The Official Discussion Thread for who is considered indiginous to Palestine?

[gt1085]

No that incorrect,Sir, khazarians have no ties to the true Jews at all, they are only khazrs.

TRUE as they are a figment of your imagination based on your brainwashing over the years. You claim that the 12 million Jews in existence all come from the same 4 women some time in the middle ages. WOW they must have been very fertile ?

Thank You but you can`t put words in this mouth.See that ya`ll problem you know to much and dont know shit.You and yur people are delusional,Really.

Well you dumb ass as shit and you don`t have`nt reseached either just hear say .I Back All I Say,Documents,Writing in the on the wall.you have not gotten a clue.




I know more than you ever will, which is why I call you a LIAR as soon as you bring up khazars. A fictitious people to fill a void in the islamonazi propaganda history of the Jews. Ranked alongside the protocols as the biggest LIE in history, peddled by Jew haters, neo Nazi's and white supremacists.


You don't even know who my people are so you cant say that can you

Like i said you are Delusional it okay most of you are deceived.

You are the one who is delusional as you make sweeping claims and cant even support them in any way or form. We have destroyed most of your arguments in the past when other brainwashed idiots have presented them as facts. And in the end could only say " Because I say so" when asked for proof

 

[gt1085]

It only one people who are racist that is caucasians.C`mon everyone on the planet knows this.lol,except you.haha.

Strange that as the blacks are the second most racist after the arab muslims. And only RACIST's like yourself cant see this.

Because white are the biggest racist their is.

Not according to the evidence available, and just look at the US since civil rights became the thing, more black on white racism that there was ever white on black. Same with South Africa, Rhodesia, Uganda and most muslim nations.

Speaking on racism caucasians cannot be beat with all the people on the planet.You know better than i should hope so.Every where you go have gone you take your racism with you.Fact.

Racism is endemic in all races and cultures as mankind always has to be the best. Now telling the truth is seen as racism when it tells the truth about a group. For example saying that muslims are semi literate evil mass murderers is not racist as it is based on proven evidence.

In Your Statement here Remove Muslims.Put In christian, that Belong There.evil mass murderers , racist,rapist, as it is based on proven evidence.

 

[gt1085]

those there now are jew-ish fake Jew,Those scums there are khazarians,Which again is not a people.

Nope just the first time it slaps you in the face.Like I Said I Prove All I say.





Because they never existed and are based around an epic poem and a novel. No evidence of their existence prior to the mid 20C in any books what so ever.


A made up story jumped on by islamonazi's because they have nothing else to support their claims.

khazarians,do exist whether you no it or not does`nt matter,And christian have nothing at all to support their claim.

Then produce the evidence, be the first to provide a link to a mention of khazars prior to the mid 20C when they were invented along with the elders of zion. Not one person who has relied on the khazar fantasy has been able to produce the evidence of their actual existence other than very recent inclusions in scientific theories. One of which claims that the Jews of today are all descended from just 4 Turkish females.

And what claim do Christians make that cant be supported ?

Im not getting back to a dead discussion about khazars yes they exist to this day.The Turkish had nothing to do with Jews.the real Jews.

Then provide the historical data to support your claims, if you do you will be the first person ever to do so.

Now what claims do Christians make that cant be supported again ?

 

[Phoenall]

Strange that as the blacks are the second most racist after the arab muslims. And only RACIST's like yourself cant see this.

Because white are the biggest racist their is.

Not according to the evidence available, and just look at the US since civil rights became the thing, more black on white racism that there was ever white on black. Same with South Africa, Rhodesia, Uganda and most muslim nations.

Speaking on racism caucasians cannot be beat with all the people on the planet.You know better than i should hope so.Every where you go have gone you take your racism with you.Fact.

Racism is endemic in all races and cultures as mankind always has to be the best. Now telling the truth is seen as racism when it tells the truth about a group. For example saying that muslims are semi literate evil mass murderers is not racist as it is based on proven evidence.

