The Official Zimmerman Trial Verdict Thread

[dilloduck]

Granny says dey's persecutin' poor ol' George...

FBI Requests Police Not Return Zimmerman's Gun
July 19, 2013 > The FBI has asked authorities in Sanford, Fla. to not give George Zimmerman back his gun after he was cleared of all charges in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, a Department of Justice official tells Fox News.

The report may serve as further confirmation the Justice Department is taking seriously its investigation into whether or not to pursue a federal civil rights case against Zimmerman, after Attorney General Eric Holder said in an address Tuesday to the NAACP that his department would "consider all available information" before deciding whether to move forward. The Sanford Police Department told the Orlando Sentinel Thursday that evidence released earlier this week to the agency has been placed "in a hold status," pending the Justice Department investigation. The items include all the evidence collected by the agency in its investigation of the fatal shooting, such as Zimmerman's gun, Martin's clothes, cell phone, the bag of Skittles and beverage found in his pockets, the newspaper reported. Amid pressure from the NAACP and several Democratic lawmakers to pursue Zimmerman, the department expanded its probe Wednesday by setting up a public email address asking for any tips or information regarding the case.

The department also held a conference call with civil rights leaders on Monday. The conference call included DOJ officials, along with representatives from the FBI and federal prosecutors. They spoke to civil rights leaders from Sanford, Fla., as well as others from around the country. The call was convened by Tom Perez, assistant attorney general for the Civil Rights Division. A Justice official told Fox News that both the conference call and the email address asking for tips and information are fairly standard procedure when dealing with a high-profile investigation such as this one. The department has used such tip lines in the past, including in a probe last year of the Albuquerque, N.M., police department. Some attorneys and analysts have cautioned that Holder would have a difficult time bringing a civil rights case against Zimmerman, particularly since the investigation so far is thought to have turned up no evidence or claims that Zimmerman exhibited racial bias.

Zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder and manslaughter charges in the shooting death of Martin who was unarmed. His attorneys argued that he shot Martin in self-defense, but the case sparked an outcry because Martin was black and Zimmerman identifies himself as Hispanic. Meanwhile Thursday, protesters who set up camp in the state Capitol building earlier this week finally got to meet with Gov. Rick Scott and urged him to push for the repeal of Florida's "state your ground" law and to take steps to combat racial profiling. In a conference room near his office suite, Scott met for nearly an hour with seven leaders of the protest, which began Tuesday. They described their frustration about last weekend's acquittal of George Zimmerman in the death of Trayvon Martin and their own experiences of being racially profiled.

Saying the 17-year-old's death happened on Scott's watch, the protesters renewed their request that the Republican governor call state legislators into special session to repeal the law which justifies the use of deadly force when a person's life is in danger. "There has to be a comprehensive approach to make sure every child in Florida can feel safe again," Gabriel Pendas told the governor. Scott, who said he had spoken earlier in the evening with Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, instead said he would call for a day of prayer on Sunday for "unity." He also urged the protesters to talk to local legislators if they wanted to change state law and offer them examples of why they believe it may lead to more violence. "If you believe stand your ground should be repealed tell them why," Scott said.

FBI requests Florida police not return gun to Zimmerman | Fox News

the protesters renewed their request that the Republican governor call state legislators into special session to repeal the law which justifies the use of deadly force when a person's life is in danger

How much clearer does it get. They want to be able to kill you with ease.

Being able to assault someone is going to become an entitlement.

 

[Katzndogz]

Certainly there are quite a few people who want self defense laws repealed. England repealed all self defense laws.

Bookworm Room » Britain outlaws a homeowner?s self-defense against intruders

It got so bad, that the British are starting to reinstate the self defense laws they overturned after two years.

NRA-ILA | UK Judges Revive Right to Self-Defense

Further vindication came September 26, when the wounded home invaders pleaded guilty to burglary and were sentenced to four years in prison. Presiding over the case was Judge Michael Pert QC, who rejected attempts by O'Gorman's attorney to obtain leniency for his client by citing O'Gorman's "near-death experience." Judge Pert remarked, "If you burgle a house in the country where the householder owns a legally held shotgun, that is the chance you take. You cannot come to court and ask for a lighter sentence because of it," adding, "Some might argue that being arrested and locked up for 40 hours is a trauma."

American liberals just think that they can repeal self defense laws and make it work.

 

[velvtacheeze]

If 30 year-old community college student George Zimmerman didn't have a gun, he wouldn't have had the guts to get out of his car to roly-poly his way through the neighborhood after the "f______ punks" that dare walk by him without him recognizing them. Who do they think they are, these "a__holes", who "get away" from George Zimmerman, self-appointed American hero?

