The Under- and Over-Estimated Jimmy Carter, RIP

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Many of us saw this in him when he was on the national political scene.

In reality, he wasn't a nice man behind the scenes.


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I generally disdain speaking ill of the recently departed, and there are some aspects of real genius to the Carter story, especially his insight into how an obscure figure could rise fast and win the presidency out of the ashes of Watergate in 1976. And we can expect a flood of encomiums in the days ahead about how Carter was an unappreciated president, and above all that he was America's greatest ex-president.

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Jimmy Carter is often considered a relic of the 1970s, a forlorn decade whose iconography, from rounded typefaces to disco music (but thankfully not the leisure suits), are coming back into vogue. Perhaps the most memorable 1970s icon was the smiley-face, so it is not surprising that the smiley-face decade produced a smiley-face candidate: Carter's most prominent attribute was a grin toothier than a Cheshire cat. Like the Cheshire cat in Lewis Carroll, what lay behind the grin was mysterious. His chief campaign strategist and later White House chief of staff Hamilton Jordan referred candidly to what he called Carter's "weirdness factor," 50 years before Democrats tried to employ the phrase against J.D. Vance.

In the early stages of Carter's extraordinary campaign for the presidency in 1976, a common response to his candidacy was, "Jimmy who?" In some respects, we are still asking that question today, 50 years after he emerged suddenly on the national stage. He had a Jekyll and Hyde quality unlike almost any other American politician. He is certainly a better person than Bill Clinton; at least Carter only lusted after women in his heart.

Carter presents layer upon layer of difficulty to untangle. Carter's one-time speechwriter Patrick Anderson observed that in Carter's hometown of Plains, Georgia, neighbors said of him that after an hour you love him, after a week you hate him, and after ten years you start to understand him. (Anderson added that anyone who didn't have a personality conflict with Carter, didn't have a personality.) Anderson also described him as a combination of Machiavelli and Mr. Rogers. The Washington Post's Sally Quinn observed: "The conventional image of a sexy man is one who is hard on the outside and soft on the inside. Carter is just the opposite." Fellow Southern Baptist Bill Moyers said "In a ruthless business, Mr. Carter is a ruthless operator, even if he wears his broad smile and displays his southern charm." Part of the mystique of Carter was his careful and successful positioning as someone "above politics." He gave off an air that he is too good for us, or certainly better than the rest of his peers in politics. Carter exemplified the paradox of taking pride in denouncing the sin of pride. He also displays a talent for combining self-pity and self-righteousness, sometimes in the same sentence.

He was a maddeningly contradictory figure. He first achieved statewide office in Georgia with a cynical race-baiting campaign, and then immediately proclaimed that the time had come for the South to repudiate its racist ways. An avatar of morality and truthfulness, Carter bent the truth and had a singularly nasty side to his character that ultimately helped cost him the presidency in 1980. David Brinkley observed of Carter: "Despite his intelligence, he had a vindictive streak, a mean streak, that surfaced frequently and antagonized people." Eleanor Randolph of the Chicago Tribune wrote: "Carter likes to carve up an opponent, make his friends laugh at him and then call it a joke. . . [He] stretched the truth to the point where it becomes dishonest to call it exaggeration." New York Times reporter James Wooten called Carter "a hyperbole addict." And Gary Fink, author of a generally favorable study of Carter's governorship, notes that "Carter usually claimed the moral and ethical high ground" but "practiced a style of politics based on exaggeration, disingenuousness, and at times outright deception." Carter seldom if ever repented of his nastiness or asks forgiveness. Instead, when called out for an egregious personal attack, Carter displayed the advanced skills of evasion that made him such an effective presidential candidate, at least until the public caught on in 1980.

The man with the legendary smile could be unfriendly and cold. "There were no private smiles," said one disgruntled campaign aide in 1976. His personal White House secretary, Susan Clough, recalled that Carter rarely said hello to her as he walked by her desk. Not a "Happy Thanksgiving," or a "Merry Christmas." Nothing, she says. Arthur Schlesinger Jr. judged Carter to be a "narcissistic loner." "Carter was never a regular guy," Patrick Anderson observed; "the sum of his parts never quite added up to that. . . Carter talked his way into the presidency, yet in some profound way he never learned the language of men."