In Your Statement here Remove Muslims.Put In christian, that Belong There.evil mass murderers , racist,rapist, as it is based on proven evidence.

No as it would be racism based on LIES. The evidence shows that muslims have always been semu literate evil mass murderers with a tally close to 50 million murdered innocent in the last century +/- 15 years

 

[gt1085]

Because white are the biggest racist their is.

Not according to the evidence available, and just look at the US since civil rights became the thing, more black on white racism that there was ever white on black. Same with South Africa, Rhodesia, Uganda and most muslim nations.

Speaking on racism caucasians cannot be beat with all the people on the planet.You know better than i should hope so.Every where you go have gone you take your racism with you.Fact.

Racism is endemic in all races and cultures as mankind always has to be the best. Now telling the truth is seen as racism when it tells the truth about a group. For example saying that muslims are semi literate evil mass murderers is not racist as it is based on proven evidence.

In Your Statement here Remove Muslims.Put In christian, that Belong There.evil mass murderers , racist,rapist, as it is based on proven evidence.

No as it would be racism based on LIES. The evidence shows that muslims have always been semu literate evil mass murderers with a tally close to 50 million murdered innocent in the last century +/- 15 years

No,That`s a lie.christians have killed 100 Million,which is 1 Billion murdered innocent people,No worries That Record Will Not Be Beat By Anyone.Point Blank.Sorry.

 

[gt1085]

Because white are the biggest racist their is.

Not according to the evidence available, and just look at the US since civil rights became the thing, more black on white racism that there was ever white on black. Same with South Africa, Rhodesia, Uganda and most muslim nations.

Speaking on racism caucasians cannot be beat with all the people on the planet.You know better than i should hope so.Every where you go have gone you take your racism with you.Fact.

Racism is endemic in all races and cultures as mankind always has to be the best. Now telling the truth is seen as racism when it tells the truth about a group. For example saying that muslims are semi literate evil mass murderers is not racist as it is based on proven evidence.

In Your Statement here Remove Muslims.Put In christian, that Belong There.evil mass murderers , racist,rapist, as it is based on proven evidence.

No as it would be racism based on LIES. The evidence shows that muslims have always been semu literate evil mass murderers with a tally close to 50 million murdered innocent in the last century +/- 15 years

Sorry,But Facts or Facts,Over 400 yrs Caucasians have killed more than a Billion people.Facts.

 

[Challenger]

Not the ones out of Europe.

But you seem to fail to grasp the concept that you are supporting here, and, worse, failing to apply it universally. You are, in effect, saying that if an invading and colonizing force successfully expels or displaces part of a people then that part of the people are excluded from rights to return, to self-determine and to be considered part of the same group which avoided expulsion.

And that puts some of your other arguments in serious jeopardy.

European adhereants to Judaism were not expelled. This is a myth. There were Judeans living throughout the Roman Empire, either as individuals or in groups; some of these Judeans may well have practiced Monotheism. if anything Judaism in Judea itself was all but exterminated by the Romans as Josephus mentions most of the Jewish (religious) population of Judea had come to Jerusalem for a festival when the Romans besieged the city. The inhabitants either starved, were slaughtered or sold off as slaves when the city fell. Whatever recovery the Jewish (religious) population might have made was snuffed out after the Bar Kokhba revolt when the Romans went on a systematic campaign of extermination in Judea. Those who survived were non-Jewish Judeans; Judaism only survived as a religious cult because so many Judeans lived outside Judea and obtained converts from North africa and Europe.

 

[Challenger]

Not the ones out of Europe.

But you seem to fail to grasp the concept that you are supporting here, and, worse, failing to apply it universally. You are, in effect, saying that if an invading and colonizing force successfully expels or displaces part of a people then that part of the people are excluded from rights to return, to self-determine and to be considered part of the same group which avoided expulsion.

And that puts some of your other arguments in serious jeopardy.

Especially if the allegedly expelled part of the people have little or no familial connection to the said expelled part of the people. Converting to a religion does not change one's DNA.