I don't want to confuse you with the actual facts, but Zimmerman got out of the car because he lost sight of him in the rain. He got out to see where he was, not to confront him. Then he was attacked and thrown to the ground and had his head pounded into the ground. The only witness saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman. But you go on believing whatever fairytale helps you sleep at night.

He didn't need to get out of the car. He didn't need to call the police. That's the point that critics of Zimmerman are trying to make. The right looks at this case and sees nothing wrong with the call to the cops at all, the left sees it as the first among many stupid, racist decisions by dumb-butt Zimmerman, self-appointed, real American hero.

Dear stupid Conservatives, black kids walking down your street are not worthy of a call to the police. And to expect deference from them when confronted by you is an absurd expectation. They will stand their ground against you.

 

[Smilebong]

There is no one in the world who sees things the same as another. Look no further than your spouse. A white man will never se the world the same way a black man does...and vice versa. I would say that day is 100/1000 generations down the pike.

"We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."

I was brought up to be color-blind. It would behoove the board if all posters also had been.

Charles Barkley sets a good example with this commonsense statement:

"I just feel bad because I don't like when race gets out in the media because I don't think the media has a pure heart, as I call it. There are very few people have a pure heart when it comes to race. Racism is wrong in any, shape, form -- a lot of black people are racist too. I think sometimes when people talk about racism, they say only white people are racist. There are a lot of black people who are racist. I don't like when it gets out there in the media because I don't think the media has clean hands."

Charles Barkley On Zimmerman Trial: "I Agree With The Verdict" | RealClearPolitics

For a guy who sounds like a Doofus sometimes as a commentator on sports, he is pretty level headed.

 

[Katzndogz]

Please, If GZ didn't have an equalizer he'd have kept his "not being able to throw a punch" ass in his car.

Complete assumption.. as neighborhood watches do observe, follow, etc even without guns

Was he an official Neighborhood Watch, or just a vigilante?

At the time of the shooting, he was a man on the way to the store.

 

[velvtacheeze]

Zimmerman was guilty of manslaughter. The idiot ladies of the jury made a mistake. A bunch of racist middle aged old bags who think Zimmerman was the victim because he was the non-black.

 

[Katzndogz]

If 30 year-old community college student George Zimmerman didn't have a gun, he wouldn't have had the guts to get out of his car to roly-poly his way through the neighborhood after the "f______ punks" that dare walk by him without him recognizing them. Who do they think they are, these "a__holes", who "get away" from George Zimmerman, self-appointed American hero?

I don't want to confuse you with the actual facts, but Zimmerman got out of the car because he lost sight of him in the rain. He got out to see where he was, not to confront him. Then he was attacked and thrown to the ground and had his head pounded into the ground. The only witness saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman. But you go on believing whatever fairytale helps you sleep at night.

He didn't need to get out of the car. He didn't need to call the police. That's the point that critics of Zimmerman are trying to make. The right looks at this case and sees nothing wrong with the call to the cops at all, the left sees it as the first among many stupid, racist decisions by dumb-butt Zimmerman, self-appointed, real American hero.

Dear stupid Conservatives, black kids walking down your street are not worthy of a call to the police. And to expect deference from them when confronted by you is an absurd expectation. They will stand their ground against you.

Trayvon Martin didn't need to attack him either. That's what led to his death.

 

[dilloduck]

Zimmerman was guilty of manslaughter. The idiot ladies of the jury made a mistake. A bunch of racist middle aged old bags who think Zimmerman was the victim because he was the non-black.

We just need to kill all the racists. It's so simple---I don't understand why people can't grasp it !

 

[Sallow]

If 30 year-old community college student George Zimmerman didn't have a gun, he wouldn't have had the guts to get out of his car to roly-poly his way through the neighborhood after the "f______ punks" that dare walk by him without him recognizing them. Who do they think they are, these "a__holes", who "get away" from George Zimmerman, self-appointed American hero?

I don't want to confuse you with the actual facts, but Zimmerman got out of the car because he lost sight of him in the rain. He got out to see where he was, not to confront him. Then he was attacked and thrown to the ground and had his head pounded into the ground. The only witness saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman. But you go on believing whatever fairytale helps you sleep at night.

He didn't need to get out of the car. He didn't need to call the police. That's the point that critics of Zimmerman are trying to make. The right looks at this case and sees nothing wrong with the call to the cops at all, the left sees it as the first among many stupid, racist decisions by dumb-butt Zimmerman, self-appointed, real American hero.

Dear stupid Conservatives, black kids walking down your street are not worthy of a call to the police. And to expect deference from them when confronted by you is an absurd expectation. They will stand their ground against you.

