals and corporations ,Lower energy costs through coal and natural gas ,and oil resources sitting in the ground waiting to be used. ect...... the left is against everything that would boost our economy .....WHY ??

Yeah, instead, that Obama let them build a pipeline to ship Canadian tarsand oil out of Texas! What a commie!!!
 
Lower tax rates on individuals and corporations ,Lower energy costs through coal and natural gas ,and oil resources sitting in the ground waiting to be used. ect...... the left is against everything that would boost our economy .....WHY ??

Yeah, instead, that Obama let them build a pipeline to ship Canadian tarsand oil out of Texas! What a commie!!!

Why do you need a pipeline from Canada to Texas to ship tar sand oil out of the US?
 
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I don't think you can say that one party or the other is "killing" the economy.

One can't help but notice, however, that virtually everything the Democrats say about business or free markets or capitalism or corporate taxation is anti-business. And yet they claim to be "pro-business".

Just be honest, folks, maybe that would be a good first step.

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yep, all they talk is tax the rich, wanting to make companies pay a "livable wage" , now who get to determine that? and now they are being accused of "gaming the system" by their own President...that screams they are pro-business doesn't it
I don't know if it's being done on purpose but it's having an effect as can see
 
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Me: What will it mean when the GOP with 7% takes back the Senate?

Idiot who doesn't know the US Senate seats are voted on state-wide and can't be gerrymandered: Gerrymandering worked.

Seriously? LOL!

So YOU are a dumbfuck who can't critically think? Got it

You don't think having more House GOPers helps with the Senate elections? Seriously?


It sure worked in 2012. Seriously?

Just admit it, you were wrong.

You mean when you had a crappy candidate and Obama had more show up? Think that holds true in midterms? NO reason, logic or ESPECIALLY honesty from you. I get it

When Traitorous Joe and Moderate Snow retired? When the extreme TP candidate lost Lugars seat to a Dem? Light weight Scottie Brown lost? lol
 
Lower tax rates on individuals and corporations ,Lower energy costs through coal and natural gas ,and oil resources sitting in the ground waiting to be used. ect...... the left is against everything that would boost our economy .....WHY ??

Yeah, instead, that Obama let them build a pipeline to ship Canadian tarsand oil out of Texas! What a commie!!!

Why do you need a pipeline from Canada to Texas to ship tar sand oil out of the US?


Easy

MO MONEY
 

"Just the Facts: The Administration's Unheeded Warnings About the Systemic Risk Posed by the GSEs"

WEIRD, WHY COULDN'T DUBYA GET THE GOP CONGRESS TO ACT ON HIS 'WORRY'S'?

One president controlled the regulators that not only let banks stop checking income but cheered them on. And as president Bush could enact the very policies that caused the Bush Mortgage Bubble and he did. And his party controlled congress.


Bush talked about reform. He talked and he talked. And then he stopped reform. (read that as many times as necessary. Bush stopped reform). And then he stopped it again.


The critics have forgotten that the House passed a GSE reform bill in 2005 that could well have prevented the current crisis, says Mr Oxley (R), now vice-chairman of Nasdaq.”

“What did we get from the White House? We got a one-finger salute.”

STATEMENT OF ADMINISTRATION POLICY

The Administration strongly believes that the housing GSEs should be focused on their core housing mission, particularly with respect to low-income Americans and first-time homebuyers. Instead, provisions of H.R. 1461 that expand mortgage purchasing authority would lessen the housing GSEs' commitment to low-income homebuyers.

George W. Bush: Statement of Administration Policy: H.R. 1461 - Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2005

Yes, he said he was against it because it "would lessen the housing GSEs' commitment to low-income homebuyers"


June 17, 2004

Home builders, realtors and others are preparing to fight a Bush administration plan that would require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to increase financing of homes for low-income people, a home builder group said Thursday.