DNA is NOT the basis for being indigenous. Culture is. Invading and colonizing cultures are specifically excluded from the definition of indigenous.

Which "culture" is that? Sehpardic? Yiddish?

 

[gt1085]

Not the ones out of Europe.

But you seem to fail to grasp the concept that you are supporting here, and, worse, failing to apply it universally. You are, in effect, saying that if an invading and colonizing force successfully expels or displaces part of a people then that part of the people are excluded from rights to return, to self-determine and to be considered part of the same group which avoided expulsion.

And that puts some of your other arguments in serious jeopardy.

European adhereants to Judaism were not expelled. This is a myth. There were Judeans living throughout the Roman Empire, either as individuals or in groups; some of these Judeans may well have practiced Monotheism. if anything Judaism in Judea itself was all but exterminated by the Romans as Josephus mentions most of the Jewish (religious) population of Judea had come to Jerusalem for a festival when the Romans besieged the city. The inhabitants either starved, were slaughtered or sold off as slaves when the city fell. Whatever recovery the Jewish (religious) population might have made was snuffed out after the Bar Kokhba revolt when the Romans went on a systematic campaign of extermination in Judea. Those who survived were non-Jewish Judeans; Judaism only survived as a religious cult because so many Judeans lived outside Judea and obtained converts from North africa and Europe.

That is`nt true all were not exterminated,As for as rome goes they are black as in Moors,and Europe belong the true Eurpeaans which are dark skin as in Moors.

 

[gt1085]

Not the ones out of Europe.

But you seem to fail to grasp the concept that you are supporting here, and, worse, failing to apply it universally. You are, in effect, saying that if an invading and colonizing force successfully expels or displaces part of a people then that part of the people are excluded from rights to return, to self-determine and to be considered part of the same group which avoided expulsion.

And that puts some of your other arguments in serious jeopardy.

Especially if the allegedly expelled part of the people have little or no familial connection to the said expelled part of the people. Converting to a religion does not change one's DNA.

DNA is NOT the basis for being indigenous. Culture is. Invading and colonizing cultures are specifically excluded from the definition of indigenous.

Which "culture" is that? Sehpardic? Yiddish?

If that is your answer.

 

[Shusha]

Not the ones out of Europe.

But you seem to fail to grasp the concept that you are supporting here, and, worse, failing to apply it universally. You are, in effect, saying that if an invading and colonizing force successfully expels or displaces part of a people then that part of the people are excluded from rights to return, to self-determine and to be considered part of the same group which avoided expulsion.

And that puts some of your other arguments in serious jeopardy.

European adhereants to Judaism were not expelled. This is a myth. There were Judeans living throughout the Roman Empire, either as individuals or in groups; some of these Judeans may well have practiced Monotheism. if anything Judaism in Judea itself was all but exterminated by the Romans as Josephus mentions most of the Jewish (religious) population of Judea had come to Jerusalem for a festival when the Romans besieged the city. The inhabitants either starved, were slaughtered or sold off as slaves when the city fell. Whatever recovery the Jewish (religious) population might have made was snuffed out after the Bar Kokhba revolt when the Romans went on a systematic campaign of extermination in Judea. Those who survived were non-Jewish Judeans; Judaism only survived as a religious cult because so many Judeans lived outside Judea and obtained converts from North africa and Europe.

I'm not sure what your point is as it relates to the question of indigeneity.

That the Jewish people were largely destroyed in Roman times, rather than expelled or displaced? So that means, what? That montelatici is wrong that the Palestinians (modern day, common usage) are descendants of the Jewish people, since the Jewish people in Israel/Judea/Samaria/Jerusalem were destroyed? That the only surviving Jewish people are those who are descended from the people living in the Diasopora? Doesn't that support my premise, rather than argue against it?

 

[gt1085]

Not the ones out of Europe.

But you seem to fail to grasp the concept that you are supporting here, and, worse, failing to apply it universally. You are, in effect, saying that if an invading and colonizing force successfully expels or displaces part of a people then that part of the people are excluded from rights to return, to self-determine and to be considered part of the same group which avoided expulsion.

