The mess that presently exists in science

[1srelluc]

The mess that presently exists in science – Behind The Black – Robert Zimmerman

Two stories today in the peer-review journal Science illustrate bluntly the dry rot that has seeped into the entire peer-review scientific community, much of it caused by the politics and incompetence that always follows when too much government money is available to hand out.


The problem with science, is that it has the same ratio of conmen, grifters, deviants, liars, and sociopaths that the general population has.

Sigh, science isn't a thing, it's a process.

Low IQ people/politicians (not that there is any difference) have linguistically turned it into a physical object like they did with "education".

Education doesn't make a bad person or one without common sense good. It just makes them educated.

 

[pknopp]

Politics ruin everything.

 

[martybegan]

The mess that presently exists in science – Behind The Black – Robert Zimmerman

Two stories today in the peer-review journal Science illustrate bluntly the dry rot that has seeped into the entire peer-review scientific community, much of it caused by the politics and incompetence that always follows when too much government money is available to hand out.
The problem with science, is that it has the same ratio of conmen, grifters, deviants, liars, and sociopaths that the general population has.

Sigh, science isn't a thing, it's a process.

Low IQ people/politicians (not that there is any difference) have linguistically turned it into a physical object like they did with "education".

Education doesn't make a bad person or one without common sense good. It just makes them educated.

The problem is when advocacy trumps (lol) science.

 

[Votto]

Politics ruin everything.

But people are political.

The mainstream scientific community has really harmed itself of late, with the Covid debacle, insisting they no longer know what a woman is, and pushing climate change with reckless abandon.

They have about as much credibility now as the media

Well done democrats. You have ruined both the media and science.

 

[pknopp]

But people are political.

The mainstream scientific community has really harmed itself of late, with the Covid debacle, insisting they no longer know what a woman is, and pushing climate change with reckless abandon.

I don't recall science ever stating they don't know what a woman is.

Do you have a quote?

They have about as much credibility now as the media

Well done democrats. You have ruined both the media and science.

Pushing false narratives doesn't do that?

 

[1srelluc]

I don't recall science ever stating they don't know what a woman is.

I think that goes back to treating science as an object.....You know, like that vapid SCOTUS DEI hire did.

 

[pknopp]

I think that goes back to treating science as an object.....You know, like that vapid SCOTUS DEI hire did.

But I asked how it applies to science?

 

[1srelluc]

But I asked how it applies to science?

I'm not a Biologist.

 

[pknopp]

I'm not a Biologist.

Right, so it has nothing to do with what you said.

 

[EMH]

Government should collect data. It should not fund "studies."

The Co2 FRAUD is all about government censoring and fudging data, and funding "studies" by treasonous liars. And Abigail Spanberger is 100% for the Co2 FRAUD and every other fraud caused by government "doing more" than just collecting data.

 

[BlindBoo]

I think that goes back to treating science as an object.....You know, like that vapid SCOTUS DEI hire did.

Isn't that semantics not science? Does that judge claim to be a scientist?

 

[pknopp]

Isn't that semantics not science? Does that judge claim to be a scientist?

You find something a person you don't like said and then you paint everything you don't like with it.

 

[evenflow1969]

The mess that presently exists in science – Behind The Black – Robert Zimmerman

Two stories today in the peer-review journal Science illustrate bluntly the dry rot that has seeped into the entire peer-review scientific community, much of it caused by the politics and incompetence that always follows when too much government money is available to hand out.


The problem with science, is that it has the same ratio of conmen, grifters, deviants, liars, and sociopaths that the general population has.

Sigh, science isn't a thing, it's a process.

Low IQ people/politicians (not that there is any difference) have linguistically turned it into a physical object like they did with "education".

Education doesn't make a bad person or one without common sense good. It just makes them educated.

Well not sure this was Mal intent. The imaging used at the time was relatively new. It showed what it showed. Takes alot of views by alot of people over a period of time to decide what is normal and what is not. This problem is compounded as the imaging became more advanced and became more detailed. The we again need a lot of views by alot of people of alot of people to figure out what is normal. Can these sort of issues lead down a l9ng path in the wrong direction. Absolutely. I use to fish lake Erie with out a fish finder. We would keep logs of water temperatures, lat and long, and other data as well as what we brought up to try and find fish. Then the fish finder came out. This gave us a little peek into what was going on down there. We made educated decisions on what we were seeing. Well as time went on the fish finder developed into a better product and each time what we saw on screen changed. It took many hours of viewing these screens and bring up fish to start to understand what we ate looking at. Yes. We were wrong in our early conclusions many many times. Every time a new development came we would have to relearn what that screen was telling us. Now we have live scope. Crazy advanced from what I started with. In clear water you can see a 3d representation of what is going on. New better tool giving a much better indicator of reality on the ground. Yes previous conclusion many times were wrong. Better imaging leads to better results, leads to less wrong paths. They were working with the best information at the time. This is just how things are.