Home builders fight Bush's low-income housing - Jun. 17, 2004


July 8, 2004

HUD DATA SHOWS FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC HAVE TRAILED THE INDUSTRY IN PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN 44 STATES

New regulations will increase mortgage financing for homebuyers and underserved communities

"While the GSEs met the affordable housing goals in 2002, they must further utilize their entrepreneurial talents and power in the marketplace to genuinely lead the mortgage finance industry as Congress intended," said HUD Secretary Alphonso Jackson. (THAT'S DUBYA'S GUY)


HUD Archives: HUD DATA SHOWS FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC HAVE TRAILED THE INDUSTRY IN PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN 44 STATES



Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse

http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/362889-facts-on-dubya-s-great-recession.html
he was blocked by Dems in congress .He was even called a racist by the CBC for wanting oversight on Fannie and Freddy.
 

"Just the Facts: The Administration's Unheeded Warnings About the Systemic Risk Posed by the GSEs"

WEIRD, WHY COULDN'T DUBYA GET THE GOP CONGRESS TO ACT ON HIS 'WORRY'S'?

One president controlled the regulators that not only let banks stop checking income but cheered them on. And as president Bush could enact the very policies that caused the Bush Mortgage Bubble and he did. And his party controlled congress.


Bush talked about reform. He talked and he talked. And then he stopped reform. (read that as many times as necessary. Bush stopped reform). And then he stopped it again.


The critics have forgotten that the House passed a GSE reform bill in 2005 that could well have prevented the current crisis, says Mr Oxley (R), now vice-chairman of Nasdaq.”

“What did we get from the White House? We got a one-finger salute.”

STATEMENT OF ADMINISTRATION POLICY

The Administration strongly believes that the housing GSEs should be focused on their core housing mission, particularly with respect to low-income Americans and first-time homebuyers. Instead, provisions of H.R. 1461 that expand mortgage purchasing authority would lessen the housing GSEs' commitment to low-income homebuyers.

George W. Bush: Statement of Administration Policy: H.R. 1461 - Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2005

Yes, he said he was against it because it "would lessen the housing GSEs' commitment to low-income homebuyers"


June 17, 2004

Home builders, realtors and others are preparing to fight a Bush administration plan that would require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to increase financing of homes for low-income people, a home builder group said Thursday.

Home builders fight Bush's low-income housing - Jun. 17, 2004


July 8, 2004

HUD DATA SHOWS FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC HAVE TRAILED THE INDUSTRY IN PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN 44 STATES

New regulations will increase mortgage financing for homebuyers and underserved communities

"While the GSEs met the affordable housing goals in 2002, they must further utilize their entrepreneurial talents and power in the marketplace to genuinely lead the mortgage finance industry as Congress intended," said HUD Secretary Alphonso Jackson. (THAT'S DUBYA'S GUY)


HUD Archives: HUD DATA SHOWS FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC HAVE TRAILED THE INDUSTRY IN PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN 44 STATES



Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse

http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/362889-facts-on-dubya-s-great-recession.html
he was blocked by Dems in congress .He was even called a racist by the CBC for wanting oversight on Fannie and Freddy.

yep, they were damn proud of it too
[ame=http://youtu.be/6mqSXsNJzRM]Democrats Applauding Their Own Obstructionism - YouTube[/ame]

the problem for the left they just don't want to face reality that it's the Democrats who is taking us down.
and now under Obama they are going to finish us off
 
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Yes, Dubya starved the treasury of revenues AS he went to TWO UNFUNDED wars and gave US UNFUNDED Medicare expansion.

I know. Just awful! $4.9 trillion added to the debt in 8 years.

Not quite the same as $7 trillion in less than 6 years.