And that puts some of your other arguments in serious jeopardy.

European adhereants to Judaism were not expelled. This is a myth. There were Judeans living throughout the Roman Empire, either as individuals or in groups; some of these Judeans may well have practiced Monotheism. if anything Judaism in Judea itself was all but exterminated by the Romans as Josephus mentions most of the Jewish (religious) population of Judea had come to Jerusalem for a festival when the Romans besieged the city. The inhabitants either starved, were slaughtered or sold off as slaves when the city fell. Whatever recovery the Jewish (religious) population might have made was snuffed out after the Bar Kokhba revolt when the Romans went on a systematic campaign of extermination in Judea. Those who survived were non-Jewish Judeans; Judaism only survived as a religious cult because so many Judeans lived outside Judea and obtained converts from North africa and Europe.

I'm not sure what your point is as it relates to the question of indigeneity.

That the Jewish people were largely destroyed in Roman times, rather than expelled or displaced? So that means, what? That montelatici is wrong that the Palestinians (modern day, common usage) are descendants of the Jewish people, since the Jewish people in Israel/Judea/Samaria/Jerusalem were destroyed? That the only surviving Jewish people are those who are descended from the people living in the Diasopora? Doesn't that support my premise, rather than argue against it?

Again they killed some,Jews still exist today.So we drop it,You cannot understand what obviously what is truth.It good to research instead of speaking on impulse.

 

[Shusha]

Jews still exist today.

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

Did you actually have anything to contribute to this thread, or shall I ignore you like an excited puppy who suddenly realized that the world exists beyond its mother's teat?

 

[gt1085]

Jews still exist today.

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

Did you actually have anything to contribute to this thread, or shall I ignore you like an excited puppy who suddenly realized that the world exists beyond its mother's teat?

Lol, well, that can be said for both of us.You should know far to well about being a pup you were one obviously.

 

[gt1085]

Jews still exist today.

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

Did you actually have anything to contribute to this thread, or shall I ignore you like an excited puppy who suddenly realized that the world exists beyond its mother's teat?

True Palestinian....

 

[gt1085]

Jews still exist today.

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

Did you actually have anything to contribute to this thread, or shall I ignore you like an excited puppy who suddenly realized that the world exists beyond its mother's teat?

Lol, well, that can be said for both of us.You should know far to well about being a pup you were one obviously.

Fake Palestinian...

 

[gt1085]

Jews still exist today.

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

Did you actually have anything to contribute to this thread, or shall I ignore you like an excited puppy who suddenly realized that the world exists beyond its mother's teat?

Like said said you should study first.

 

[Challenger]

Not the ones out of Europe.

But you seem to fail to grasp the concept that you are supporting here, and, worse, failing to apply it universally. You are, in effect, saying that if an invading and colonizing force successfully expels or displaces part of a people then that part of the people are excluded from rights to return, to self-determine and to be considered part of the same group which avoided expulsion.

And that puts some of your other arguments in serious jeopardy.

European adhereants to Judaism were not expelled. This is a myth. There were Judeans living throughout the Roman Empire, either as individuals or in groups; some of these Judeans may well have practiced Monotheism. if anything Judaism in Judea itself was all but exterminated by the Romans as Josephus mentions most of the Jewish (religious) population of Judea had come to Jerusalem for a festival when the Romans besieged the city. The inhabitants either starved, were slaughtered or sold off as slaves when the city fell. Whatever recovery the Jewish (religious) population might have made was snuffed out after the Bar Kokhba revolt when the Romans went on a systematic campaign of extermination in Judea. Those who survived were non-Jewish Judeans; Judaism only survived as a religious cult because so many Judeans lived outside Judea and obtained converts from North africa and Europe.

I'm not sure what your point is as it relates to the question of indigeneity.

That the Jewish people were largely destroyed in Roman times, rather than expelled or displaced? So that means, what? That montelatici is wrong that the Palestinians (modern day, common usage) are descendants of the Jewish people, since the Jewish people in Israel/Judea/Samaria/Jerusalem were destroyed? That the only surviving Jewish people are those who are descended from the people living in the Diasopora? Doesn't that support my premise, rather than argue against it?