Absolutely.

But the call really should have been the beginning and end to it.

That was bad enough.

 

[Sallow]

I don't want to confuse you with the actual facts, but Zimmerman got out of the car because he lost sight of him in the rain. He got out to see where he was, not to confront him. Then he was attacked and thrown to the ground and had his head pounded into the ground. The only witness saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman. But you go on believing whatever fairytale helps you sleep at night.

He didn't need to get out of the car. He didn't need to call the police. That's the point that critics of Zimmerman are trying to make. The right looks at this case and sees nothing wrong with the call to the cops at all, the left sees it as the first among many stupid, racist decisions by dumb-butt Zimmerman, self-appointed, real American hero.

Dear stupid Conservatives, black kids walking down your street are not worthy of a call to the police. And to expect deference from them when confronted by you is an absurd expectation. They will stand their ground against you.

Trayvon Martin didn't need to attack him either. That's what led to his death.

Well no.

Even if you buy Zimmerman's multiple fairy tales..

He would have been wrong in most of the industrialized world and the many states in the US with rational self defense and gun laws.

 

[velvtacheeze]

I don't want to confuse you with the actual facts, but Zimmerman got out of the car because he lost sight of him in the rain. He got out to see where he was, not to confront him. Then he was attacked and thrown to the ground and had his head pounded into the ground. The only witness saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman. But you go on believing whatever fairytale helps you sleep at night.

He didn't need to get out of the car. He didn't need to call the police. That's the point that critics of Zimmerman are trying to make. The right looks at this case and sees nothing wrong with the call to the cops at all, the left sees it as the first among many stupid, racist decisions by dumb-butt Zimmerman, self-appointed, real American hero.

Dear stupid Conservatives, black kids walking down your street are not worthy of a call to the police. And to expect deference from them when confronted by you is an absurd expectation. They will stand their ground against you.

Trayvon Martin didn't need to attack him either. That's what led to his death.

Yes, he did. He was being followed by an armed man. He had a right to protect himself from Zimmerman's aggression.

 

[Sunshine]

If 30 year-old community college student George Zimmerman didn't have a gun, he wouldn't have had the guts to get out of his car to roly-poly his way through the neighborhood after the "f______ punks" that dare walk by him without him recognizing them. Who do they think they are, these "a__holes", who "get away" from George Zimmerman, self-appointed American hero?

I don't want to confuse you with the actual facts, but Zimmerman got out of the car because he lost sight of him in the rain. He got out to see where he was, not to confront him. Then he was attacked and thrown to the ground and had his head pounded into the ground. The only witness saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman. But you go on believing whatever fairytale helps you sleep at night.

He didn't need to get out of the car. He didn't need to call the police. That's the point that critics of Zimmerman are trying to make. The right looks at this case and sees nothing wrong with the call to the cops at all, the left sees it as the first among many stupid, racist decisions by dumb-butt Zimmerman, self-appointed, real American hero.

Dear stupid Conservatives, black kids walking down your street are not worthy of a call to the police. And to expect deference from them when confronted by you is an absurd expectation. They will stand their ground against you.

If Trayvon's folks had shook hands and forgotten it the night he was conceived none of this would have happened.

 

[Defiant1]

If 30 year-old community college student George Zimmerman didn't have a gun, he wouldn't have had the guts to get out of his car to roly-poly his way through the neighborhood after the "f______ punks" that dare walk by him without him recognizing them. Who do they think they are, these "a__holes", who "get away" from George Zimmerman, self-appointed American hero?

I don't want to confuse you with the actual facts, but Zimmerman got out of the car because he lost sight of him in the rain. He got out to see where he was, not to confront him. Then he was attacked and thrown to the ground and had his head pounded into the ground. The only witness saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman. But you go on believing whatever fairytale helps you sleep at night.

He didn't need to get out of the car. He didn't need to call the police. That's the point that critics of Zimmerman are trying to make. The right looks at this case and sees nothing wrong with the call to the cops at all, the left sees it as the first among many stupid, racist decisions by dumb-butt Zimmerman, self-appointed, real American hero.

Dear stupid Conservatives, black kids walking down your street are not worthy of a call to the police. And to expect deference from them when confronted by you is an absurd expectation. They will stand their ground against you.

Whether George Zimmerman needed or didn't need to do something is none of your business.

 

[dilloduck]

I don't want to confuse you with the actual facts, but Zimmerman got out of the car because he lost sight of him in the rain. He got out to see where he was, not to confront him. Then he was attacked and thrown to the ground and had his head pounded into the ground. The only witness saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman. But you go on believing whatever fairytale helps you sleep at night.