Dubya first year F/Y budget begins

US DEBT Oct 1 /2001, 5,807,463,412,200.06

US DEBT Oct 1, 2009 $11,920,519,164,319.42

Not sure about conservatives 'math'



Economic Downturn and Bush Policies Continue to Drive Large Projected Deficits

10-10-12bud_rev2-28-13-f1.jpg




DUBYA'S Recession Caused Sharp Deterioration in Budget Outlook

We estimate that the (DUBYA) downturn has pushed up deficits by $2.5 trillion (including the associated interest costs) over the 2009-2018 period


Tax Cuts, War Costs Do Lasting Harm to Budget Outlook


Just two policies dating from the Bush Administration — tax cuts and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan — accounted for over $500 billion of the deficit in 2009 and will account for nearly $6 trillion in deficits in 2009 through 2019 (including associated debt-service costs of $1.4 trillion). By 2019, we estimate that these two policies will account for almost half — over $8 trillion — of the $17 trillion in debt that will be owed under current policies

Economic Downturn and Legacy of Bush Policies Continue to Drive Large Deficits ? Center on Budget and Policy Priorities


Yes, Dubya starved the treasury of revenues AS he went to TWO UNFUNDED wars and gave US UNFUNDED Medicare expansion.

The cost of the Iraq war during the Bush Administration $800 Billion. The cost of Obama's stimulus BILL $820 Billion

.... and those figures don't take into account the CONTINUED addition of more Americans having their Obamacare paid for by the Federal Government who are "too poor" to afford it. Add those figures alone and President Obama will have done more damage to the US National Debt.
 
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"Just the Facts: The Administration's Unheeded Warnings About the Systemic Risk Posed by the GSEs"

WEIRD, WHY COULDN'T DUBYA GET THE GOP CONGRESS TO ACT ON HIS 'WORRY'S'?

One president controlled the regulators that not only let banks stop checking income but cheered them on. And as president Bush could enact the very policies that caused the Bush Mortgage Bubble and he did. And his party controlled congress.


Bush talked about reform. He talked and he talked. And then he stopped reform. (read that as many times as necessary. Bush stopped reform). And then he stopped it again.


The critics have forgotten that the House passed a GSE reform bill in 2005 that could well have prevented the current crisis, says Mr Oxley (R), now vice-chairman of Nasdaq.”

“What did we get from the White House? We got a one-finger salute.”

STATEMENT OF ADMINISTRATION POLICY

The Administration strongly believes that the housing GSEs should be focused on their core housing mission, particularly with respect to low-income Americans and first-time homebuyers. Instead, provisions of H.R. 1461 that expand mortgage purchasing authority would lessen the housing GSEs' commitment to low-income homebuyers.

George W. Bush: Statement of Administration Policy: H.R. 1461 - Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2005

Yes, he said he was against it because it "would lessen the housing GSEs' commitment to low-income homebuyers"


June 17, 2004

Home builders, realtors and others are preparing to fight a Bush administration plan that would require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to increase financing of homes for low-income people, a home builder group said Thursday.

Home builders fight Bush's low-income housing - Jun. 17, 2004


July 8, 2004

HUD DATA SHOWS FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC HAVE TRAILED THE INDUSTRY IN PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN 44 STATES

New regulations will increase mortgage financing for homebuyers and underserved communities

"While the GSEs met the affordable housing goals in 2002, they must further utilize their entrepreneurial talents and power in the marketplace to genuinely lead the mortgage finance industry as Congress intended," said HUD Secretary Alphonso Jackson. (THAT'S DUBYA'S GUY)


HUD Archives: HUD DATA SHOWS FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC HAVE TRAILED THE INDUSTRY IN PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN 44 STATES



Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse

http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/362889-facts-on-dubya-s-great-recession.html
he was blocked by Dems in congress .He was even called a racist by the CBC for wanting oversight on Fannie and Freddy.


Got it, YOU are a liar who can't use reason and logic


Bush talked about reform. He talked and he talked. And then he stopped reform. (read that as many times as necessary. Bush stopped reform). And then he stopped it again.
 
"Just the Facts: The Administration's Unheeded Warnings About the Systemic Risk Posed by the GSEs"

WEIRD, WHY COULDN'T DUBYA GET THE GOP CONGRESS TO ACT ON HIS 'WORRY'S'?

One president controlled the regulators that not only let banks stop checking income but cheered them on. And as president Bush could enact the very policies that caused the Bush Mortgage Bubble and he did. And his party controlled congress.