• "Judeans" (and others) were indigenous to "Judea."
• Some Judeans followed the monotheistic cult we now call Judaism.
• Those Judeans that rebelled against Rome (who followed Judaism) were by and large wiped out according to the historians Flavius Josephus and Cassius Dio (supported in part by later Midrashic literature).
• The remaining surviving non-Jewish (and a few Jewish survivors), Judeans in Judea/Palestina carried on and eventually converted first to Christianity and then eventually Islam.
• There were also Judean expatriates living throughout the Roman and Persian empires, some of whom practiced Judaism and some of whom proselytised widely. Judaism competed fiercely for converts with Christianity until Constantine was converted and made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire.
• Subsequent Christian persecution of the followers of Judaism drastically reduced the numbers of followers either by re-conversion or flight elsewhere (the Persian Empire took in many Jewish fugitives, regardless of where they came from). What remained were the religious "die hard" fanatics who eventually formed isolated communities across the Empire and beyond. By then, the only connection they had with Judea/Palestina was their religion.
• In the mid 19th century Europe was convulsed by the emergence of "nationalism" after the Napoleonic wars and while western European nations by and large sucessfully assimilated their Jewish religionists, in eastern Europe, there was much less tolerance of non-Christians. This phenomenon led to the invention of "the Jewish people" as an "ethnicity" that originated from Palestine; the political irridentist ideology called Zionism. Zionists invented "the Jewish people" and the "land of Israel". Any connection between modern Jewish Europeans and the so called children of Israel is, at the very best, tenuous compared with the connection of the indigenous inhabitants of Palestine they dispossessed by force.

 

[Phoenall]

Not according to the evidence available, and just look at the US since civil rights became the thing, more black on white racism that there was ever white on black. Same with South Africa, Rhodesia, Uganda and most muslim nations.

Speaking on racism caucasians cannot be beat with all the people on the planet.You know better than i should hope so.Every where you go have gone you take your racism with you.Fact.

Racism is endemic in all races and cultures as mankind always has to be the best. Now telling the truth is seen as racism when it tells the truth about a group. For example saying that muslims are semi literate evil mass murderers is not racist as it is based on proven evidence.

In Your Statement here Remove Muslims.Put In christian, that Belong There.evil mass murderers , racist,rapist, as it is based on proven evidence.

No as it would be racism based on LIES. The evidence shows that muslims have always been semu literate evil mass murderers with a tally close to 50 million murdered innocent in the last century +/- 15 years

No,That`s a lie.christians have killed 100 Million,which is 1 Billion murdered innocent people,No worries That Record Will Not Be Beat By Anyone.Point Blank.Sorry.

Maybe over the last 10 millennia. but in recorded history of the last 100 years the list of murderers starts with the muslims, then the communists/Marxists, the Africans, the Catholics and finally the rest of humanity

 

[Phoenall]

Not according to the evidence available, and just look at the US since civil rights became the thing, more black on white racism that there was ever white on black. Same with South Africa, Rhodesia, Uganda and most muslim nations.

Speaking on racism caucasians cannot be beat with all the people on the planet.You know better than i should hope so.Every where you go have gone you take your racism with you.Fact.

Racism is endemic in all races and cultures as mankind always has to be the best. Now telling the truth is seen as racism when it tells the truth about a group. For example saying that muslims are semi literate evil mass murderers is not racist as it is based on proven evidence.

In Your Statement here Remove Muslims.Put In christian, that Belong There.evil mass murderers , racist,rapist, as it is based on proven evidence.

No as it would be racism based on LIES. The evidence shows that muslims have always been semu literate evil mass murderers with a tally close to 50 million murdered innocent in the last century +/- 15 years

Sorry,But Facts or Facts,Over 400 yrs Caucasians have killed more than a Billion people.Facts.

EVIDENCE as your word alone is not good enough