He didn't need to get out of the car. He didn't need to call the police. That's the point that critics of Zimmerman are trying to make. The right looks at this case and sees nothing wrong with the call to the cops at all, the left sees it as the first among many stupid, racist decisions by dumb-butt Zimmerman, self-appointed, real American hero.

Dear stupid Conservatives, black kids walking down your street are not worthy of a call to the police. And to expect deference from them when confronted by you is an absurd expectation. They will stand their ground against you.

Absolutely.

But the call really should have been the beginning and end to it.

That was bad enough.

Sure----take the entire incident out of context and then present it. It's only a lie of omission.
When people take oaths they promise to tell the WHOLE truth. Something certain people can't do here.

 

[Katzndogz]

Zimmerman was guilty of manslaughter. The idiot ladies of the jury made a mistake. A bunch of racist middle aged old bags who think Zimmerman was the victim because he was the non-black.

Zimmerman was not guilty of manslaughter and today he is not guilty of manslaughter as a matter of law. As a fact.

If the prosecution wanted a conviction instead of wanted to make black people happy, they would have charged him with aggravated assault and battery.

 

[Edgetho]

If 30 year-old community college student George Zimmerman didn't have a gun, he wouldn't have had the guts to get out of his car to roly-poly his way through the neighborhood after the "f______ punks" that dare walk by him without him recognizing them. Who do they think they are, these "a__holes", who "get away" from George Zimmerman, self-appointed American hero?

I don't want to confuse you with the actual facts, but Zimmerman got out of the car because he lost sight of him in the rain. He got out to see where he was, not to confront him. Then he was attacked and thrown to the ground and had his head pounded into the ground. The only witness saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman. But you go on believing whatever fairytale helps you sleep at night.

He didn't need to get out of the car. He didn't need to call the police. That's the point that critics of Zimmerman are trying to make. The right looks at this case and sees nothing wrong with the call to the cops at all, the left sees it as the first among many stupid, racist decisions by dumb-butt Zimmerman, self-appointed, real American hero.

Dear stupid Conservatives, black kids walking down your street are not worthy of a call to the police. And to expect deference from them when confronted by you is an absurd expectation. They will stand their ground against you.

How'd that work out for St Skittles?

Genius

 

[Edgetho]

Zimmerman was guilty of manslaughter. The idiot ladies of the jury made a mistake. A bunch of racist middle aged old bags who think Zimmerman was the victim because he was the non-black.

Zimmerman was not guilty of manslaughter and today he is not guilty of manslaughter as a matter of law. As a fact.

If the prosecution wanted a conviction instead of wanted to make black people happy, they would have charged him with aggravated assault and battery.

They would have lost on that charge, too.

 

[velvtacheeze]

Trayvon Martin didn't need to attack him either. That's what led to his death.

Yes, he did. He was being followed by an armed man. He had a right to protect himself from Zimmerman's aggression.

Show evidence that he was being followed at the time of the attack?
Did he know Zimmerman was armed?

The evidence is Zimmerman not being in his car. He got out in order to look for Martin. Doy.

The jury made a mistake in not convicting for manslaughter. Legal experts are starting to agree on this.

 

[Nova78]

Probably not.

Zimmerman managed to stay alive for quite some time.

Cops were there 15 seconds after Martin was shot.

Pretty sure, however, Martin would have spent the night in Jail..and Zimmerman would have gotten a bandaid for his boo boos and a lollypop.

When a person is getting their skull smashed into the ground, it's a bit difficult to anticipate when the cops might show up to save you.

he was so hurt that he did not even go to a hospital and he just got a band aid and went home lol

I've seen more cuts of 5 year olds falling off a jungle gym.

The only facts we know is that he profiled martin and followed him which instigated the situation.

Retard

 

[velvtacheeze]

I don't want to confuse you with the actual facts, but Zimmerman got out of the car because he lost sight of him in the rain. He got out to see where he was, not to confront him. Then he was attacked and thrown to the ground and had his head pounded into the ground. The only witness saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman. But you go on believing whatever fairytale helps you sleep at night.

He didn't need to get out of the car. He didn't need to call the police. That's the point that critics of Zimmerman are trying to make. The right looks at this case and sees nothing wrong with the call to the cops at all, the left sees it as the first among many stupid, racist decisions by dumb-butt Zimmerman, self-appointed, real American hero.

Dear stupid Conservatives, black kids walking down your street are not worthy of a call to the police. And to expect deference from them when confronted by you is an absurd expectation. They will stand their ground against you.

Whether George Zimmerman needed or didn't need to do something is none of your business.

When the police are called, and those resources wasted, on a black kid for walking down the street, that's my business.