Bush talked about reform. He talked and he talked. And then he stopped reform. (read that as many times as necessary. Bush stopped reform). And then he stopped it again.


The critics have forgotten that the House passed a GSE reform bill in 2005 that could well have prevented the current crisis, says Mr Oxley (R), now vice-chairman of Nasdaq.”

“What did we get from the White House? We got a one-finger salute.”

STATEMENT OF ADMINISTRATION POLICY

The Administration strongly believes that the housing GSEs should be focused on their core housing mission, particularly with respect to low-income Americans and first-time homebuyers. Instead, provisions of H.R. 1461 that expand mortgage purchasing authority would lessen the housing GSEs' commitment to low-income homebuyers.

George W. Bush: Statement of Administration Policy: H.R. 1461 - Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2005

Yes, he said he was against it because it "would lessen the housing GSEs' commitment to low-income homebuyers"


June 17, 2004

Home builders, realtors and others are preparing to fight a Bush administration plan that would require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to increase financing of homes for low-income people, a home builder group said Thursday.

Home builders fight Bush's low-income housing - Jun. 17, 2004


July 8, 2004

HUD DATA SHOWS FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC HAVE TRAILED THE INDUSTRY IN PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN 44 STATES

New regulations will increase mortgage financing for homebuyers and underserved communities

"While the GSEs met the affordable housing goals in 2002, they must further utilize their entrepreneurial talents and power in the marketplace to genuinely lead the mortgage finance industry as Congress intended," said HUD Secretary Alphonso Jackson. (THAT'S DUBYA'S GUY)


HUD Archives: HUD DATA SHOWS FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC HAVE TRAILED THE INDUSTRY IN PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN 44 STATES



Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse

http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/362889-facts-on-dubya-s-great-recession.html
he was blocked by Dems in congress .He was even called a racist by the CBC for wanting oversight on Fannie and Freddy.

yep, they were damn proud of it too
[ame=http://youtu.be/6mqSXsNJzRM]Democrats Applauding Their Own Obstructionism - YouTube[/ame]

the problem for the left they just don't want to face reality that it's the Democrats who is taking us down.
and now under Obama they are going to finish us off

So you are a big as moron as the other poster is. Got it

'Save' meant privatizing? lol :mad:
 
I know. Just awful! $4.9 trillion added to the debt in 8 years.

Not quite the same as $7 trillion in less than 6 years.


Dubya first year F/Y budget begins

US DEBT Oct 1 /2001, 5,807,463,412,200.06

US DEBT Oct 1, 2009 $11,920,519,164,319.42

Not sure about conservatives 'math'



Economic Downturn and Bush Policies Continue to Drive Large Projected Deficits

10-10-12bud_rev2-28-13-f1.jpg




DUBYA'S Recession Caused Sharp Deterioration in Budget Outlook

We estimate that the (DUBYA) downturn has pushed up deficits by $2.5 trillion (including the associated interest costs) over the 2009-2018 period


Tax Cuts, War Costs Do Lasting Harm to Budget Outlook


Just two policies dating from the Bush Administration — tax cuts and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan — accounted for over $500 billion of the deficit in 2009 and will account for nearly $6 trillion in deficits in 2009 through 2019 (including associated debt-service costs of $1.4 trillion). By 2019, we estimate that these two policies will account for almost half — over $8 trillion — of the $17 trillion in debt that will be owed under current policies

Economic Downturn and Legacy of Bush Policies Continue to Drive Large Deficits ? Center on Budget and Policy Priorities


Yes, Dubya starved the treasury of revenues AS he went to TWO UNFUNDED wars and gave US UNFUNDED Medicare expansion.

The cost of the Iraq war during the Bush Administration $800 Billion. The cost of Obama's stimulus BILL $820 Billion

.... and those figures don't take into account the CONTINUED addition of more Americans having their Obamacare paid for by the Federal Government who are "too poor" to afford it. Add those figures alone and President Obama will have done more damage to the US National Debt.