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Many of us saw this in him when he was on the national political scene.

In reality, he wasn't a nice man behind the scenes.


...
I generally disdain speaking ill of the recently departed, and there are some aspects of real genius to the Carter story, especially his insight into how an obscure figure could rise fast and win the presidency out of the ashes of Watergate in 1976. And we can expect a flood of encomiums in the days ahead about how Carter was an unappreciated president, and above all that he was America's greatest ex-president.
...
Jimmy Carter is often considered a relic of the 1970s, a forlorn decade whose iconography, from rounded typefaces to disco music (but thankfully not the leisure suits), are coming back into vogue. Perhaps the most memorable 1970s icon was the smiley-face, so it is not surprising that the smiley-face decade produced a smiley-face candidate: Carter's most prominent attribute was a grin toothier than a Cheshire cat. Like the Cheshire cat in Lewis Carroll, what lay behind the grin was mysterious. His chief campaign strategist and later White House chief of staff Hamilton Jordan referred candidly to what he called Carter's "weirdness factor," 50 years before Democrats tried to employ the phrase against J.D. Vance.
In the early stages of Carter's extraordinary campaign for the presidency in 1976, a common response to his candidacy was, "Jimmy who?" In some respects, we are still asking that question today, 50 years after he emerged suddenly on the national stage. He had a Jekyll and Hyde quality unlike almost any other American politician. He is certainly a better person than Bill Clinton; at least Carter only lusted after women in his heart.
Carter presents layer upon layer of difficulty to untangle. Carter's one-time speechwriter Patrick Anderson observed that in Carter's hometown of Plains, Georgia, neighbors said of him that after an hour you love him, after a week you hate him, and after ten years you start to understand him. (Anderson added that anyone who didn't have a personality conflict with Carter, didn't have a personality.) Anderson also described him as a combination of Machiavelli and Mr. Rogers. The Washington Post's Sally Quinn observed: "The conventional image of a sexy man is one who is hard on the outside and soft on the inside. Carter is just the opposite." Fellow Southern Baptist Bill Moyers said "In a ruthless business, Mr. Carter is a ruthless operator, even if he wears his broad smile and displays his southern charm." Part of the mystique of Carter was his careful and successful positioning as someone "above politics." He gave off an air that he is too good for us, or certainly better than the rest of his peers in politics. Carter exemplified the paradox of taking pride in denouncing the sin of pride. He also displays a talent for combining self-pity and self-righteousness, sometimes in the same sentence.
He was a maddeningly contradictory figure. He first achieved statewide office in Georgia with a cynical race-baiting campaign, and then immediately proclaimed that the time had come for the South to repudiate its racist ways. An avatar of morality and truthfulness, Carter bent the truth and had a singularly nasty side to his character that ultimately helped cost him the presidency in 1980. David Brinkley observed of Carter: "Despite his intelligence, he had a vindictive streak, a mean streak, that surfaced frequently and antagonized people." Eleanor Randolph of the Chicago Tribune wrote: "Carter likes to carve up an opponent, make his friends laugh at him and then call it a joke. . . [He] stretched the truth to the point where it becomes dishonest to call it exaggeration." New York Times reporter James Wooten called Carter "a hyperbole addict." And Gary Fink, author of a generally favorable study of Carter's governorship, notes that "Carter usually claimed the moral and ethical high ground" but "practiced a style of politics based on exaggeration, disingenuousness, and at times outright deception." Carter seldom if ever repented of his nastiness or asks forgiveness. Instead, when called out for an egregious personal attack, Carter displayed the advanced skills of evasion that made him such an effective presidential candidate, at least until the public caught on in 1980.
The man with the legendary smile could be unfriendly and cold. "There were no private smiles," said one disgruntled campaign aide in 1976. His personal White House secretary, Susan Clough, recalled that Carter rarely said hello to her as he walked by her desk. Not a "Happy Thanksgiving," or a "Merry Christmas." Nothing, she says. Arthur Schlesinger Jr. judged Carter to be a "narcissistic loner." "Carter was never a regular guy," Patrick Anderson observed; "the sum of his parts never quite added up to that. . . Carter talked his way into the presidency, yet in some profound way he never learned the language of men."
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Carter will be remembered more fondly and with more respect that the guy who's coming in next. And that probably burns the living shit out him. :auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg:
 
Trump will never be considered at all in comparison to Carter, except in negative terms.
 