$860 until Jan 2009, think the costs ended the day Dubya left office? MOST estimate put long term costs over $4 trillion

War Costs to Date

Total War Funding: To date, $1.57 trillion has been allocated to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, including $92.3 billion in fiscal year 2014.

https://www.nationalpriorities.org/cost-of/notes-sources/

Obama stimulus that stopped US from going into GOP great depression 2.0 and was 40% tax cuts?


CBO- DUBYA TAX CUTS COST US TREASURY NEARLY 1/3RD . OF DEFICTS 2001-2010.
 
I know. Just awful! $4.9 trillion added to the debt in 8 years.

Not quite the same as $7 trillion in less than 6 years.


Dubya first year F/Y budget begins

US DEBT Oct 1 /2001, 5,807,463,412,200.06

US DEBT Oct 1, 2009 $11,920,519,164,319.42

Not sure about conservatives 'math'



Economic Downturn and Bush Policies Continue to Drive Large Projected Deficits

10-10-12bud_rev2-28-13-f1.jpg




DUBYA'S Recession Caused Sharp Deterioration in Budget Outlook

We estimate that the (DUBYA) downturn has pushed up deficits by $2.5 trillion (including the associated interest costs) over the 2009-2018 period


Tax Cuts, War Costs Do Lasting Harm to Budget Outlook


Just two policies dating from the Bush Administration — tax cuts and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan — accounted for over $500 billion of the deficit in 2009 and will account for nearly $6 trillion in deficits in 2009 through 2019 (including associated debt-service costs of $1.4 trillion). By 2019, we estimate that these two policies will account for almost half — over $8 trillion — of the $17 trillion in debt that will be owed under current policies

Economic Downturn and Legacy of Bush Policies Continue to Drive Large Deficits ? Center on Budget and Policy Priorities


Yes, Dubya starved the treasury of revenues AS he went to TWO UNFUNDED wars and gave US UNFUNDED Medicare expansion.

The cost of the Iraq war during the Bush Administration $800 Billion. The cost of Obama's stimulus BILL $820 Billion

.... and those figures don't take into account the CONTINUED addition of more Americans having their Obamacare paid for by the Federal Government who are "too poor" to afford it. Add those figures alone and President Obama will have done more damage to the US National Debt.

"and those figures don't take into account the CONTINUED addition of more Americans having their Obamacare paid for by the Federal Government who are "too poor" to afford it. Add those figures alone and President Obama will have done more damage to the US National Debt."

YOU MEAN THE OBAMACARES THAT WAS 100% FUNDED UNLIKE THE MEDICARE EXPANSION DUBYA/GOP GAVE US THAT COSTS AS MUCH THIS DECADE AS THE FUNDED OBAMACARES, YOU KNOW THAT UNFUNDED MEDICARE EXPANSION THAT ACTUALLY ADDS TO THE DEBT? lol
 
Lower tax rates on individuals and corporations ,Lower energy costs through coal and natural gas ,and oil resources sitting in the ground waiting to be used. ect...... the left is against everything that would boost our economy .....WHY ??

Hilarious right wingers STILL don't understand how the oil thing works. You would think after having it explained many, many times, it would somehow "stick". It's the determined ignorance. A terrible thing to suffer from. Only the ignorant don't know they are ignorant.

Oil companies hold back the oil so the prices don't decrease. They pay for the right to drill, but that doesn't mean they can't control the price. Why don't you clowns GET IT? Why is that so hard to understand? The oil found here goes on the global market. We have to bid for it the same way everyone else does. That's the nature of capitalism. Stop the stupid right wingers. Drill baby drill doesn't mean a thing.
 
Lower tax rates on individuals and corporations ,Lower energy costs through coal and natural gas ,and oil resources sitting in the ground waiting to be used. ect...... the left is against everything that would boost our economy .....WHY ??

Yeah, instead, that Obama let them build a pipeline to ship Canadian tarsand oil out of Texas! What a commie!!!

Why do you need a pipeline from Canada to Texas to ship tar sand oil out of the US?

Just pointing out what a strawman this "left" bashing is. What left?
 

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