Also from the link in the OP:


This aspect of Carter’s character cannot be unraveled without looking deeply into the self-proclaimed sources of his political thought, and especially his political religion. There was an alarming superficiality to his political religion that journalists and biographers noticed but did not analyze with sufficient seriousness. Biographer Kenneth Morris wrote that “when he became governor and then president, Carter continued to show himself bereft of a solid intellectual foundation for his political views.”

Betty Glad reached a similar conclusion: “He lacks, it seems, a well-thought-out conceptual framework to guide his concrete political choices. . . Carter’s political views rest on a simplistic moralism.” Some of Carter’s critics thought he was a religious charlatan.

Reg Murphy, editor of the Atlanta Constitution during Carter’s years as governor, called Carter “one of the three or four phoniest men I ever met.”
 
When you are truthful, send up a flare.
Carter will be remembered fondly. The victim of bad decisions by his predecessors, a few select bad decisions made by him, and just some all around economic disasters that he had little control over.
In 100 years, Carter will be remembered well.....your boy?....not so well. :)

That's truth. I'm sorry you don't deal in the truth.
 
Brother Billy might have done a better job. I still have one of his beer cans.
 
Carter will be remembered fondly. The victim of bad decisions by his predecessors, a few select bad decisions made by him, and just some all around economic disasters that he had little control over.
In 100 years, Carter will be remembered well.....your boy?....not so well. :)

That's truth. I'm sorry you don't deal in the truth.


Carter was an awful President, and the OP shows what a phony he was.

No, only leftoids will pretend to remember him fondly.
 
Carter was an awful President, and the OP shows what a phony he was.

No, only leftoids will pretend to remember him fondly.
He gets the bad press of having bad things happen on his watch....and the knock of not having a clear and firm grasp of policy direction.
That doesn't make him an "awful" President. Toward the bottom of the pack..yes. But not at the bottom.
 
He gets the bad press of having bad things happen on his watch....and the knock of not having a clear and firm grasp of policy direction.
That doesn't make him an "awful" President. Toward the bottom of the pack..yes. But not at the bottom.


He was awful. He embraced terrorists.
 
We live in a classist society that shields up/down behind right/left where any potus is no more than the mouthpiece for

This takes finesse.......

Cater was good, but no where near as good as Reagan at it

~S~
 
Carter will be remembered more fondly and with more respect that the guy who's coming in next. And that probably burns the living shit out him. :auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg:
The guy coming in next is for a second term after losing in between. How often has that been accomplished? I give Carter his respect he deserved. Trump paid his respect to Carter as well. Move On.
 
The first thing on newly elected Jimmie Carter's agenda was to issue a blanket pardon to every draft dodging coward who renounced his citizenship and fled to Canada to avoid the draft.
 
Jimmy Carter was not a "good man, but a poor president." His character flaws caused the flaws in his presidency.

While the economy crumpbled under his watch, the micro-managing SOB personally approved the schedule of the WH tennis court. He had a mental breakdown after losing his re-election bid for governor of Georgia, yet the Dems thought he would be a good president.

His handling of the hostage crises showed his true colors and pulled down the facade of the religous peanut farm with a doctorate in nu-cu-lar physics. He lusted in his heart after women not his wife, but he lusted more for, and more to the point, coveted the presidency.

He used the hostages to save his primary run which he was about to lose to a man who was essentially a melting wax figure of John F. Kennedy. He tried to use them to beat Reagan. Reagan would have won anyway, but the one year anniversary of the hostage taking so close to election day, ensured the most well-deserved humiliating landslide in presidential election history.
 
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